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[b]JBDfan[/b]:  You can analyze any game any way you want, bottom line their were missed calls on both teams like any game.  How about the pass interference call that kept Jasper in the game??  There were many missed opportunities for both.  Tensions were high for both teams because of the high scoring and Lumberton comeback.  Lumberton played very well against a very fast and physical  Jasper team.  They should do well in their district barring anymore injuries.  

[b]Raider Oldtimer[/b]:  Coach Credeur had many of his 2nd string players in on the last series including the backup QB and a 5'2 RB, please don't stir the pot and make bad assumptions and even worse comments.  Credeur was not "punishing" anyone, that's an absurd assumption.  I think you're the one who said Hughes should [u][b]not[/b][/u] be a QB, so I rest my case.  
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[quote name="Domination Station" post="833042" timestamp="1282997796"]
[b]JBDfan[/b]:  You can analyze any game any way you want, bottom line their were missed calls on both teams like any game.  How about the pass interference call that kept Jasper in the game??  There were many missed opportunities for both.  Tensions were high for both teams because of the high scoring and Lumberton comeback.  Lumberton played very well against a very fast and physical  Jasper team.  They should do well in their district barring anymore injuries.  

[b]Raider Oldtimer[/b]:  Coach Credeur had many of his 2nd string players in on the last series including the backup QB and a 5'2 RB, please don't stir the pot and make bad assumptions and even worse comments.  Credeur was not "punishing" anyone, that's an absurd assumption.  I think you're the one who said Hughes should [u][b]not[/b][/u] be a QB, so I rest my case.  
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Absolutely agree that there are normally always missed calls both ways and that Lumberton played very well, especially as the game went on.
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[quote name="LTrain" post="832977" timestamp="1282974940"]
yuo can look at that hit any way you want man but it was c/s hit 15 yds behind the runner   >:(
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I clearly stated the hit was inappropriate and it is uncalled for. I was just saying that nobody knows that the kid delivering the hit meant it for harm. It was stupid, I agree.
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From what I saw last night as a Jasper Bulldog Fan im ok with it cause there is a big up side for jasper you can only get better it was a good test for the Bulldogs of Jasper. The running game put in work last night we need a little more spread in the game plan and the DB have to get better and they will so by the time Dist. comes around they will be ready. Jasper is loaded for the next 3 to 4 years!!!
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raideroldtimer, go back and think about the way things were before Creadur. I promise you that coaching staff knows better than you on how to coach that team
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I talked to #45 after game. Dr. says torn ACL. Kid is just sick - says "I will be back. I will be back." Pray for healing. I truly hope the player that hit him didn't do so with ill intent.
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[quote name="Jbdfan" post="833050" timestamp="1283001594"]
[quote author=Domination Station link=topic=71996.msg833042#msg833042 date=1282997796]
[b]JBDfan[/b]:  You can analyze any game any way you want, bottom line their were missed calls on both teams like any game.  How about the pass interference call that kept Jasper in the game??  There were many missed opportunities for both.  Tensions were high for both teams because of the high scoring and Lumberton comeback.  Lumberton played very well against a very fast and physical  Jasper team.  They should do well in their district barring anymore injuries.  

[b]Raider Oldtimer[/b]:  Coach Credeur had many of his 2nd string players in on the last series including the backup QB and a 5'2 RB, please don't stir the pot and make bad assumptions and even worse comments.  Credeur was not "punishing" anyone, that's an absurd assumption.  I think you're the one who said Hughes should [u][b]not[/b][/u] be a QB, so I rest my case.  
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Absolutely agree that there are normally always missed calls both ways and that Lumberton played very well, especially as the game went on.
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Ease up guys, I know Coach Creduer wasn't punishing them, just kidding around. Coach C has way too much integrity for that, I mean how many times have you guys seen a coach go out on the field and send a player off for an unsportsmanlike penalty, I've never seen it. I even told a buddy of mine once we had 42 points that unless Jasper scored again the coach would start playing conservative ball because he doesn't run scores up on the opponents, of course surprisingly enough we had two series where we broke away and scored, but the plays themselves were grind it out type plays. Coach C in my opinion is the best and most classy coach Lumberton has ever had and, yes I'm showing favoritism, I believe he is currently the best coach in the area. Of course I know everyone on here is going to make a case for their coach and go ahead, but I think Lumberton is satisfied with who WE have.
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Wow, I hope the Dr is wrong but you could see how much pain the kid was in. I was wondering about the unsportsmanlike conduct call was for. It looked like jaspers #10 told the official something and then he threw the flag and called the penalty against Lumberton. Had to be bad for coach to go all the way on the field and pull the player out of the huddle.
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The last time lumberton beat jasper was 1985 in a pouring rain storm.  The score was 7-6.  IMO the difference in tonights game was coaching or the lack their of, no disrespect to lumberton (alot of x-bulldogs live in lumberton now) but if you lose to lumberton and we were bigger and faster and more athletic its time for this group of coaches to look for a new career....
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#10 on Jasper had been talking about one of Lumberton players all night and #40 (that coach c) took out had enough and said something back to number #40. I was sitting with #40's parents at the game and I asked his mom last night after the game and that is what he told her.
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[quote name="ST413" post="833149" timestamp="1283009610"]
Wow, I hope the Dr is wrong but you could see how much pain the kid was in. I was wondering about the unsportsmanlike conduct call was for. It looked like jaspers #10 told the official something and then he threw the flag and called the penalty against Lumberton. Had to be bad for coach to go all the way on the field and pull the player out of the huddle.
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I don't know what that kid did but the coach who came out on the field asked him "Have you lost your mind?" Then he told him to go to the bench. I heard it standing on the Jasper sideline.
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[quote name="Jbdfan" post="832967" timestamp="1282974232"]
A few things. Lumberton and Jasper both played hard. Jasper is young and that showed. Lumberton is fortunate that Jasper made some "young" mistakes. Jasper is very talented, but needs the coaches to improve there schemes and crispness. I think Jasper could be very good with alterations to this offense that Bickham is set on running.

The hit on the kickoff was a penalty and called one. It was not good, but I do not believe it was with ill intent. The coaches do need to address this with these kids. That one especially and I pray that the injured recovers quickly. These things happen even when they shouldn't or didnt have to.

Two penalties should have been called on Lumberton touchdowns. Tripping behind the runner none the less on one that was in the broad open and was obvious and in the late part of the game one of the line men had the left arm and jersey of one of Jasper's LB's that was reaching out to make the tackle. That is part of the game as well, but they should get the obvious ones and those were two of them.



Fumbles and mistakes hurt Jasper. Lumberton took advantage. Both teams should fair well. Jasper may do better in their district than Lumberton just from seeing them tonight. Speed can hurt Lumberton. Passing can hurt Jasper.


Good luck to both. It is just the first game.

   
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You are a real good Bulldog fan.  All you saw was how talented Jasper is, Lumberton has no talent, and all the "gift" plays Lumberton got that enabled them to beat a superior Jasper team.  Pretty good analagy for a team that got pasted.
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[quote name="T-daddy" post="833172" timestamp="1283011316"]
The last time lumberton beat jasper was 1985 in a pouring rain storm.  The score was 7-6.  IMO the difference in tonights game was coaching or the lack their of, no disrespect to lumberton (alot of x-bulldogs live in lumberton now) but if you lose to lumberton and we were bigger and faster and more athletic its time for this group of coaches to look for a new career....
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No I think you just got beat by a better team!
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[quote name="jordibug15" post="833179" timestamp="1283011804"]
#10 on Jasper had been talking about one of Lumberton players all night and #40 (that coach c) took out had enough and said something back to number #40. I was sitting with #40's parents at the game and I asked his mom last night after the game and that is what he told her.
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#40 (and I know the young man well) made a huge mental error.  You simply can not let the other guy in your head.  As a result, his behavior on the field cost the team dearly. Coach C made the proper decision and I hope the young man learns from it.  I expect on film day he will be reminded of this...
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[quote name="T-daddy" post="833172" timestamp="1283011316"]
The last time lumberton beat jasper was 1985 in a pouring rain storm.  The score was 7-6.  IMO the difference in tonights game was coaching or the lack their of, no disrespect to lumberton (alot of x-bulldogs live in lumberton now) but if you lose to lumberton and we were bigger and faster and more athletic its time for this group of coaches to look for a new career....
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Execution and adaptation are keys to winning. Lumberton refused to lay down and adapted to Jasper's offense well after the 1st quarter. 

The Dogs lost their fire and never really got it back.  They young men have size and speed and it will show come district play.  I love the "cram it down their throats" approach.  I expect they will have an excellent year if they stay motivated.
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[quote name="NorthoftheBorder" post="833220" timestamp="1283014278"]
[quote author=Jbdfan link=topic=71996.msg832967#msg832967 date=1282974232]
A few things. Lumberton and Jasper both played hard. Jasper is young and that showed. Lumberton is fortunate that Jasper made some "young" mistakes. Jasper is very talented, but needs the coaches to improve there schemes and crispness. I think Jasper could be very good with alterations to this offense that Bickham is set on running.

The hit on the kickoff was a penalty and called one. It was not good, but I do not believe it was with ill intent. The coaches do need to address this with these kids. That one especially and I pray that the injured recovers quickly. These things happen even when they shouldn't or didnt have to.

Two penalties should have been called on Lumberton touchdowns. Tripping behind the runner none the less on one that was in the broad open and was obvious and in the late part of the game one of the line men had the left arm and jersey of one of Jasper's LB's that was reaching out to make the tackle. That is part of the game as well, but they should get the obvious ones and those were two of them.



Fumbles and mistakes hurt Jasper. Lumberton took advantage. Both teams should fair well. Jasper may do better in their district than Lumberton just from seeing them tonight. Speed can hurt Lumberton. Passing can hurt Jasper.


Good luck to both. It is just the first game.

   
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You are a real good Bulldog fan.  All you saw was how talented Jasper is, Lumberton has no talent, and all the "gift" plays Lumberton got that enabled them to beat a superior Jasper team.  Pretty good analagy for a team that got pasted.
[/quote]your team played good let it go and get ready for next week dont strat thinking lumberton is a power house you were a door mate for jasper for many many year come on get real good win for yall there is many more to be played dont it's about time yall beat been a long time
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[quote name="WTB" post="833078" timestamp="1283004488"]
raideroldtimer, go back and think about the way things were before Creadur. I promise you that coaching staff knows better than you on how to coach that team
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Lumberton definitely was well coached and won the coaching battle. That is a large part of why the score was like it was.
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[quote name="Jbdfan" post="833316" timestamp="1283020908"]
[quote author=WTB link=topic=71996.msg833078#msg833078 date=1283004488]
raideroldtimer, go back and think about the way things were before Creadur. I promise you that coaching staff knows better than you on how to coach that team
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Lumberton definitely was well coached and won the coaching battle. That is a large part of why the score was like it was.
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I second this.

I'm a little embarrassed by some of the comments. We lost a preseason game to a good 4a program. Let's see if we can learn from defeat and improve next week.
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well folks i was'nt gonna get on here but after reading all these comments lets just say the devil made me do it!!! I read a few about how Jasper did this and that over 20 yrs ago and I was there most of them probably were'nt even born all I can say is welcome to 4A boys havin fun YET!!!
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[quote name="WTB" post="833336" timestamp="1283022585"]
Land95- just to let you know we are currently in the year 2010. Not 5,10,15 or 20 years ago. No one cares who you beat in 1978
[/quote]Yea ok  ;D :D ;) :)
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