catfever Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 Lost a lot. Depends on what transfers from Port Arthur they got. You never know about that.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 Sabine Pass is 2A or 3A. I didn't realize they had kids from PA transferring there until last year when I met a young man and he told me some PA students attend.
True Blue Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 Dove Sabine Pass Is a 1a team..And after the storm the UIL has allowed kids that live in PA to transfer. Not realy fair for the reat of the schools in 1a but thats the UIL for you. So if a kid is not quite good enough to make the 5a PM they can go to SP and be a star. So no one knows what they have this year untill the first game ;D But with what they lost last year I only see them finishing 3 or 4 in this dist.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 [quote name="True Blue" post="906893" timestamp="1289666728"]Dove Sabine Pass Is a 1a team..And after the storm the UIL has allowed kids that live in PA to transfer. Not realy fair for the reat of the schools in 1a but thats the UIL for you. So if a kid is not quite good enough to make the 5a PM they can go to SP and be a star. So no one knows what they have this year untill the first game ;D But with what they lost last year I only see them finishing 3 or 4 in this dist.[/quote]Thanks True, didn't realize the ruling after the storm.
brandonbec4 Posted November 13, 2010 Author Report Posted November 13, 2010 Actually Sabine has always allowed transfers. Sabine isnt the only school in district that allows them either.
whsalum Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 TrueBlue your interpretation of UIL rules never ceases to amaze me. Most schools in Southeast Texas allow transfers. Some charge a fee for kids that don't live in the district.Here's where you continue to miss the boat, the kids can not be cleared to play any sport unless they live in the district or they are released by their old school.They can file a waiver with the UIL if they aren't released but very few of these are granted.One more misconception is that kids that can't play at Memorial can become stars at a small school.If a kid can play, he can play ,if he can't he will be average no matter where he goes.Sabine Pass will face the same challenges this year as any school that graduates 3 or 4 of their best players and that is replacing points.I think they will be in the same district as they have been in and I don't see them beating Evadale or BS this year.They could play HD and WH pretty close for 3rd.JMO
Head Coach Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 [quote name="whsalum" post="907114" timestamp="1289676570"]TrueBlue your interpretation of UIL rules never ceases to amaze me. Most schools in Southeast Texas allow transfers. Some charge a fee for kids that don't live in the district.Here's where you continue to miss the boat, the kids can not be cleared to play any sport unless they live in the district or they are released by their old school.They can file a waiver with the UIL if they aren't released but very few of these are granted.One more misconception is that kids that can't play at Memorial can become stars at a small school.If a kid can play, he can play ,if he can't he will be average no matter where he goes.Sabine Pass will face the same challenges this year as any school that graduates 3 or 4 of their best players and that is replacing points.I think they will be in the same district as they have been in and I don't see them beating Evadale or BS this year.They could play HD and WH pretty close for 3rd.JMO[/quote]Absolutely right, all the post about transfers is just ridiculous. It doesn't matter where you come from, if you are enrolled then you can play. It is always these people who grow up in small schools and communities that complain about TRANSFERS. For those who grow up and stay in a small school/community, goodluck in the real world. P.S. The storm had nothing to do with the rule change
Head Coach Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 As for Sabine, they will compete for second.
True Blue Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 There are not 100 homes left in SP. SO the rules for any kid living in the Dist. was changed after the storm. That is the difference in transfers and kids that live in the dist.And it is not a misconception about a kid that could not make the starting team in PM playing a big part in a smaller school. Dont forget that there were 3 very good schools that were turned into one. So there are some real good players not getting playing time in PA. And with the open door in SP why would a kid not take that chance?? I am not saying anything is wrong with it thats just the case. But I know that there are a lot of coaches that dont like it. ;)
Head Coach Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 [quote name="True Blue" post="907255" timestamp="1289681539"]There are not 100 homes left in SP. SO the rules for any kid living in the Dist. was changed after the storm. That is the difference in transfers and kids that live in the dist.And it is not a misconception about a kid that could not make the starting team in PM playing a big part in a smaller school. Dont forget that there were 3 very good schools that were turned into one. So there are some real good players not getting playing time in PA. And with the open door in SP why would a kid not take that chance?? I am not saying anything is wrong with it thats just the case. But I know that there are a lot of coaches that dont like it. ;) [/quote]Three schools?????Lincoln and TJ and ..........
True Blue Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 [quote name="Head Coach" post="907248" timestamp="1289681371"][quote author=whsalum link=topic=75999.msg907114#msg907114 date=1289676570]TrueBlue your interpretation of UIL rules never ceases to amaze me. Most schools in Southeast Texas allow transfers. Some charge a fee for kids that don't live in the district.Here's where you continue to miss the boat, the kids can not be cleared to play any sport unless they live in the district or they are released by their old school.They can file a waiver with the UIL if they aren't released but very few of these are granted.One more misconception is that kids that can't play at Memorial can become stars at a small school.If a kid can play, he can play ,if he can't he will be average no matter where he goes.Sabine Pass will face the same challenges this year as any school that graduates 3 or 4 of their best players and that is replacing points.I think they will be in the same district as they have been in and I don't see them beating Evadale or BS this year.They could play HD and WH pretty close for 3rd.JMO[/quote]Absolutely right, all the post about transfers is just ridiculous. It doesn't matter where you come from, if you are enrolled then you can play. It is always these [color=red]people who grow up in small schools and communities that complain about TRANSFERS[/color]. For those who grow up and stay in a small school/community, goodluck in the real world. P.S. The storm had nothing to do with the rule change[/quote] I seem to have read were a kid that is TRansfering to YATES is not getting to play And I dont think that Houston Yates is that small of a communitie
True Blue Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 [quote name="Head Coach" post="907266" timestamp="1289681711"][quote author=True Blue link=topic=75999.msg907255#msg907255 date=1289681539]There are not 100 homes left in SP. SO the rules for any kid living in the Dist. was changed after the storm. That is the difference in transfers and kids that live in the dist.And it is not a misconception about a kid that could not make the starting team in PM playing a big part in a smaller school. Dont forget that there were 3 very good schools that were turned into one. So there are some real good players not getting playing time in PA. And with the open door in SP why would a kid not take that chance?? I am not saying anything is wrong with it thats just the case. But I know that there are a lot of coaches that dont like it. ;) [/quote]Three schools?????Lincoln and TJ and ..........[/quote]Port Acres, Steven F Austin I think they were a 3a team
Head Coach Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 SFA, i didn't know that they were a part of the merge, now a middle school.
1880 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 [quote name="True Blue" post="906893" timestamp="1289666728"]Dove Sabine Pass Is a 1a team..And after the storm the UIL has allowed kids that live in PA to transfer. Not realy fair for the reat of the schools in 1a but thats the UIL for you. So if a kid is not quite good enough to make the 5a PM they can go to SP and be a star. So no one knows what they have this year untill the first game ;D But with what they lost last year I only see them finishing 3 or 4 in this dist.[/quote]The other thing about the kids transfering to Sabine Pass, is that they have to meet a very high standard in terms of attendance, discipline and TAKS scores. So not all of those kids who want to transfer get to get in. SP coaches have told alot of people about those standards. If you don't believe this ask one of the coaches.
True Blue Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 Yea just think about it 7 kids from each school trying to make 1 team ??That is why I cant understand why PM is not a power house in there Dist??
True Blue Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 Please dont get me wrong I for ONE see nothing wrong for moving to get more playing time, or a better chance to get seen by a collage coach. I was just posting on a question that someone else asked. I think it is great that SP is still trying to be a indepentent school Dist. and not sending there kids to PA.
apiolar Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 most of the kids at sp that are transfers have been there since middle school. once sfa went from being a high school to a middle school kids started going to sabine pass. and blue evadale gets kids from buna, vidor, lcm, and silsbee, heck prolly even lumberton. so it shouldnt be a big deal.
True Blue Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 [quote name="apiolar" post="907426" timestamp="1289685948"]most of the kids at sp that are transfers have been there since middle school. once sfa went from being a high school to a middle school kids started going to sabine pass. and blue evadale gets kids from buna, vidor, lcm, and silsbee, heck prolly even lumberton. so it shouldnt be a big deal.[/quote] Read my post I said I HAVE NO PROB WITH IT I think a kid should be able to play were ever they wont. Were I said that its not fair to other 1a schools is % of kids transfer. I know Evadale has transfers just not that many. They trun down alot each year.
apiolar Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 it seems like everytime sabine pass is mentioned someone brings up memorial
HoopInsider_Cooper Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 [font=Courier]The UIL does approve most transfers to Sabine Pass after the 15-day rule. [/font]
True Blue Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 Who else other than Memorail are they going to bring up?? There are no schools in the Gulf Of Mexico
whsalum Posted November 14, 2010 Report Posted November 14, 2010 I still stick to my guns about being a super star.Just because you transfer to a smaller school doesn't make you a super star.Your skill level will determine how much recognition you get.You may get more playing time at a small school but if you don't have the skills you will just be an average player.How many times should you let a kid transfer for more playing time? There are no guarantees he is going to get anymore playing time, what then?The UIL does a good job of attempting to keep folks honest which is what they are there to do.If a player has the skill to play college ball he will get some opportunities,the size of the opportunity will be directly related to the level of skill.
True Blue Posted November 14, 2010 Report Posted November 14, 2010 Here is my take... The Point Guard for Spuger is the best in 1a and will get plenty of exposure by making the playoff in 1a.. If he was to play at HJ, Silsbee, WOS, he would not be the starter, so playing at the smaller school is in his favor. But maybe super star is not the wright word, but playing at the small schools is still playing and not setting the bench.
no-look Posted November 14, 2010 Report Posted November 14, 2010 [quote name="whsalum" post="907809" timestamp="1289696932"]I still stick to my guns about being a super star.Just because you transfer to a smaller school doesn't make you a super star.Your skill level will determine how much recognition you get.You may get more playing time at a small school but if you don't have the skills you will just be an average player.How many times should you let a kid transfer for more playing time? There are no guarantees he is going to get anymore playing time, what then?The UIL does a good job of attempting to keep folks honest which is what they are there to do.If a player has the skill to play college ball he will get some opportunities,the size of the opportunity will be directly related to the level of skill.[/quote] wh, if you decide to run for office, I will vote for you.....
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