kacetwo Posted September 30, 2010 Report Posted September 30, 2010 I am not sure if you have been following the dispute between TASO and the UIL but the current situation is only officials who have registered with UIL by the 1st November will be allowed to work UIL football and Volleyball after that date. At present there seems to be little movement by TASO members to join UIL and so there is a real chance of no (or few of questionable ability) officials for week 10 and the playoffs.There are two letters circulating to TASO members at present which I post below for your information and to allow you to form your own opinion of what is happening. One thing you can see is there is little common ground between the two sides.As the thread title says have you any view on the issues? I would like to hear how people in the stands feel about all this.The messages are quite long and so I have given them a post each for ease of reference.
kacetwo Posted September 30, 2010 Author Report Posted September 30, 2010 The UIL statement from http://uil.arbitersports.com/front/105040/Site/Default/Free-Online-Registration[quote]To: All Sports OfficialsFrom: UIL Sports Officials DepartmentSubject: Free Online RegistrationDate: September 27, 2010This past Tuesday, the UIL and TASO met to discuss the required UIL registration process. The meeting was arranged by Mike Fitch, executive director of TASO, to discuss and understand the required free registration of all sports officials for UIL contests and the November 1st effective date. The following individuals were invited by TASO and included Bill Fecci, president TASO football, Gary Boothe, president San Antonio football, Charles Stephenson, secretary Dallas football, Charlie Little, president Fort Worth football, Wayne Elliot, executive secretary Austin football and Tommy Moore, executive secretary Houston football. The Texas High School Coaches Association was also invited by TASO but both D.W. Rutledge, executive director, and Joe Martin, assistant executive director, did not attend.The UIL was represented by Dr. Charles Breithaupt, executive director, Dr. Mark Cousins, director of policy, Cliff Odenwald, director of athletics, and Tony Timmons, director of officials. The following representatives were invited by the UIL and were quoted on the record during the meeting in full support of the free registration of officials with the UIL under section 1204 of the Constitution and Contest Rules. Rick Reedy, Frisco ISD Superintendent and chair of the Legislative Council; Curtis Culwell, Superintendent of Garland ISD, former chair of the legislative council and council member; Greg Poole, Superintendent of Barbers Hill ISD, legislative council member; Mark Henry, Superintendent Galena Park ISD, legislative council member; Sam Tipton, executive director Texas Girls Coaches Association; Rick Sherley, executive director Texas Association of Basketball Coaches; Rex Sanders, executive director Texas High School Baseball Coaches Association; Joe Barnett, president Texas High School Athletic Directors Association; Gil Garza, executive director of athletics San Antonio ISD, immediate past president of the THSADA and current State Executive Committee member; Ed Warken, Galena Park ISD athletic director and Brian Clancy, San Antonio assistant athletic director.Each attendee took turns speaking on behalf of their respective organization and their support of the UIL and the free registration of officials. All of the attendees representing their organization spoke regarding the deep appreciation for officials and the work they do for the UIL member schools of Texas. Each attendee gave accounts of their organizations relationship with the officiating community and the importance of schools and officials working together with regard to accountability and the responsibility everyone has to the game. UIL Legislative Council members spoke regarding the importance of following the Constitution and Contest Rules and 1204. The UIL Legislative Council members discussed how important it was to have officials and schools working together for the good of the student athletes. Attendees also spoke regarding the importance of the Officials Compliance Program (OCP) for officials and the Rules Compliance Program (RCP) for coaches. These two programs provide a balance of accountability for both officials and coaches. UIL staff stated that for the first time in officiating history, officials have a choice as to where to receive their membership services. It was discussed that the free registration is completely separate from membership and does not align the registered official with the UIL. Mr. Timmons explained that a chapter may choose to align with either the UIL or TASO as long as any official who desired to officiate UIL contests is registered with the UIL. Registration was discussed as an individuals choice and not the choice of the chapter and that every official must decide individually to register online in order to be eligible to officiate UIL member school contests from sub varsity to varsity.TASO members asked to extend the November 1st deadline. Legislative Council and UIL attendees explained why November 1st was established and how that deadline could not be moved for just the sport of football. It was explained that both schools and officials needed time to prepare for the most comprehensive pay increase in Texas officiating history. It was also explained that this decision of the Council was scheduled to go into effect on July 1st, 2010, but because of the previous litigation with TASO it was pushed back until November 1st. Mr. Timmons discussed the simplicity of the registration process and explained that the free registration did not declare anyone a member with the UIL nor make them a representative of the UIL. He went on to explain that current TASO Chapter affiliations could remain and officials could continue to receive their membership services from TASO and would be eligible to receive regular season and play off games as long as their respective members were registered with the UIL. Questions were raised about whether the free registration would always be free and it was explained that the Legislative Council makes all policies regarding its UIL member schools and games not the UIL staff. There is no plan to change the free registration.In summary, acknowledgments were made on both sides pertaining to mistakes in the past, but overall the meeting proved to be very productive regarding the understanding of the free online registration process. It was reiterated that the registration process would not effect or change the current structure of a TASO chapter if the chapter chooses to remain a member with TASO as long as their members who desire to officiate UIL contests complete the free online registration. Currently there are over 7000 officials who have registered with the UIL and will be eligible to officiate UIL member school contests after November 1st.Please contact the UIL Sports Officials Department regarding questions for registration and/or membership.[/quote]
kacetwo Posted September 30, 2010 Author Report Posted September 30, 2010 The TASO Statement[quote]September 29, 2010 In the last week, many of you received an email from the UIL office. Based on the telephone calls and emails I have received, the message from the UIL caused more confusion to the UIL’s attempt to dominate and control all officiating in Texas. The purpose of this note is to add clarity to the subject and provide you the organization’s official stance on matters as they relate to the UIL. As a result, the length of this message is longer than usual. Joint Statement Has NOT Been Released On Monday, September 27, 2010, many of you received an email stating the UIL position regarding the September 21, 2010 meeting between TASO, those representing the UIL’s position and the UIL staff. This correspondence is not the joint statement between TASO and the UIL that you may have heard was forthcoming. Rest assured, until you see my signature on the same page with the representative from the UIL, a joint statement has not been released. Background leading up to the September 21, 2010 meeting Over the past few weeks I have been contacted by many members and chapter officers about the November 1st deadline for TASO members to register with the UIL. Many parties including TASO members, coaches, athletic directors and other school administrators did not understand why the UIL selected this date. Did the UIL consider the impact their action may have on volleyball playoffs, and the final week of the regular football season when district championships are on the line and playoff implications are determined? The confusion is understandable given the UIL’s position is somewhat fluid. Given the confusion caused by the UIL’s arbitrary deadline, some of the Football Secretaries asked me to get clarification from the UIL and wanted to meet in Austin to discuss. I felt the best way to get answers was straight from the UIL, so I called Dr. Breithaupt to invite him and arranged the meeting. Dr. Breithaupt immediately passed me off to Tony Timmons. I explained what the Football Secretaries were asking and invited him to attend the meeting so the UIL position could be explained. Since the coaches and ADs are also impacted, I invited representatives from the Texas High School Coaches Association and the Texas High School Athletic Directors Association. The Coaches Association representatives could not attend due to previous commitments, but the Athletic Director’s representative accepted the invitation. I have received many calls asking, “Why was football the only Division invited?†and “Why just the largest football chapters?†As I answer these questions, please consider the original invitation only included the UIL staff involved with officiating. Originally, it was expected the meeting would have roughly equal numbers of TASO and UIL representatives. Meetings are more productive when a small number of individuals attend. I also thought it would be more professional to keep the number of attendees to a minimum. The reason the football division attended the meeting was the Football Secretaries were primarily the ones asking me for the detailed information. As explained above, the number of chapter secretaries was limited to keep the meeting focused, and I know it would have been a hardship for all 23 football chapters to be in Austin on a Tuesday morning with only four days notice. As you will read later, the November 1st deadline only affects volleyball and football. The deadline for the other sports is not November 1, 2010. NOTE: I encourage all sports to meet with the UIL and me. The meeting on September 21, 2010 was not intended to be the final meeting between TASO and the UIL. This is your organization. Chapter Secretaries and Presidents, please let me know if you want the UIL and/or me to meet with your chapter. Highlights of the September 21, 2010 meeting The UIL took it upon themselves to invite a total of 15 people to the meeting including superintendents, athletic directors and representatives from the Texas Girls Coach’s Association, the Baseball Coaches Association and the Basketball Association. Even though this was unexpected (they knew it would only be Football Chapter chapters, so why the Girls, Baseball and Basketball Coaches representatives???), it was not disappointing as TASO has requested meetings with this level of attendees in the past but was always refused. The UIL recorded the entire meeting, and I asked all attendees to sign their name and affiliation on a sheet of paper. We had a gentleman’s agreement that we would exchange the audio recording and sign-in list the next days. When the meeting began, I was asked if one of the superintendents, the Chairman of the Legislative Council could make a statement. I agreed and he made a statement in support of the UIL registration policy. He immediately yielded the floor to another UIL invitee who basically said the same thing followed by 5 or 6 similar statements from the UIL invitees. Since these men were invited to the meeting by the UIL, it is no great surprise that they were unified in their support of the UIL and their registration process. Unfortunately, many of them left after the first hour, so they did not hear much from us or our perspective. After they all had an opportunity to state their positions, I opened up the core of the meeting with a simple question for the entire UIL contingent: “Since the November 1st date is causing so much confusion and concern for TASO members, coaches and administrators and there is a very real chance that many of Football and Volleyball members will not abide by the November 1st date causing even more confusion during the Volleyball and Football play-offs, please answer this … How is this in the best interest of the Texas High School Student Athlete?†There was a solid 5 – 7 seconds of stone cold silence as obviously no one had a good answer. After that, several chimed in with obvious canned and rehearsed answers such as: “It was the first available date after the first law suit was dismissed†… Really? The first suit was dismissed on August 27th. How is November 1st the first “available†date? “It’s important that all sports sign up on the same date†… Really? Later when it was asked if the spring sports (Baseball, Soccer and Softball) would also have to sign up by November 1st, we were told that they only had to register before they officiated in a UIL contest, so there seems to be nothing special about the November 1st date. …and my personal favorite … “It’s on a Monday.†Now that brings us back to the “joint statementâ€. Towards the end of the meeting, one of the TASO representatives suggested that much of the confusion about the registration process could be cleared up with a joint statement of the FACTS. It was suggested that if these FACTS could be committed to a document signed by both Tony Timmons and me, that it would go a long way to the understanding of the TASO member’s alternatives. Both Tony Timmons and I agreed to the joint statement that simply stated the facts. We left the meeting with the understanding that Tony Timmons and I would share our interpretations of the meeting’s discussion points and together agree on the final document. To that end, I have been communicating with the TASO members in attendance at the meeting to ensure we all had a common understanding of these points as stated by the UIL. Results of the September 21, 2010 meeting On Wednesday, September 22, 2010, I sent Tony a copy of the sign-in sheet from the meeting. I have yet to receive a copy of the audio recording. On Sunday night, September 26, 2010, at 7:59 PM, I received Tony Timmons’ version of the meeting. In his e-mail, he stated that it was for me to review as he was sending it out the next day (Monday, September 27, 2010). I responded by reminding him that he agreed to us working together to create a statement of facts for TASO members to consider and that I would share his version with the other TASO attendees and we would reply to him. We all know what happened next; we received the e-mail from the UIL about the meeting. It was issued with NO input from me or any of the TASO members that attended at the September 21st meeting. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT YOU RECEIVED FROM THE UIL ON SEPTEMBER 27th WAS THE UIL INTERPRETATION OF THE MEETING. NEITHER I NOR ANYONE ELSE FROM TASO WAS ALLOWED ANY INPUT IN SPITE OF WHAT WAS AGREED TO IN FRONT OF EVERYONE ATTENDING THE MEETING. THERE IS SOME FACTUAL INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE UIL MESSAGE, BUT THERE ARE ALSO STATEMENTS NEVER MADE IN THAT MEETING AND SEVERAL NOTABLE OMISSIONS. It is important reiterate, all parties left the September 21st meeting with the understanding that Tony Timmons and I would share our interpretations of the meeting’s discussion points and together agree on the final document. The TASO members in attendance and I have been working to develop an accurate statement of the meeting to ensure we all had a common understanding of these points as stated by the UIL. As you can clearly see, the UIL leadership continues to say one thing, but do another. Conclusions The UIL chose November 1st because they believe that you as an official will do anything to work a playoff game. Signing up is free (for now), and once you are registered, you are eligible to work playoff games. I understand that play-off games are a reward for all the hard work and dedication during the pre-season scrimmages and regular season. I have been an official for 37 years and I understand how most officials think. After spending 10+ years on the Football and TASO boards working with the UIL every year on numerous issues, listening to what they say and observing what they do, I have much different perspective on their long-term goals. Many people have asked “what’s wrong with a free registration?†Good question, and if taken by itself, nothing. However it’s a lot like the small leak in the dam, it never remains a small leak, left unplugged it eventually becomes a total collapse of the dam. If this is how they treat TASO members and leadership now, can you image how it will be if they are in total control? DO NOT be fooled by their new approach that a Chapter can remain a TASO Chapter and the individual members can officiate UIL contests simply by a free registration process. That maybe true today, but in my opinion, it will not remain so. They tried to bulldoze our membership into joining previously and found that tactic did not work and now they have formulated a new scheme of a kinder and gentler UIL. As an example, we only have to look back to last week’s meeting, when the registration process went from “free forever†at the beginning of the meeting to “free for now†at the end. They can’t even keep the same story through a single meeting! I attended a TASO Softball Chapter meeting this past Sunday where Tony Timmons referred (via a telephone connection) to TASO as the “former†organization. This gives you an insight to their real intentions. I have attempted to negotiate an agreement with the UIL to end the dispute and the lawsuit. Many of you have expressed the opinion that “why can’t you just sit down with them and work this out?†I have tried repeatedly. The UIL leadership would not collaborate with us on a simple joint statement – even after agreeing to do so in a room full of people. Tossing the agreement aside is a living example of the tactics used by the UIL.They do not want to negotiate. Their intent is to control every aspect of high school officiating, including your high school officiating career. Welcome to the world of high school officiating in Texas as they will have it. Don’t forget that we will be back in court well before the November 1st registration deadline attempting to stop the registration process. TASO is a membership organization and our members are independent contractors. Registration is an individual choice. I suggest you wait until after the court date to finalize your decision.I encourage you to ask these questions:1. Where would TASO be if we did not take a firm stand in December 2009?2. If we did not take a stand then, do you think you, as a high school official, would be better off with only representation from a state bureaucracy controlled by the same people that control the schools? 3. If the UIL treats us this way now, what do you think of their Due Process when a conflict arises on the field, diamond or court? Below are the points that came out of the September 21st meeting. ALL TASO attendees are in 100% agreement as to their accuracy. Regards, Mike Michael FitchExecutive DirectorTexas Association of Sports Officials These are the points that were made during a meeting of Football Chapter representatives and the UIL. Even though this meeting was focused on Football, these points apply to all sports. This is simply a restatement of the “facts about registration†as related to the TASO attendees by the UIL and should NOT be considered as an indication of support by TASO or a recommendation to register. TASO is a membership organization and our members are independent contractors. Registration is an individual choice. · Meeting attendees included UIL Staff, Members of the UIL Legislative Council, Athletic Directors, Athletic Director Association President, representatives for the Girls Coaches Association, Basketball Coaches Association, Baseball Coaches Association, TASO Houston Football, TASO Dallas Football, TASO Fort Worth Football, TASO San Antonio Football, TASO Austin Football, TASO Football President, and the TASO Executive Director;· There is a very distinct difference between an official “registering†with the UIL and a Chapter “joining†the UIL;· Individual officials “register†with the UIL, a Chapter may vote to “join†the UIL;· Ultimately all chapters will have to decide which “Provider†they choose to use, TASO or the UIL although Dr. Breithaupt and Tony Timmons both encouraged current TASO members to remain with TASO;· A Chapter that joins the UIL will pay $50 State Dues per member and receive all of their services (testing, rule books, training, disciplinary actions, etc.) from the UIL instead of TASO;· Currently, individual registration is free although there may be a fee established in the future;· UIL Registration is an annual event and the UIL reserves the right to make an official ineligible to work UIL contests;· The registration deadline for Football and Volleyball is November 1st as we are in the middle of those seasons. Officials in other sports must register before they officiate any UIL game;· All officials must register with the UIL to officiate in UIL games at all levels;· Individual registration by the UIL is not required to officiate non UIL contests;· All Officials must belong to a Chapter that is either a TASO member or aligned with the UIL and cannot solicit games individually; The UIL will not allow a UIL chapter to form in an area that there is a chapter that opted to stay a TASO chapter where most of the members are registered with the UIL and that chapter is covering the local UIL School’s games; · UIL assignments will not favor a UIL Chapter, and· The ADs and Administrators pledged to enforce both sides of the 1204 fee schedule and travel policy and make UIL member schools pay accordingly.[/quote]
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