The New Asst Coach AT EC- Betrayed, we are waiting

[stevenash]

For you to give us the real inside scoop on how this will affect the EC basketball program.  We anxiously await your commentary.

[HoopInsider_Cooper]

[font=Courier]kenny hoffpauir[/font]

[stevenash]

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[font=Courier]kenny hoffpauir[/font]
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Thank you but I was familiar who the new employee was.  Wanted Betrayed to shed his evaluation/passion on this issue.

[HoopInsider_Cooper]

[font=Courier]My bad! Sorry for thread jacking! [/font]

[Betrayed]

[quote name="stevenash" post="847966" timestamp="1284567073"]
For you to give us the real inside scoop on how this will affect the EC basketball program.  We anxiously await your commentary.
[/quote]IMO, I think the move was made to keep hometown, fan favorite Coach West from coming home...They're gonna beat Kountze and Maybe Anahuac to win district this year. Its gonna seem like the hire was a great hire and it will buy the coach more time there. In about a year or two, when Joubert gets his studs, thats when you will see the hire's affect on the E.C program. Its all Politics dude ;) ;) ;)

[Betrayed]

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[quote author=HoopInsider_Cooper link=topic=73010.msg848358#msg848358 date=1284607335]
[font=Courier]kenny hoffpauir[/font]
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Thank you but I was familiar who the new employee was.  Wanted Betrayed to shed his evaluation/passion on this issue.
[/quote]My question to you is why is Coach Hoffpauir coming back when the district is down? Where was he during the 20+ years of district titles. The district title is E.C's to lose this year. E.C has alot of talent coming up. Those Guillory boys (Darius and Jayce) and company will be making some noise in Winnie Tx. By the way Hawks, those are Kenyon Spears and Bosha 1st cousins and they can hoop ;D 

[Bucof2010]

Don't forget the freshman Guillory and sophomore Roberts

[stevenash]

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[quote author=stevenash link=topic=73010.msg848534#msg848534 date=1284657961]
[quote author=HoopInsider_Cooper link=topic=73010.msg848358#msg848358 date=1284607335]
[font=Courier]kenny hoffpauir[/font]
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Thank you but I was familiar who the new employee was.  Wanted Betrayed to shed his evaluation/passion on this issue.
[/quote]My question to you is why is Coach Hoffpauir coming back when the district is down? Where was he during the 20+ years of district titles. The district title is E.C's to lose this year. E.C has alot of talent coming up. Those Guillory boys (Darius and Jayce) and company will be making some noise in Winnie Tx. By the way Hawks, those are Kenyon Spears and Bosha 1st cousins and they can hoop ;D 
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How is the "4 year plan" going?  Are there any press conferences coming in Hardin County?

[stevenash]

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[quote author=stevenash link=topic=73010.msg847966#msg847966 date=1284567073]
For you to give us the real inside scoop on how this will affect the EC basketball program.  We anxiously await your commentary.
[/quote]IMO, I think the move was made to keep hometown, fan favorite Coach West from coming home...They're gonna beat Kountze and Maybe Anahuac to win district this year. Its gonna seem like the hire was a great hire and it will buy the coach more time there. In about a year or two, when Joubert gets his studs, thats when you will see the hire's affect on the E.C program. Its all Politics dude ;) ;) ;)
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Here's a novel idea.  Get someone to start threatening the EC coach that they are going to talk his players into leaving for another school.  Then start bad mouthing the EC coach and tell him he doesn't know which people to playand that he doesnt know how to help his kids get scholarships.  I have heard that these strategies are really productive and can make a guy pretty popular with the teams involved.

[Betrayed]

Can't say anything bad about E.C... I can say this,  E.C and Kountze coaches has helped more players and sent more players to College after graduating. Only Hj All-State players stay home.

[Lazeek]

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Can't say anything bad about E.C... I can say this,  E.C and Kountze coaches has helped more players and sent more players to College after graduating. Only Hj All-State players stay home.
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Who from EC??????  Only two players I can think of are playing FOOTBALL in college and not Basketball......Thomas at Arkansas and the big white kid at Rice.  Who else????

There are obvious ones at Kountze.....Hancocks, Hall, etc

Last time I checked HJ had all of these kids playing college ball somewhere.........Donahoe, Benard, Durley, etc.

Some kids are just not ready to play at the next level no matter how good they are in high school and some quite frankly do not make the grades to even go to a Junior College.

[AggiesAreWe]

I cannot recall any player from EC of late that has gone on to play basketball at the next level.

[Guest speechless]

of course a good question would be are we talking athletic scholarships only?  lots of coaches help kids get to college through avenues other than athletics...


should we compare hj graduates that played basketball going to college regardless of the avenue vs. the aforementioned schools?  that would be a more fair comparison wouldn't it?

then again, it doesn't do much good if one isn't willing to tell the whole story such as coaches setting up tryouts and players just not showing up to them or players refusing to fill out the necessary paperwork in order to qualify for college or players going to college and not making the grade only to wind up standing along the fence at Friday night football games.....of course, I'm sure I should assume their high school coaches are supposed to go to college with them and make their grades for them....right?

if you want to compare....let's REALLY compare...

[stevenash]

[quote name="speechless" post="854166" timestamp="1285245960"]
of course a good question would be are we talking athletic scholarships only?  lots of coaches help kids get to college through avenues other than athletics...


should we compare hj graduates that played basketball going to college regardless of the avenue vs. the aforementioned schools?  that would be a more fair comparison wouldn't it?

then again, it doesn't do much good if one isn't willing to tell the whole story such as coaches setting up tryouts and players just not showing up to them or players refusing to fill out the necessary paperwork in order to qualify for college or players going to college and not making the grade only to wind up standing along the fence at Friday night football games.....of course, I'm sure I should assume their high school coaches are supposed to go to college with them and make their grades for them....right?

if you want to compare....let's REALLY compare...
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He DOES NOT want to really compare - He wants to bash HJ coaches and will tell half truths  or out right lies to get the job done- (at least, HE thinks he got the job done)  all of this because he doesnt think "certain people" got the proper playing time-  And for the record -  If you want to believe that Kountze players get the coaches help, isnt it interesting that the Hancock brothers (who were the most successful at the next level) were coached by the very guy that swag/betrayed/redtored,etc.etc) wants to bash?

[Betrayed]

[quote name="stevenash" post="854186" timestamp="1285249596"]
[quote author=speechless link=topic=73010.msg854166#msg854166 date=1285245960]
of course a good question would be are we talking athletic scholarships only?  [size=12pt][color=red]lots of coaches help kids get to college through avenues other than athletics...[/color][/size]

should we compare hj graduates that played basketball going to college regardless of the avenue vs. the aforementioned schools?  that would be a more fair comparison wouldn't it?

then again, it doesn't do much good if one isn't willing to tell the whole story such as coaches setting up tryouts and players just not showing up to them or players refusing to fill out the necessary paperwork in order to qualify for college or players going to college and not making the grade only to wind up standing along the fence at Friday night football games.....of course, I'm sure I should assume their high school coaches are supposed to go to college with them and make their grades for them....right?

if you want to compare....let's REALLY compare...
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He DOES NOT want to really compare - He wants to bash HJ coaches and will tell half truths  or out right lies to get the job done- (at least, HE thinks he got the job done)  all of this because he doesnt think "certain people" got the proper playing time-  And for the record -  If you want to believe that Kountze players get the coaches help, isnt it interesting that the Hancock brothers (who were the most successful at the next level) were coached by the very guy that swag/betrayed/redtored,etc.etc) wants to bash?
[/quote]Hj players from across the tracks are in good hands now. Couldn't be in a better situation to have [size=12pt][color=red]Omar Sneed [/color] [/size] in your corner!! Prudohmme, Lil Penny (Bosha), and Will put in alot of work this summer. They got to work with several Nba players (1on1's) and Sneed himself. Twice a day. Monday thru Thurs. They competed on a high level and really stood out in several National AAU Tournaments this summer. Thanx for supporting them Hj staff ;) Silsbee, Kountze, Ozen, Anahauc, Wb,  and Central coaches all supported their players in local tournaments at the Montagne. Omar and B.J Tyler will definitely be there to support them when the season starts, and after they graduate...lol

[Lazeek]

[quote name="$wag" post="854482" timestamp="1285272999"]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=73010.msg854186#msg854186 date=1285249596]
[quote author=speechless link=topic=73010.msg854166#msg854166 date=1285245960]
of course a good question would be are we talking athletic scholarships only?  [size=12pt][color=red]lots of coaches help kids get to college through avenues other than athletics...[/color][/size]

should we compare hj graduates that played basketball going to college regardless of the avenue vs. the aforementioned schools?  that would be a more fair comparison wouldn't it?

then again, it doesn't do much good if one isn't willing to tell the whole story such as coaches setting up tryouts and players just not showing up to them or players refusing to fill out the necessary paperwork in order to qualify for college or players going to college and not making the grade only to wind up standing along the fence at Friday night football games.....of course, I'm sure I should assume their high school coaches are supposed to go to college with them and make their grades for them....right?

if you want to compare....let's REALLY compare...
[/quote]

He DOES NOT want to really compare - He wants to bash HJ coaches and will tell half truths  or out right lies to get the job done- (at least, HE thinks he got the job done)  all of this because he doesnt think "certain people" got the proper playing time-  And for the record -  If you want to believe that Kountze players get the coaches help, isnt it interesting that the Hancock brothers (who were the most successful at the next level) were coached by the very guy that swag/betrayed/redtored,etc.etc) wants to bash?
[/quote]Hj players from across the tracks are in good hands now. Couldn't be in a better situation to have [size=12pt][color=red]Omar Sneed [/color] [/size] in your corner!! Prudohmme, Lil Penny (Bosha), and Will put in alot of work this summer. They got to work with several Nba players (1on1's) and Sneed himself. Twice a day. Monday thru Thurs. They competed on a high level and really stood out in several National AAU Tournaments this summer. Thanx for supporting them Hj staff ;) Silsbee, Kountze, Ozen, Anahauc, Wb,  and Central coaches all supported their players in local tournaments at the Montagne. Omar and B.J Tyler will definitely be there to support them when the season starts, and after they graduate...lol
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I thought the last HJ player you mentioned was going to greener pastures at Ozen.........we all see how that worked out!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::)

[AggiesAreWe]

How about bring them to Silsbee? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Lazeek]

Would not surprise me to see them move anywhere AAW.......nothing is ever good enough and it is always a "across the tracks" thing!!!!

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="854498" timestamp="1285275081"]
Would not surprise me to see them move anywhere AAW.......nothing is ever good enough and it is always a "across the tracks" thing!!!!
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But aren't these "across the tracks" guys enrolled at HJ right now?

[Lazeek]

Yes they are.........and people can talk all they want!!!  They are not going anywhere, no matter how much greener they think it is on the other side!!!!!!  Start and play significant minutes or ride the pine in a BISD school!!!!!

[Betrayed]

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="854503" timestamp="1285275769"]
Yes they are.........and people can talk all they want!!!  They are not going anywhere, no matter how much greener they think it is on the other side!!!!!!  Start and play significant minutes or ride the pine in a BISD school!!!!!
[/quote]This dude funny.

[Betrayed]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="854501" timestamp="1285275427"]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=73010.msg854498#msg854498 date=1285275081]
Would not surprise me to see them move anywhere AAW.......nothing is ever good enough and it is always a "across the tracks" thing!!!!
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But aren't these "across the tracks" guys enrolled at HJ right now?
[/quote]Not releasing a player, calling the other player sister quite often after serious threats of being kicked off.

[Lazeek]

[quote name="$wag" post="854527" timestamp="1285278481"]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=73010.msg854501#msg854501 date=1285275427]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=73010.msg854498#msg854498 date=1285275081]
Would not surprise me to see them move anywhere AAW.......nothing is ever good enough and it is always a "across the tracks" thing!!!!
[/quote]

But aren't these "across the tracks" guys enrolled at HJ right now?
[/quote]Not releasing a player, calling the other player sister quite often after serious threats of being kicked off.
[/quote]

Dont blame the coaches...........the player was granted a release by the HJ Admin!!!!

[Betrayed]

[size=10pt][color=red]Since when did you become the Sagacious one?? [/color] [/size] You don't know $hitt..Were you there when the football coached called his mom and told her he would have to sit out a year. Were u there when he told her that it wasn't wise for him to move his senior year because several college coaches had been calling about him regarding football. Were you there when the bball coached called his sister several times and had long conversations after the fight when he was about to check out..(Do i need to say what was said?) FYI, Yes they're at Hj, only because of where they live, not by choice  ;)

[cameron09]

Were you there??? Maybe he stayed to play with his friends and why would any parent move their kid from a good/safe school like H-J to a school in one of the most dangerous parts of Beaumont!!