20-4A..Who's got the toughest remaining schedule?

[D3zii]

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Gotta agree with Badndn. With Central being the favorite, this isnt one of there better defenses. IMO, not a great D in the district. But plenty of offense.
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Our Defense is pretty solid if you ask me..If anything  our offense hurts our defense..Either they score to quickly or turn the ball over in the other teams territory..Their hasnt been one team all year that has just drove the field on us, excepte Livingston and that was because of penaltys..I think this will help us in the long run..
[/quote]Scoring too quickly is a good problem!  8) 8)
[/quote]Yea it is, but it can wear out a defense if the other team controls the clock and scores. :(
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Exactly. When the game 1st stars off, our Defense is Dominant, but in the 2nd half and our defense has been on the field most of the game, it hurts them..But hopefully they'll jus get so use to it, it'll help us in the long run

[BMTSoulja1]

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Gotta agree with Badndn. With Central being the favorite, this isnt one of there better defenses. IMO, not a great D in the district. But plenty of offense.
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Our Defense is pretty solid if you ask me..If anything  our offense hurts our defense..Either they score to quickly or turn the ball over in the other teams territory..Their hasnt been one team all year that has just drove the field on us, excepte Livingston and that was because of penaltys..I think this will help us in the long run..
[/quote]Scoring too quickly is a good problem!   8) 8)
[/quote]Yea it is, but it can wear out a defense if the other team controls the clock and scores. :(
[/quote]I dissagree.  Scoring puts a lot of pressure on the other teams offense to match what you've done.  Not a lot of teams are prepared to feel they have to score when they get the ball, causing them to turn the ball over trying to do too much and stuff they are not accustom to doing...

[Guest Pirate_pride_07]

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Gotta agree with Badndn. With Central being the favorite, this isnt one of there better defenses. IMO, not a great D in the district. But plenty of offense.
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Our Defense is pretty solid if you ask me..If anything  our offense hurts our defense..Either they score to quickly or turn the ball over in the other teams territory..Their hasnt been one team all year that has just drove the field on us, excepte Livingston and that was because of penaltys..I think this will help us in the long run..
[/quote]Scoring too quickly is a good problem!   8) 8)
[/quote]Yea it is, but it can wear out a defense if the other team controls the clock and scores. :(
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Which is exactly what Vidor does with its offense and i've seen two games this year where we have put up 40+ points and last year with the same offense we had 4 games where we put up 40+ points. So i'm still saying watch out for Vidor. Our defense is getting better and better each game. I mean we held a dang good offense of LCM to 28 points last week and scored 21 points on a defense that shut out lumberton. So watch out for the underdog Vidor is all i'm saying.

[BMTSoulja1]

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Gotta agree with Badndn. With Central being the favorite, this isnt one of there better defenses. IMO, not a great D in the district. But plenty of offense.
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Our Defense is pretty solid if you ask me..If anything  our offense hurts our defense..Either they score to quickly or turn the ball over in the other teams territory..Their hasnt been one team all year that has just drove the field on us, excepte Livingston and that was because of penaltys..I think this will help us in the long run..
[/quote]Scoring too quickly is a good problem!   8) 8)
[/quote]Yea it is, but it can wear out a defense if the other team controls the clock and scores. :(
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Exactly. When the game 1st stars off, our Defense is Dominant, but in the 2nd half and our defense has been on the field most of the game, it hurts them..But hopefully they'll jus get so use to it, it'll help us in the long run
[/quote]Do you ever see how pumped up our defense is on the sidelines when we break a fast score?  They want to be out there. Kind of like a competition.  Who spends the least amount of time on the field... ;D ;D

[BigWolf10]

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Gotta agree with Badndn. With Central being the favorite, this isnt one of there better defenses. IMO, not a great D in the district. But plenty of offense.
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Our Defense is pretty solid if you ask me..If anything  our offense hurts our defense..Either they score to quickly or turn the ball over in the other teams territory..Their hasnt been one team all year that has just drove the field on us, excepte Livingston and that was because of penaltys..I think this will help us in the long run..
[/quote]Scoring too quickly is a good problem!   8) 8)
[/quote]Yea it is, but it can wear out a defense if the other team controls the clock and scores. :(
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Which is exactly what Vidor does with its offense and i've seen two games this year where we have put up 40+ points and last year with the same offense we had 4 games where we put up 40+ points. So i'm still saying watch out for Vidor. Our defense is getting better and better each game. I mean we held a dang good offense of LCM to [b]28 points last week and scored 21 points[/b] on a defense that shut out lumberton. So watch out for the underdog Vidor is all i'm saying.
[/quote]It's ironic cypress scored 28 on your defense and ours. We score 37 on theirs ;D. I don't read into that kinda stuff. Every game is different ;)

[BMTSoulja1]

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Gotta agree with Badndn. With Central being the favorite, this isnt one of there better defenses. IMO, not a great D in the district. But plenty of offense.
[/quote]

Our Defense is pretty solid if you ask me..If anything  our offense hurts our defense..Either they score to quickly or turn the ball over in the other teams territory..Their hasnt been one team all year that has just drove the field on us, excepte Livingston and that was because of penaltys..I think this will help us in the long run..
[/quote]Scoring too quickly is a good problem!   8) 8)
[/quote]Yea it is, but it can wear out a defense if the other team controls the clock and scores. :(
[/quote]

Which is exactly what Vidor does with its offense and i've seen two games this year where we have put up 40+ points and last year with the same offense we had 4 games where we put up 40+ points. So i'm still saying watch out for Vidor. Our defense is getting better and better each game. I mean we held a dang good offense of LCM to 28 points last week and scored 21 points on a defense that shut out lumberton. So watch out for the underdog Vidor is all i'm saying.
[/quote]Yes, I know Vidor will be tough, especially at home. They always are.  We will need to find a way to cause a lot ot 3 and outs and take their heart early

[D3zii]

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Gotta agree with Badndn. With Central being the favorite, this isnt one of there better defenses. IMO, not a great D in the district. But plenty of offense.
[/quote]

Our Defense is pretty solid if you ask me..If anything  our offense hurts our defense..Either they score to quickly or turn the ball over in the other teams territory..Their hasnt been one team all year that has just drove the field on us, excepte Livingston and that was because of penaltys..I think this will help us in the long run..
[/quote]Scoring too quickly is a good problem!   8) 8)
[/quote]Yea it is, but it can wear out a defense if the other team controls the clock and scores. :(
[/quote]

Which is exactly what Vidor does with its offense and i've seen two games this year where we have put up 40+ points and last year with the same offense we had 4 games where we put up 40+ points. So i'm still saying watch out for Vidor. Our defense is getting better and better each game. I mean we held a dang good offense of LCM to 28 points last week and scored 21 points on a defense that shut out lumberton. So watch out for the underdog Vidor is all i'm saying.
[/quote]Yes, I know Vidor will be tough, especially at home. They always are.  We will need to find a way to cause a lot ot 3 and outs and take their heart early
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Gotta agree with Badndn. With Central being the favorite, this isnt one of there better defenses. IMO, not a great D in the district. But plenty of offense.
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Our Defense is pretty solid if you ask me..If anything  our offense hurts our defense..Either they score to quickly or turn the ball over in the other teams territory..Their hasnt been one team all year that has just drove the field on us, excepte Livingston and that was because of penaltys..I think this will help us in the long run..
[/quote]Scoring too quickly is a good problem!  8) 8)
[/quote]Yea it is, but it can wear out a defense if the other team controls the clock and scores. :(
[/quote]
Exactly. When the game 1st stars off, our Defense is Dominant, but in the 2nd half and our defense has been on the field most of the game, it hurts them..But hopefully they'll jus get so use to it, it'll help us in the long run
[/quote]Do you ever see how pumped up our defense is on the sidelines when we break a fast score?  They want to be out there. Kind of like a competition.  Who spends the least amount of time on the field... ;D ;D
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Yea soulja Ive seen that..I think we're gonna be good though, no matter what anyone says, I think we go farther then 2rounds..I think once we start peaking, Our defense will be shutdown like all the rest of our Defenses..

[BRONX ROX]

The "big play" is your enemy. Keep everything in front of you and youll be ok

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Gotta agree with Badndn. With Central being the favorite, this isnt one of there better defenses. IMO, not a great D in the district. But plenty of offense.
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Our Defense is pretty solid if you ask me..If anything  our offense hurts our defense..Either they score to quickly or turn the ball over in the other teams territory..Their hasnt been one team all year that has just drove the field on us, excepte Livingston and that was because of penaltys..I think this will help us in the long run..
[/quote]Scoring too quickly is a good problem!   8) 8)
[/quote]Yea it is, but it can wear out a defense if the other team controls the clock and scores. :(
[/quote]

Which is exactly what Vidor does with its offense and i've seen two games this year where we have put up 40+ points and last year with the same offense we had 4 games where we put up 40+ points. So i'm still saying watch out for Vidor. Our defense is getting better and better each game. I mean we held a dang good offense of LCM to [b]28 points last week and scored 21 points[/b] on a defense that shut out lumberton. So watch out for the underdog Vidor is all i'm saying.
[/quote]It's ironic cypress scored 28 on your defense and ours. We score 37 on theirs ;D. I don't read into that kinda stuff. Every game is different ;)
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Big difference there buddy. One week can change a lot in defenses and offenses.

[Guest slsblab]

Just my opinion on Vidor shutting down LCM offense. Vidors offense kept LCM to limited offensive possessions by running the ball and clock. And LCM had several dropped passes which killed a few drives which is unusual for LCM receivers. One LCM series ended in a fumble. When you have limited possessions dropped passes and a fumble and still score 28 and have just under 400 yds, you weren't shutdown. The credit should go to Vidors offense for controlling the ball and the clock.

[BRONX ROX]

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Just my opinion on Vidor shutting down LCM offense. Vidors offense kept LCM to limited offensive possessions by running the ball and clock. And LCM had several dropped passes which killed a few drives which is unusual for LCM receivers. One LCM series ended in a fumble. When you have limited possessions dropped passes and a fumble and still score 28 and have just under 400 yds, you weren't shutdown. The credit should go to Vidors offense for controlling the ball and the clock.
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Vidor D not that GOOD and if a team has any kinda run defense Vidor is in trouble. Just sayin

[badndn]

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Am I the only one who sees this dist. actually doing well in the playoffs?
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YES

[badndn]

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So i'm still saying watch out for Vidor. Our defense is getting better and better each game. I mean we held a dang good offense of LCM to 28 points last week and scored 21 points on a defense that shut out lumberton. So watch out for the underdog Vidor is all i'm saying.
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Vidor HELD LCM to 28 points??
This is what I am talking about. A good defensive night is holding an opponent to 28 points.

As far as the question about great offenses or bad defenses in this district, look over the pre-district. Lots of points being scored against all teams! Does anyone here actually think that any team in this district will rack up 28+ on the likes of Brenham, Dayton, Montgomery, FWood or what looks to be a solid El Campo? Because with these defenses in 20 4A thats what its gonna take to get a W over these teams.

[football04]

Right now region 3 is controlled by the likes of Brenham, Dayton and Friendswood and I don't see anyone in our district beating these teams right now, but whoever comes out of our district will give anyone else a run for their money. I would put 20-4A against any district in the state on a top to bottom matchup, our #1 may not beat their #1, but we will win more games than the other district, let Ozen go play anyone in any other district right now that hasn't won a district game and I bet it is a blowout.

[BRONX ROX]

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Right now region 3 is controlled by the likes of Brenham, Dayton and Friendswood and I don't see anyone in our district beating these teams right now, but whoever comes out of our district will give anyone else a run for their money. I would put 20-4A against any district in the state on a top to bottom matchup, our #1 may not beat their #1, but we will win more games than the other district, let Ozen go play anyone in any other district right now that hasn't won a district game and I bet it is a blowout.
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Agree that 20-4A is probally the most balanced top to bottom but is that because the teams are all good or all average? The problem I see in the district is consistency. You never know what team is going to show up.

[BrenhamFan]

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Right now region 3 is controlled by the likes of Brenham, Dayton and Friendswood and I don't see anyone in our district beating these teams right now, but whoever comes out of our district will give anyone else a run for their money. I would put 20-4A against any district in the state on a top to bottom matchup, our #1 may not beat their #1, but we will win more games than the other district, let Ozen go play anyone in any other district right now that hasn't won a district game and I bet it is a blowout.
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24-4A would take 20-4A from top to bottom.  Heck, I think they would beat any district.  I always wonder how 20-4A scores so much and has so many ypg...  Those #'s never happen in or district. (not consistently anyways) Leads me to think of 20-4A as the Big 12 of hs football.  I would also add Montgomery and El Campo to your list of Region 3 powers, if their not already there.

[BRONX ROX]

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Right now region 3 is controlled by the likes of Brenham, Dayton and Friendswood and I don't see anyone in our district beating these teams right now, but whoever comes out of our district will give anyone else a run for their money. I would put 20-4A against any district in the state on a top to bottom matchup, our #1 may not beat their #1, but we will win more games than the other district, let Ozen go play anyone in any other district right now that hasn't won a district game and I bet it is a blowout.
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24-4A would take 20-4A from top to bottom.  Heck, I think they would beat any district.  I always wonder how 20-4A scores so much and has so many ypg...  Those #'s never happen in or district. (not consistently anyways) Leads me to think of 20-4A as the Big 12 of hs football.  I would also add Montgomery and El Campo to your list of Region 3 powers, if their not already there.
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Real football is played west of the Trinity River ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[football04]

I hear you Brenham and I hope the dogs are lucky enough to get a shot at yall, we'll make the most of it.

[BRONX ROX]

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I hear you Brenham and I hope the dogs are lucky enough to get a shot at yall, we'll make the most of it.
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Thats what its about stepping up when you get the chance

[Guest slsblab]

20 4A puts up big numbers because the teams play to their strengths. They have great skill players and QB,s. LCM can throw the ball on anyone. PNG has good balance and Central has great talent and speed. I am not saying they will beat teams from other districts because the truth is I haven't seen all the other teams as no one else on here has. But these are high school teams to say they cannot beat these other teams is just an opinion. Maybe 20 4A can outscore these teams, Texas Tech won alot of games doing it under Leach. The offenses in 20 4A are very diverse and skilled. It makes good conversation but no one really knows how these different teams would match up. By the way 3A WOS gave Friendswood all they could handle earlier this year, so anything could happen.

[BrenhamFan]

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I hear you Brenham and I hope the dogs are lucky enough to get a shot at yall, we'll make the most of it.
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Who's your team, Nederland?  If so, y'all won't get a shot at us because y'all would go D1 and we will go D2.  That's the bad thing about having a # next to your name...  That ranking makes sure you get everybody's best shot.  Teams circle that game...

[DogOne]

I agree with slsblab.  I think the offenses are too multi-dimensional for the defenses to stop consistently.  For instance, PNG has a great passing game while also being able to run it down your throat.  Even Ozen has a dynamic offense with a quarterback who can pass and run.  Nederland can move the ball with Forney passing or run it with #9 out of the wildcat.  Central showed against Nederland that they have a passing attack to go with their strong running game.  LCM has a great offense with their fast QB and WRs.  These are 4A teams who only have so many quality athletes and it seems that everyone in 20-4A is putting their athletes on the offensive side of the ball.  At least this season.   

[BRONX ROX]

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I hear you Brenham and I hope the dogs are lucky enough to get a shot at yall, we'll make the most of it.
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Who's your team, Nederland?  If so, y'all won't get a shot at us because y'all would go D1 and we will go D2.  That's the bad thing about having a # next to your name...  That ranking makes sure you get everybody's best shot.  Teams circle that game...
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I still have nightmares of the second have last year. It doesnt have a circle it has a X on it this year.

[BrenhamFan]

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I hear you Brenham and I hope the dogs are lucky enough to get a shot at yall, we'll make the most of it.
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Who's your team, Nederland?  If so, y'all won't get a shot at us because y'all would go D1 and we will go D2.  That's the bad thing about having a # next to your name...  That ranking makes sure you get everybody's best shot.  Teams circle that game...
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I still have nightmares of the second have last year. It doesnt have a circle it has a X on it this year.
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The rematch isn't garunteed...  We both have to get through our first round games first.

[BRONX ROX]

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I hear you Brenham and I hope the dogs are lucky enough to get a shot at yall, we'll make the most of it.
[/quote]

Who's your team, Nederland?  If so, y'all won't get a shot at us because y'all would go D1 and we will go D2.  That's the bad thing about having a # next to your name...  That ranking makes sure you get everybody's best shot.  Teams circle that game...
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I still have nightmares of the second have last year. It doesnt have a circle it has a X on it this year.
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The rematch isn't garunteed...  We both have to get through our first round games first.
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Your right and i know your heard about our RB #1 JD getting hurt. He should be back by then but Da Broncs arent the same without him