sleepy Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name="team first" post="958805" timestamp="1296588178"]Seen him play, not best 10-15 in the state. Not strong enough, can't put it on floor good enough, does not defend 1on1 well enough. Has potential to be very good! Alot of good kids in the state..Top 50???????? Who knows, good for our area, yes! We've got to get out more. H.J. likes him.[/quote]He is definitely a top 10-15 freshman in the state in 3A. That is a fact!
stevenash Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name="team first" post="958805" timestamp="1296588178"]Seen him play, not best 10-15 in the state. Not strong enough, can't put it on floor good enough, does not defend 1on1 well enough. Has potential to be very good! Alot of good kids in the state..Top 50???????? Who knows, good for our area, yes! We've got to get out more. H.J. likes him.[/quote]Tough to evaluate a kid unless you have seen all the top players multiple times and I don't know many who have the time and/or inclination to do so. Also tough to judge a kids ability to defend one on one when his team uses a trapping zone defense. Perhaps he "doesn't put in on the floor" good enough because the team objective does not call for that and hence, not much practice at doing so. If you are 6'4" at age 15, there is a good chance you haven't reached your peak in terms of co-ordination and mental toughness. I would guess that would apply to a number of 15 year olds who are good enough to be starting for their respective varsities. I will happily pay him this compliment- He has the intellect to realize that he should play within himself (and within the team objective) and not get caught up in the oft mistaken tendencies of some to define how well they play by the number no look passes and triple pump layups they execute or possibly try to execute.
team first Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 Sorry, sleepy, wake up..best fresh in 3a in state..Maybe...but thats not what was said...Now thats a fact, not an opinion!!!!!!!!
Bobcat1 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 Depends on who you ask, can't say his opinion is wrong because your OPINION is right. ::)
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name="stevenash" post="958819" timestamp="1296588686"][quote author=team first link=topic=76916.msg958805#msg958805 date=1296588178]Seen him play, not best 10-15 in the state. Not strong enough, can't put it on floor good enough, does not defend 1on1 well enough. Has potential to be very good! Alot of good kids in the state..Top 50???????? Who knows, good for our area, yes! We've got to get out more. H.J. likes him.[/quote]Tough to evaluate a kid unless you have seen all the top players multiple times and I don't know many who have the time and/or inclination to do so. Also tough to judge a kids ability to defend one on one when his team uses a trapping zone defense. Perhaps he "doesn't put in on the floor" good enough because the team objective does not call for that and hence, not much practice at doing so. If you are 6'4" at age 15, there is a good chance you haven't reached your peak in terms of co-ordination and mental toughness. I would guess that would apply to a number of 15 year olds who are good enough to be starting for their respective varsities. I will happily pay him this compliment- He has the intellect to realize that he should play within himself (and within the team objective) and not get caught up in the oft mistaken tendencies of some to define how well they play by the number no look passes and triple pump layups they execute or possibly try to execute.[/quote]HJ has a good system for their kids, I agree. ;D
bullets13 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name="team first" post="958825" timestamp="1296588734"]Sorry, sleepy, wake up..best fresh in 3a in state..Maybe...but thats not what was said...Now thats a fact, not an opinion!!!!!!!![/quote]I would argue Bosha's a top-5 freshman in the state in 3A. that being said, i have no factual evidence to base that on other than his impressive stats, his length, and his ability to shoot the ball.
stevenash Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name="Bobcat05" post="958827" timestamp="1296588807"]Depends on who you ask, can't say his opinion is wrong because your OPINION is right. ::)[/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name="Bobcat05" post="958827" timestamp="1296588807"]Depends on who you ask, can't say his opinion is wrong because your OPINION is right. ::)[/quote]Doesn't really matter because in the end the 2014 class, including guards, wings, etc will be thrown into the same circle in 2013 and 2014 college scouting reports. ;)
Lazeek Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 Dove you have tons of faith in the young upcoming players from HF, but you have no faith in the coaching that goes on over there!!!! Is the coach changing or is the scenery changing for the Dove???? ;D ;D
Guest speechless Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 aint nobody on here qualified to determine how he ranks in the statenow that is a FACT!
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name="speechless" post="958842" timestamp="1296589471"]aint nobody on here qualified to determine how he ranks in the statenow that is a FACT![/quote]Hmmm?
PoppaBearstarr Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 HJ is going to win tonight.... :D
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name="LAZEEK" post="958841" timestamp="1296589382"]Dove you have tons of faith in the young upcoming players from HF, but you have no faith in the coaching that goes on over there!!!! Is the coach changing or is the scenery changing for the Dove???? ;D ;D[/quote]LOL!
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name="speechless" post="958842" timestamp="1296589471"]aint nobody on here qualified to determine how he ranks in the statenow that is a FACT![/quote]I could give you 30-40 names from the Houston area (a fact) and about 30+ just from Dallas area (opinion) ;)
sleepy Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name="speechless" post="958842" timestamp="1296589471"]aint nobody on here qualified to determine how he ranks in the statenow that is a FACT![/quote]you don't belong here. This is a bunch of guys that know nothing. Get out!!!!!!!!!!!!
Honest Abe Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name="cbosha" post="958683" timestamp="1296581062"]Um... sir, he does hit 90% of his freethrows. What planet are you living on? NBA players have excellent freethrow stats.[/quote]Um sir, no they do not! Which NBA r U watching?? There may be 5-6 players (out of over 300 players) in the NBA who shoot btr than 90%. If this kid makes 9/10 then he's a phenom. He's prob closer to 80% in reality- which is still excellent. The best FT shooter i've seen this year is Dotey from PN-G. He's likely shooting in the 80-85% range (no I don't have the facts to back that up).
Guest speechless Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 [quote]I could give you 30-40 names from the Houston area (a fact) and about 30+ just from Dallas area (opinion) [/quote]name dropper
stevenash Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 DOVE- out of those thirty, how many have u seen play several times? Surely u aren't simply reading from a ratings sheet, are you?
AggiesAreWe Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name="stevenash" post="958918" timestamp="1296593191"]DOVE- out of those thirty, how many have u seen play several times? Surely u aren't simply reading from a ratings sheet, are you?[/quote] ;) ;D
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name="stevenash" post="958918" timestamp="1296593191"]DOVE- out of those thirty, how many have u seen play several times? Surely u aren't simply reading from a ratings sheet, are you?[/quote]The Houston kids? Been watching these kids for four years ;) The Dallas kids would be my OPINION,as I stated earlier ;)
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name="cbosha" post="958940" timestamp="1296594746"]Dove how do your kids rank?[/quote]I don't rank kids. But there are several rankings for them and you know which ones are pretty close after awhile. I've seen these kids for 4 years or more and know what they can do and their weaknesses. ;)
Guest cbosha Posted February 2, 2011 Report Posted February 2, 2011 I agree Nash, and Bosha is just 14.
Guest cbosha Posted February 2, 2011 Report Posted February 2, 2011 Bluedove is a Bosha hater!!!!!!!!!!!!
texas13 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Posted February 2, 2011 [quote name="cbosha" post="959772" timestamp="1296666838"]Bluedove is a Bosha hater!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]he is jealous cause the kid has talent
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