wbfan Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 [quote name="AggiesWeAreNot" post="915981" timestamp="1290384023"]Until BISD changes its ways this will be a common theme. They keep running families out of Beaumont so you will see the Lumberton's Nederland's Bridge City's and PNG's of the world continue to improve and see BISD schools continue to disappoint.[/quote]Um, what are you talking about? You are obviously trolling and nobody is taking the bait. WB and Central have both been on the rise these past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 [quote name="SFA85" post="916012" timestamp="1290386104"][quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=76402.msg915994#msg915994 date=1290385117][quote author=AggiesWeAreNot link=topic=76402.msg915981#msg915981 date=1290384023]Until BISD changes its ways this will be a common theme. They keep running families out of Beaumont so you will see the Lumberton's Nederland's Bridge City's and PNG's of the world continue to improve and see BISD schools continue to disappoint.[/quote]What the heck are you talking about? Did you even manage to read any of this stuff? Who's running out of BISD? Enrollment is doing good. As I said, this have nothing to do with the current topic... ::) ::)[/quote]Wow, this is turning into a CBT hate thread. Well hate on hater. As long as the UIL continues to let everybody in the playoffs, the PN-G's Neds, Lumbertons of the world have a shot of getting in. If you want not only to win on Fridays but play on Saturdays and maybe Sundays, you send your kid to BISD or PAISD......2007 - 2008: 19277 2008 - 2009: 19309 2009 - 2010: 19551 BISD enrollment for the past 3 years Haters.....[/quote]First of all, how did one single post declare this to be a CBT hate thread? Oh, SFA85 declared that. ;DI agree, that "one post" has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besbolbenbedygud Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 [quote name="SFA85" post="916012" timestamp="1290386104"][quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=76402.msg915994#msg915994 date=1290385117][quote author=AggiesWeAreNot link=topic=76402.msg915981#msg915981 date=1290384023]Until BISD changes its ways this will be a common theme. They keep running families out of Beaumont so you will see the Lumberton's Nederland's Bridge City's and PNG's of the world continue to improve and see BISD schools continue to disappoint.[/quote]What the heck are you talking about? Did you even manage to read any of this stuff? Who's running out of BISD? Enrollment is doing good. As I said, this have nothing to do with the current topic... ::) ::)[/quote]Wow, this is turning into a CBT hate thread. Well hate on hater. As long as the UIL continues to let everybody in the playoffs, the PN-G's Neds, Lumbertons of the world have a shot of getting in. If you want not only to win on Fridays but play on Saturdays and maybe Sundays, you send your kid to BISD or PAISD......2007 - 2008: 19277 2008 - 2009: 19309 2009 - 2010: 19551 BISD enrollment for the past 3 years Haters.....[/quote]wow....a shot at getting in.....hmmm.... PA has the UIL to think for still playing next week...lol 2 and 3??21-5A Dist. Team(ADM) W LGalena Park North Shore(4416) 5 0La Porte(2278) 4 1Beaumont West Brook(2467) 3 2[b]Port Arthur Memorial[/b](2460) [b]2 3[/b]Channelview(22 1 4Baytown Sterling(2338) 0 5Sending your kids to BISD or PA does not guarantee a Saturday or Sunday gig either... The ones that are fortunate enough, and talented enough, to get those spots still make up a small percent from the ones that don't...... and attend the same school...lol to funny!It's been a while but 85 your still one of my favorite posters.......lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeroturn Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I am proud of the Bruins sometime its just not your day also this team secondary was never @ 100% we had a safety with torn acl he imo never the same caliber of player prior to injury, a corner had a torn achilles never the same, the other safety lle injury the same safety that ran down central best backlast year also lost 2 good tackles had to move a d.e. in middle ,the center was never ever close too full strentgh imo considering i think we done welland far as coaching goes you can do better also you can do worse Great season Bruins...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh89-2 Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 PRETENDERS. That Trinity River got your tails again I see. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ranger83 Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/hso/7304349.htmlMaybe he should have just wished them good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EAGLE07 Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 [quote name="82 5A State Champs" post="915110" timestamp="1290310427"]Sorry to say, Todd, I was there. Pearland is good, I'm not denying that. But they aren't 51-22 good over West Brook....normally. We have played better against better teams. [b]Mark my words, if Pearland makes it to the Region 3 final against Katy, Katy will crush them[/b]! They are beatable!!! We just didn't show up and execute. No two ways about it. This WB team played poorly today. We never had an opportunity to be competitive. They did some things that made us make some adjustments in the 2nd quarter. The problem is, we never made those adjustments. Just sayin.[/quote]a little bitter are we ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82 5A State Champs Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 [quote name="bh89-2" post="916328" timestamp="1290429330"]PRETENDERS. That Trinity River got your tails again I see. ;)[/quote]Hey, at least we didn't get beat in the first round like another team I know of. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82 5A State Champs Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 [quote name="EAGLE07" post="916553" timestamp="1290450354"][quote author=82 5A State Champs link=topic=76402.msg915110#msg915110 date=1290310427]Sorry to say, Todd, I was there. Pearland is good, I'm not denying that. But they aren't 51-22 good over West Brook....normally. We have played better against better teams. [b]Mark my words, if Pearland makes it to the Region 3 final against Katy, Katy will crush them[/b]! They are beatable!!! We just didn't show up and execute. No two ways about it. This WB team played poorly today. We never had an opportunity to be competitive. They did some things that made us make some adjustments in the 2nd quarter. The problem is, we never made those adjustments. Just sayin.[/quote]a little bitter are we ???[/quote]No sir. Just stating the obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtRey Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 ...until you've played the game, coached the game and lived thru both, just shut your holes and take up another sport....really. you guys don't know what the hec your talkin about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82 5A State Champs Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 [quote name="Sgt Rey" post="917073" timestamp="1290485846"]...until you've played the game, coached the game and lived thru both, just shut your holes and take up another sport....really. you guys don't know what the hec your talkin about.[/quote]SIR, YES SIR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofthegame7 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 [quote name="82 5A State Champs" post="916809" timestamp="1290469909"][quote author=EAGLE07 link=topic=76402.msg916553#msg916553 date=1290450354][quote author=82 5A State Champs link=topic=76402.msg915110#msg915110 date=1290310427]Sorry to say, Todd, I was there. Pearland is good, I'm not denying that. But they aren't 51-22 good over West Brook....normally. We have played better against better teams. [b]Mark my words, if Pearland makes it to the Region 3 final against Katy, Katy will crush them[/b]! They are beatable!!! We just didn't show up and execute. No two ways about it. This WB team played poorly today. We never had an opportunity to be competitive. They did some things that made us make some adjustments in the 2nd quarter. The problem is,[b] we never made those adjustments. Just sayin.[b][/quote]a little bitter are we ???[/quote]No sir. Just stating the obvious.[/quote]nevermind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westendfirst Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 [quote name="82 5A State Champs" post="916809" timestamp="1290469909"][quote author=EAGLE07 link=topic=76402.msg916553#msg916553 date=1290450354][quote author=82 5A State Champs link=topic=76402.msg915110#msg915110 date=1290310427]Sorry to say, Todd, I was there. Pearland is good, I'm not denying that. But they aren't 51-22 good over West Brook....normally. We have played better against better teams. [b]Mark my words, if Pearland makes it to the Region 3 final against Katy, Katy will crush them[/b]! They are beatable!!! We just didn't show up and execute. No two ways about it. This WB team played poorly today. We never had an opportunity to be competitive. They did some things that made us make some adjustments in the 2nd quarter. The problem is, we never made those adjustments. Just sayin.[/quote]a little bitter are we ???[/quote]No sir. Just stating the obvious[/quote]Still living in 1982 I see. Those days are long gone and will not return until butch independent school district changes its ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westendfirst Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 [quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="915994" timestamp="1290385117"][quote author=AggiesWeAreNot link=topic=76402.msg915981#msg915981 date=1290384023]Until BISD changes its ways this will be a common theme. They keep running families out of Beaumont so you will see the Lumberton's Nederland's Bridge City's and PNG's of the world continue to improve and see BISD schools continue to disappoint.[/quote]What the heck are you talking about? Did you even manage to read any of this stuff? Who's running out of BISD? Enrollment is doing good. As I said, this have nothing to do with the current topic... ::) ::)[/quote]Denial isn't a river in egypt. Bisd enrollment has been flat for over twenty years. As for who is moving out of the district, surely you aren't that ignorant? All of the white people are leaving bisd. It started with the great ping pong ball debacle of 1980. Slowed in the early 90's with the promise of neighborhood schools. And has picked back up again under the watch of the current superintendent and board. Since you are in total denial, look at the white enrollment in bisd. It is around 15% now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 [quote name="AggiesWeAreNot" post="919734" timestamp="1290830151"][quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=76402.msg915994#msg915994 date=1290385117][quote author=AggiesWeAreNot link=topic=76402.msg915981#msg915981 date=1290384023]Until BISD changes its ways this will be a common theme. They keep running families out of Beaumont so you will see the Lumberton's Nederland's Bridge City's and PNG's of the world continue to improve and see BISD schools continue to disappoint.[/quote]What the heck are you talking about? Did you even manage to read any of this stuff? Who's running out of BISD? Enrollment is doing good. As I said, this have nothing to do with the current topic... ::) ::)[/quote]Denial isn't a river in egypt. Bisd enrollment has been flat for over twenty years. As for who is moving out of the district, surely you aren't that ignorant? All of the white people are leaving bisd. It started with the great ping pong ball debacle of 1980. Slowed in the early 90's with the promise of neighborhood schools. And has picked back up again under the watch of the current superintendent and board. Since you are in total denial, look at the white enrollment in bisd. It is around 15% now! [/quote]Your still not proving a point... Just sound like a bitter and ignorant individual... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 [quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="919855" timestamp="1290845467"][quote author=AggiesWeAreNot link=topic=76402.msg919734#msg919734 date=1290830151][quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=76402.msg915994#msg915994 date=1290385117][quote author=AggiesWeAreNot link=topic=76402.msg915981#msg915981 date=1290384023]Until BISD changes its ways this will be a common theme. They keep running families out of Beaumont so you will see the Lumberton's Nederland's Bridge City's and PNG's of the world continue to improve and see BISD schools continue to disappoint.[/quote]What the heck are you talking about? Did you even manage to read any of this stuff? Who's running out of BISD? Enrollment is doing good. As I said, this have nothing to do with the current topic... ::) ::)[/quote]Denial isn't a river in egypt. Bisd enrollment has been flat for over twenty years. As for who is moving out of the district, surely you aren't that ignorant? All of the white people are leaving bisd. It started with the great ping pong ball debacle of 1980. Slowed in the early 90's with the promise of neighborhood schools. And has picked back up again under the watch of the current superintendent and board. Since you are in total denial, look at the white enrollment in bisd. It is around 15% now! [/quote]Your still not proving a point... Just sound like a bitter and ignorant individual...[/quote] :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd814 Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 [quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="919855" timestamp="1290845467"][quote author=AggiesWeAreNot link=topic=76402.msg919734#msg919734 date=1290830151][quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=76402.msg915994#msg915994 date=1290385117][quote author=AggiesWeAreNot link=topic=76402.msg915981#msg915981 date=1290384023]Until BISD changes its ways this will be a common theme. They keep running families out of Beaumont so you will see the Lumberton's Nederland's Bridge City's and PNG's of the world continue to improve and see BISD schools continue to disappoint.[/quote]What the heck are you talking about? Did you even manage to read any of this stuff? Who's running out of BISD? Enrollment is doing good. As I said, this have nothing to do with the current topic... ::) ::)[/quote]Denial isn't a river in egypt. Bisd enrollment has been flat for over twenty years. As for who is moving out of the district, surely you aren't that ignorant? All of the white people are leaving bisd. It started with the great ping pong ball debacle of 1980. Slowed in the early 90's with the promise of neighborhood schools. And has picked back up again under the watch of the current superintendent and board. Since you are in total denial, look at the white enrollment in bisd. It is around 15% now! [/quote]Your still not proving a point... Just sound like a bitter and ignorant individual...[/quote]So the non white increase of students in Nederland, PNG, BC, and Lumberton is due to the white people leaving BISD? Or due to the current board and superintendent in BISD? Crime rate might scare them. Couldnt be any other reason or could it? Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westendfirst Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 [quote name="Scooter!" post="919858" timestamp="1290846496"][quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=76402.msg919855#msg919855 date=1290845467][quote author=AggiesWeAreNot link=topic=76402.msg919734#msg919734 date=1290830151][quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=76402.msg915994#msg915994 date=1290385117][quote author=AggiesWeAreNot link=topic=76402.msg915981#msg915981 date=1290384023]Until BISD changes its ways this will be a common theme. They keep running families out of Beaumont so you will see the Lumberton's Nederland's Bridge City's and PNG's of the world continue to improve and see BISD schools continue to disappoint.[/quote]What the heck are you talking about? Did you even manage to read any of this stuff? Who's running out of BISD? Enrollment is doing good. As I said, this have nothing to do with the current topic... ::) ::)[/quote]Denial isn't a river in egypt. Bisd enrollment has been flat for over twenty years. As for who is moving out of the district, surely you aren't that ignorant? All of the white people are leaving bisd. It started with the great ping pong ball debacle of 1980. Slowed in the early 90's with the promise of neighborhood schools. And has picked back up again under the watch of the current superintendent and board. Since you are in total denial, look at the white enrollment in bisd. It is around 15% now! [/quote]Your still not proving a point... Just sound like a bitter and ignorant individual...[/quote] :D[/quote] Bitter, yes. Ignorant, far from it. Just stating facts. When I see my hometown being ruined and turned into another port arthur how can I not be bitter? When I see reverse discrimination running rampant in the city and totally out of control in bisd how can I not be bitter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westendfirst Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 [quote name="mfd814" post="920098" timestamp="1290882489"][quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=76402.msg919855#msg919855 date=1290845467][quote author=AggiesWeAreNot link=topic=76402.msg919734#msg919734 date=1290830151][quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=76402.msg915994#msg915994 date=1290385117][quote author=AggiesWeAreNot link=topic=76402.msg915981#msg915981 date=1290384023]Until BISD changes its ways this will be a common theme. They keep running families out of Beaumont so you will see the Lumberton's Nederland's Bridge City's and PNG's of the world continue to improve and see BISD schools continue to disappoint.[/quote]What the heck are you talking about? Did you even manage to read any of this stuff? Who's running out of BISD? Enrollment is doing good. As I said, this have nothing to do with the current topic... ::) ::)[/quote]Denial isn't a river in egypt. Bisd enrollment has been flat for over twenty years. As for who is moving out of the district, surely you aren't that ignorant? All of the white people are leaving bisd. It started with the great ping pong ball debacle of 1980. Slowed in the early 90's with the promise of neighborhood schools. And has picked back up again under the watch of the current superintendent and board. Since you are in total denial, look at the white enrollment in bisd. It is around 15% now! [/quote]Your still not proving a point... Just sound like a bitter and ignorant individual...[/quote]So the non white increase of students in Nederland, PNG, BC, and Lumberton is due to the white people leaving BISD? Or due to the current board and superintendent in BISD? Crime rate might scare them. Couldnt be any other reason or could it? Thoughts? [/quote]so are you trying to say those cities haven't seen white people relocating their from beaumont? So the fact that lumberton has grown from about 2000 people to over 10000 since the mid 80's is because of the 4 or 5 black people that'd live there? The blacks in nederland are likely there because of rita and blacks leaving port arthur. I imagine some are from beaumont too. There is a relatively large group of blacks that do not want to go to school at predominantly black schools. All of beaumont and port arthur's schools are either all black or predominantly black. So there are no longer predominantly white schools for them to attend. In any event, white kids have not been given a chance to fairly participate in 'black' sports in beaumont. Consequently, bisd loses good families who may also have very talented kids to other school districts. I know my comments aren't politically correct but that doesn't mean they aren't true. If you look back at the 1982 wb team you will see that it was loaded with very talented black AND white players. The french team also had some talented white kids. Since the early 80's there has been a "to hell with the white people" attitude/movement led by people like paul brown and howard trahan. This has picked up dream again with the current bisd superintendent and board of trustees. If you don't think this has negatvely impacted athletics in beaumont then you would be ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFA85 Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 [quote name="AggiesWeAreNot" post="920805" timestamp="1290914458"][quote author=mfd814 link=topic=76402.msg920098#msg920098 date=1290882489][quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=76402.msg919855#msg919855 date=1290845467][quote author=AggiesWeAreNot link=topic=76402.msg919734#msg919734 date=1290830151][quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=76402.msg915994#msg915994 date=1290385117][quote author=AggiesWeAreNot link=topic=76402.msg915981#msg915981 date=1290384023]Until BISD changes its ways this will be a common theme. They keep running families out of Beaumont so you will see the Lumberton's Nederland's Bridge City's and PNG's of the world continue to improve and see BISD schools continue to disappoint.[/quote]What the heck are you talking about? Did you even manage to read any of this stuff? Who's running out of BISD? Enrollment is doing good. As I said, this have nothing to do with the current topic... ::) ::)[/quote]Denial isn't a river in egypt. Bisd enrollment has been flat for over twenty years. As for who is moving out of the district, surely you aren't that ignorant? All of the white people are leaving bisd. It started with the great ping pong ball debacle of 1980. Slowed in the early 90's with the promise of neighborhood schools. And has picked back up again under the watch of the current superintendent and board. Since you are in total denial, look at the white enrollment in bisd. It is around 15% now! [/quote]Your still not proving a point... Just sound like a bitter and ignorant individual...[/quote]So the non white increase of students in Nederland, PNG, BC, and Lumberton is due to the white people leaving BISD? Or due to the current board and superintendent in BISD? Crime rate might scare them. Couldnt be any other reason or could it? Thoughts? [/quote]so are you trying to say those cities haven't seen white people relocating their from beaumont? So the fact that lumberton has grown from about 2000 people to over 10000 since the mid 80's is because of the 4 or 5 black people that'd live there? The blacks in nederland are likely there because of rita and blacks leaving port arthur. I imagine some are from beaumont too. There is a relatively large group of blacks that do not want to go to school at predominantly black schools. All of beaumont and port arthur's schools are either all black or predominantly black. So there are no longer predominantly white schools for them to attend. In any event, white kids have not been given a chance to fairly participate in 'black' sports in beaumont. Consequently, bisd loses good families who may also have very talented kids to other school districts. I know my comments aren't politically correct but that doesn't mean they aren't true. If you look back at the 1982 wb team you will see that it was loaded with very talented black AND white players. The french team also had some talented white kids. Since the early 80's there has been a "to heck with the white people" attitude/movement led by people like paul brown and howard trahan. This has picked up dream again with the current bisd superintendent and board of trustees. If you don't think this has negatvely impacted athletics in beaumont then you would be ignorant.[/quote]Yeah right......That '82 WB team had 3 starters from Forest Park. You're right about that French team but to say White kids are/were being denied in so-called 'Black Sports' is ludicris. West Enders are just sorry @football and basketball so they attend Kelly and Legacy if they stay here and the HF's and H-J's of the world if they don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd814 Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Hmmmm which sports are "black sports" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd814 Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 I do agree there is a problem with athletics in Beaumont, have seen it. Lots of politics involved, as to who coaches where. I just don't blame the school board or superintendent for it. There are other people IMO more at fault. You commented that all of the white people are leaving BISD. I asked about the non white who are going to the other schools. I believe adding a little color to your team, always helps. Could that be part of the reason for some of those teams success, or is it the talented white kids that left BISD? And you right it isn't politically correct, but it is what it is. Should have its own post, not here at the WB/Pearland post as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82 5A State Champs Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 That '82 WB team had 3 starters from Forest Park.There were more than that. Keith Zoch, Burnice Wilson, and Johnny Norwood are the onle three that come to mind, but there were more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeedBegone Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 Weed Be Back now. Decided to post on this thread before it gets locked up. I have been out a couple of weeks on business and vacation. I missed the Pearland game because i had to be out of town. Congrats to all Da brook players for entertaining me with their great talents. sorry it ended this way, but as SGT said earlier, there is something to gain even out of a loss. I also want to add my appreciation for the coaching staff and other support given to these kids during the season, especially for the fans who stay positive through thick and thin. Without any intentions to get into a p***ing match with outsiders ----it is a priviledge again to have my kids go through the WB programs, to have a wife and daughter teaching there, and to be asked for my 10th year in a row to represent the WB Band tomorrow in my big fat red and white outfit as they travel to the assisted living centers to bring the joy of Christmas season to the elderly and various challenged people within our great community. While i am sure that the other area High schools enjoy similar opportunities, I am quite proud to be a part of this one. Let us all try harder to back off the naughty and focus on the nice for the rest of this season----cause I'll be watching and making a list ;) :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtRey Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 [quote name="WeedBegone" post="925221" timestamp="1291422190"]Weed Be Back now. Decided to post on this thread before it gets locked up. I have been out a couple of weeks on business and vacation. I missed the Pearland game because i had to be out of town. Congrats to all Da brook players for entertaining me with their great talents. sorry it ended this way, but as SGT said earlier, there is something to gain even out of a loss. I also want to add my appreciation for the coaching staff and other support given to these kids during the season, especially for the fans who stay positive through thick and thin. Without any intentions to get into a p***ing match with outsiders ----it is a priviledge again to have my kids go through the WB programs, to have a wife and daughter teaching there, and to be asked for my 10th year in a row to represent the WB Band tomorrow in my big fat red and white outfit as they travel to the assisted living centers to bring the joy of Christmas season to the elderly and various challenged people within our great community. While i am sure that the other area High schools enjoy similar opportunities, I am quite proud to be a part of this one. Let us all try harder to back off the naughty and focus on the nice for the rest of this season----cause I'll be watching and making a list ;) :D[/quote]Well said SANTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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