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[quote name="tappedout" post="845747" timestamp="1284335467"]
Who really care's who had more fan's? Did we win the game? No! We didn't lose because they had more or less people in the stand's. This sound's like a 3rd grade pissing match. Move on!
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Two of the things that this community cherishes above nearly everything else are its ability to put fans in the stands and its unmatched support of PN-G students.

In other words, many people care.
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Nice home cooking there. Two phantom pass interference calls to put them in field goal range. On one the WR ran out of bounds without being touched and still got the call. Oh well. On to district.
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Those were make ups for the safety that wasn't......
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Maybe so but I have to throw some excuses out to stir the pot.  ;)
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Nope - all who do that are treated the same - no call for blaming refs as others have this year, like your fellow PNG fans said. I am so tired of hearing about refs losing the games and how it is ok for coaches to go off on them.  TC is our preseaon last place pick, pretty good team.
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Nobody wants to hear your crap.
[/quote]nah aki, stangs is the good one it's fwfriend who throws the dung everywhere.
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Then please forgive me for lumping those two together.......  ;)
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Oh that happens a lot on boards - stereotyping folks. Thanks for the apology!  Raider - you have always been a balanced and  fair poster and we thank you for that.
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I'm sure several people were getting ready for tailgate parties at the LU game. Evidently, the first game in 20 year's for LU was more interesting than driving to TC for some! All of sudden the purple faithful are losing faith. Come on, give it a break and move on!
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Nice home cooking there. Two phantom pass interference calls to put them in field goal range. On one the WR ran out of bounds without being touched and still got the call. Oh well. On to district.
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Those were make ups for the safety that wasn't......
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Maybe so but I have to throw some excuses out to stir the pot.  ;)
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Nope - all who do that are treated the same - no call for blaming refs as others have this year, like your fellow PNG fans said. I am so tired of hearing about refs losing the games and how it is ok for coaches to go off on them.  TC is our preseaon last place pick, pretty good team.
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Nobody wants to hear your crap.
[/quote]nah aki, stangs is the good one it's fwfriend who throws the dung everywhere.
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Then please forgive me for lumping those two together.......  ;)
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Oh that happens a lot on boards - stereotyping folks. Thanks for the apology!  Raider - you have always been a balanced and  fair poster and we thank you for that.
[/quote]LOL, np, I calls dem likes I sees dem............  :P ;)
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[quote name="tappedout" post="845747" timestamp="1284335467"]
Who really care's who had more fan's? Did we win the game? No! We didn't lose because they had more or less people in the stand's. This sound's like a 3rd grade pissing match. Move on!
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Amen ! Someone give this man some positive Karmas.
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As for those that keep wanting to point at the lose of Harmon as an issue or that Bertrand is an issue take a look at the numbers for each after three games this year and last.

Yr                  Carries              Yards            YPC          TD
2009 Harmon        60                361                6.01          4
2010 Bertrand      72                391                5.43          3

Were you giving up on Harmon at this point last year or singing his praises, cause the numbers are pretty comprable?
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[quote name="badndn" post="846446" timestamp="1284400512"]
As for those that keep wanting to point at the lose of Harmon as an issue or that Bertrand is an issue take a look at the numbers for each after three games this year and last.

Yr                   Carries              Yards             YPC           TD
2009 Harmon        60                 361                6.01           4
2010 Bertrand       72                 391                5.43           3

Were you giving up on Harmon at this point last year or singing his praises, cause the numbers are pretty comprable?
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Good info badndn. I'm a big fan of Harmon and now, Bertrand. Two good guys, with a little different running styles.
As a guy in the bleachers, here is my take. Last year, Harmon ran harder, in the sense that his feet never quit until the whistle blew. Bertrand does not run like he is pumping quite as hard, but has a better, more experienced line blowing holes open for him. I don't miss Harmon like I miss Dre Dunbar. There are bigger questions in our defensive secondary than there are in our offensive backfield. I do have faith that our coaches will have solutions and will have the boys ready for district play. Go Indians!
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Agreed.

Also remember that Chase is only a Junior. Remember how much bigger and stronger caleb got between his junior and senior FB seasons. Word is Chase is working with Caleb just as Caleb did with Josh before him. I love that our RB's feed experience down to the next guy. It's like a fraternity. Good Stuff.
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IMO, Harmon's yards came on every play that helped sustain drives.  Bertrand's yards come on big breaks.  BTW, I'm not saying Bertrand isn't good...he is, but to say you dont miss Harmon is crazy.  It's not where he started as represented in this depiction, but I guess where he ended....1700yds is a lot.

1700/12= 141+ yds per game.

According to your numbers, Harmon ran for 155 yds per game over the next 9 games.  What would be interesting though is if you could take away each Bertrands and Harmons 3 biggest runs during their first 3 games.  I bet you would have a much more lopsided stat after that.  
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[quote name="shovelhead" post="846520" timestamp="1284404953"]
[quote author=badndn link=topic=72782.msg846446#msg846446 date=1284400512]
As for those that keep wanting to point at the lose of Harmon as an issue or that Bertrand is an issue take a look at the numbers for each after three games this year and last.

Yr                   Carries              Yards             YPC           TD
2009 Harmon        60                 361                6.01           4
2010 Bertrand       72                 391                5.43           3

Were you giving up on Harmon at this point last year or singing his praises, cause the numbers are pretty comprable?
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Good info badndn. I'm a big fan of Harmon and now, Bertrand. Two good guys, with a little different running styles.
As a guy in the bleachers, here is my take. Last year, Harmon ran harder, in the sense that his feet never quit until the whistle blew. Bertrand does not run like he is pumping quite as hard, but has a better, more experienced line blowing holes open for him. I don't miss Harmon like I miss Dre Dunbar. There are bigger questions in our defensive secondary than there are in our offensive backfield. I do have faith that our coaches will have solutions and will have the boys ready for district play. Go Indians!
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Agree
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i agree with shovelhead dre dunbar is sorely missed right about now, but i also see problems in special teams, along with the problems in the secondary, int s are more plentiful right now, we need to address all these problems now and get ready to roll in district, it all counts now  no excuses only results!!!! i I WANT TO SEE SOME  WINS  LOL
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