Mid-Majority Legacy Programs - Lamar

[TexasTerror]

Just got a tweet that you guys are #72 as far as the "Legacy Countdown" on Mid-Majority. Think this does with mid-major programs who have historically done well in the NCAAs...

http://www.midmajority.com/tmm100

[UNLV]

What ranking is SHSU?

[TexasTerror]

[quote name="UNLV" post="828490" timestamp="1282400082"]What ranking is SHSU?[/quote]

They only did a top 100 and are counting their way down...so SHSU could still be ranked.

After second look, they are doing this based off the last SIX years. If that is the case, SHSU should be ranked pretty strongly based on our winning percentage, 20-win seasons and conference statistical leaders...

Would think SHSU would potentially be the highest-ranked...

FYI - CollegeHoopsNet has SHSU as the #2 team in the SLC this year in their top 144 countdown. Last year may have been the first year in which the SLC had two teams in what I recall and glad to say we will this year too.

[AggiesAreWe]

Since when is a legacy counted only in 6 years? ::)


Maybe it should read "Recent History". Legacy kind of sends the wrong message.

[TexasTerror]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="828521" timestamp="1282405660"]Since when is a legacy counted only in 6 years? ::)

Maybe it should read "Recent History". Legacy kind of sends the wrong message.
[/quote]

MidMajority.com has only been around for the length of their analysis. The term "mid-major" is actually very new and does not have a true lengthy "legacy" to it.

Any idea when that term came into being?

[AggiesAreWe]

If my memory serves me correct (disclaimer, I am 46 years old ;D), the term "Mid-Major" was started by ESPN in the mid 90's, say around '94.

I remember this because Lamar was in the American South Conference I believe, and "Mid-Major" was being tossed around alot back then.


I am really not sure, had a few beers since the mid '90's. ;)

[TexasTerror]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="828527" timestamp="1282406710"]I am really not sure, had a few beers since the mid '90's. ;)[/quote]

While I'm asking - when did 'walk off' come into major use in baseball? Seems like it's been the last 5-10 years..

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="TexasTerror" post="828540" timestamp="1282408236"]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=71883.msg828527#msg828527 date=1282406710]I am really not sure, had a few beers since the mid '90's. ;)[/quote]

While I'm asking - when did 'walk off' come into major use in baseball? Seems like it's been the last 5-10 years..
[/quote]


I would consider the term "walk off" a more recent term. Probably since 2000.

I know I played college baseball back in the '80's and never heard the term.

[CardAmbassador]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="828543" timestamp="1282408502"]
[quote author=TexasTerror link=topic=71883.msg828540#msg828540 date=1282408236]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=71883.msg828527#msg828527 date=1282406710]I am really not sure, had a few beers since the mid '90's. ;)[/quote]

While I'm asking - when did 'walk off' come into major use in baseball? Seems like it's been the last 5-10 years..
[/quote]


I would consider the term "walk off" a more recent term. Probably since 2000.

I know I played college baseball back in the '80's and never heard the term.
[/quote]

What team did you play for? Just curious.

[TexasTerror]

Another SLC team...

Lamar #72
Northwestern State #66

[TexasTerror]

Add SFA... that's two teams higher than Lamar with SHSU likely to join.

Lamar #72
Northwestern State #66
SFA #61

[coachacola]

[quote name="TexasTerror" post="828525" timestamp="1282406360"]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=71883.msg828521#msg828521 date=1282405660]Since when is a legacy counted only in 6 years? ::)

Maybe it should read "Recent History". Legacy kind of sends the wrong message.
[/quote]

MidMajority.com has only been around for the length of their analysis. The term "mid-major" is actually very new and does not have a true lengthy "legacy" to it.

Any idea when that term came into being?
[/quote]

According to Wikepedia:

[quote]Mid-major is a term used in American Division I  college sports. While many believe the term "mid-major" was originally coined by the sports media in order to distinguish between BCS  and non-BCS conference teams, it was actually coined in 1977 (more than two decades before the development of the BCS) by Jack Kvancz, head coach of Catholic University's mens basketball team.[/quote]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-major

[NorthoftheBorder]

In 10 years this will change radically.  LU will either move up significantly or be a FBS school by then.

[TexasTerror]

[quote name="NorthoftheBorder" post="836342" timestamp="1283355773"]In 10 years this will change radically.  LU will either move up significantly or be a FBS school by then.[/quote]

The Sun Belt and MAC are considered mid-majors as are in some cases, C-USA and the WAC. You'll still be a mid-major.

[bigred360]

[quote name="TexasTerror" post="836446" timestamp="1283364251"]
[quote author=NorthoftheBorder link=topic=71883.msg836342#msg836342 date=1283355773]In 10 years this will change radically.  LU will either move up significantly or be a FBS school by then.[/quote]

The Sun Belt and MAC are considered mid-majors as are in some cases, C-USA and the WAC. You'll still be a mid-major.
[/quote]

But, we'll be in a FBS conference so mid-major isn't a bad thing in my opinion.  Actually, most people in the athletic community say the SLC is a low-major conference.

[TexasTerror]

Probably one more SLC team to come - SHSU! ;)

Lamar #72
Northwestern State #66
SFA #61
Texas A&M-CC #44

[bigred360]

Dude, no one really cares about this topic as you can see by the replies. The last post before yours was Sept. 1st.  ::)

[westendfirst]

[quote name="TexasTerror" post="836310" timestamp="1283351159"]
Add SFA... that's two teams higher than Lamar with SHSU likely to join.

Lamar #72
Northwestern State #66
SFA #61
[/quote]

Based on the past six years, I am shocked we are even ranked.

[TexasTerror]

[quote name="westendfirst" post="850316" timestamp="1284834501"]Based on the past six years, I am shocked we are even ranked.[/quote]

Remember - you guys have had some success when playing in the SLC East.

[westendfirst]

[quote name="TexasTerror" post="850743" timestamp="1284860322"]
[quote author=westendfirst link=topic=71883.msg850316#msg850316 date=1284834501]Based on the past six years, I am shocked we are even ranked.[/quote]

Remember - you guys have had some success when playing in the SLC East.
[/quote]

I suppose.  Maybe I expect too much.

[NorthoftheBorder]

[quote name="TexasTerror" post="850743" timestamp="1284860322"]
[quote author=westendfirst link=topic=71883.msg850316#msg850316 date=1284834501]Based on the past six years, I am shocked we are even ranked.[/quote]

Remember - you guys have had some success when playing in the SLC East.
[/quote]

I think we will have a lot of success against "west division" football teams, especially Oct 2nd!

[TexasTerror]

[quote name="NorthoftheBorder" post="851826" timestamp="1284953557"]I think we will have a lot of success against "west division" football teams, especially Oct 2nd![/quote]

Wouldn't surprise me...

Unless the SHSU defense shows me otherwise between now and then, I'm predicting Bevil at 375 yards and Hayes at 150.

[TexasTerror]

The top team, by far and away... SHSU

SLC Schools
72. Lamar (38 points)
66. Northwestern State (42 points)
61. Stephen F. Austin (45 points)
44. Texas A&M-CC (51 points)
29. Sam Houston State (67 points)

[coachacola]

[quote name="TexasTerror" post="864849" timestamp="1286114037"]
The top team, by far and away... SHSU

SLC Schools
72. Lamar (38 points)
66. Northwestern State (42 points)
61. Stephen F. Austin (45 points)
44. Texas A&M-CC (51 points)
29. Sam Houston State (67 points)
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Which is why the SLC is considered a low-major these days in basketball.