Time for Roc to go?

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="pngtiger72" post="960173" timestamp="1296689662"]
You guys need to be realistic BCG isnt coming neither is Bob Knight or Coach K.
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Are you suggesting that it would take a Bob Knight or a Coach K to be able to replace Roc?

I know you are so fond of him? ;) Being kin does that to ya. ;D

[Lazeek]

[quote name="pngtiger72" post="960173" timestamp="1296689662"]
You guys need to be realistic BCG isnt coming neither is Bob Knight or Coach K.
[/quote]

Only person that needs to be realistic is YOU.........everyone else on this board agrees that ROC SUCKS!!!!!!  Get the picture!!!

[puddin tane]

Bobby Cremmins!..surely we can match the college of charelston....

[puddin tane]

Mark Gottfried

[BIGREDFAN2]

Another disappointing loss.  Somebody else made a career high score at Lamar expense.

I thought I would post it here, to bump this poll thread to the top.

[bigred360]

Any one know any many times this year a player had a career night offensively against the Cardinals. It has to be at least 6 times this season.

[LamarFanatic]

atleast 6 how can the we be that bad in a down southland. could you imagine what would happen if we went to the wac with Roc as the head BB coach. ouch.

[coachacola]

If you throw out the sub-D1 games Roc has scheduled, he's only had 1 winning season out of 5.  Throw in the fact that the SLC is one of the weakest conferences in the country then it's definitely time for him to go.

[LamarFanatic]

hey coach what is Rocs overall record if you subtract all the non d1 schools wins. cant be good i know he is 72-74 right now.

[Lazeek]

At least 18-20 less wins!!!

[coachacola]

[quote name="LamarFanatic" post="962761" timestamp="1297179544"]
hey coach what is Rocs overall record if you subtract all the non d1 schools wins. cant be good i know he is 72-74 right now.
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2007: 13-17
2008: 15-11
2009: 11-15
2010: 10-18
2011: 5-13 (so far)

Not pretty.

[Lazeek]

So 54-74..........yea he is great, lets keep this dumbace around longer and keep running the program into the ground.  He has has his 5 years, time for a change! ::) ::) ::)

[LUFAN]

Lazeek and Coach who would you like to see LU try to go after?? I would like to look at BCG, Gottfried, or Lil Knight..   I say dream BIG....

[bigred360]

LU will have to open the wallet for those types of coaches. Honestly, I think it would be worth someone making 200K or more it they can get the program to where it was in the late 70 and early 80's.

I remember reading at one point Lamar MBB was third in the state of Texas in attendance back then behind UT and UH.

[Lazeek]

[quote name="bigred360" post="962853" timestamp="1297188303"]
LU will have to open the wallet for those types of coaches. Honestly, I think it would be worth someone making 200K or more it they can get the program to where it was in the late 70 and early 80's.

I remember reading at one point Lamar MBB was third in the state of Texas in attendance back then behind UT and UH.


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I find that hard to believe.......I guarantee you that Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Baylor, SMU, TCU all average more than LU does in attendance!!!

[ForeverADog]

He meant in the mid 80's. When we still had 7000 come to games.

[coachacola]

[quote name="LUFAN" post="962835" timestamp="1297186522"]
Lazeek and Coach who would you like to see LU try to go after?? I would like to look at BCG, Gottfried, or Lil Knight..   I say dream BIG....
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Who is Lil Knight?  I hope you don't mean Pat Knight over at Texas Tech!  He's not doing that well.

[bigred360]

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="962857" timestamp="1297188405"]
[quote author=bigred360 link=topic=79372.msg962853#msg962853 date=1297188303]
LU will have to open the wallet for those types of coaches. Honestly, I think it would be worth someone making 200K or more it they can get the program to where it was in the late 70 and early 80's.

I remember reading at one point Lamar MBB was third in the state of Texas in attendance back then behind UT and UH.


[/quote]

I find that hard to believe.......I guarantee you that Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Baylor, SMU, TCU all average more than LU does in attendance!!!
[/quote]


Sorry, that is hard to believe but that was during the Pat Foster year's and we were going to the NCAA or NIT tournaments every year. Yes, we averaged over 6500 at home during that time.  8)

[Ruckdad]

No he's not - He is totally in over his head - has been since he was handed the job.  I would not be in favor of Pat Knight.  I would look at assistants at over acheiving mid major programs.  I can't hink of any names off the top of my head, but there are plenty out there that would jump at the chance to get a D-1 head job with the cahnce to coach in the WAC (if that happens).  

If the WAC move does happen I think that opens our search to guys like Gillespie - I would call guys that are assistants at major schools too.

[LUFAN]

Lil Knight is not a Big 12 level coach.. He got in over his head to soon. He did not have the experience to coach at that level. I think he would be a good coach at the SLC or WAC level.

[Lazeek]

[quote name="bigred360" post="962874" timestamp="1297191431"]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=79372.msg962857#msg962857 date=1297188405]
[quote author=bigred360 link=topic=79372.msg962853#msg962853 date=1297188303]
LU will have to open the wallet for those types of coaches. Honestly, I think it would be worth someone making 200K or more it they can get the program to where it was in the late 70 and early 80's.

I remember reading at one point Lamar MBB was third in the state of Texas in attendance back then behind UT and UH.


[/quote]

I find that hard to believe.......I guarantee you that Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Baylor, SMU, TCU all average more than LU does in attendance!!!
[/quote]


Sorry, that is hard to believe but that was during the Pat Foster year's and we were going to the NCAA or NIT tournaments every year. Yes, we averaged over 6500 at home during that time.  8)
[/quote]
:D :D :D  I thought you were talking now.....6500 is how many pissed off LU fans there are now!!!! ;D ;D

[LUFAN]

Its hard to get a great coach while we are in the SLC...  I know that this is getting beat like a drum but a move to the WAC will open a lot of doors for us....  I sure hope we move to the WAC!l lol

[TradinUp BH]

A far reach, but these are some [b]assistants[/b] I would go after to become head coach. Gib Arnold-USC, John Groce-Ohio St., Tony Jones-Tennessee, Derek Kellogg-Memphis, Mark Montgomery-Michigan St.  This list may be too big for us, but since we're thinking big, I figured I would put the names out there.

[sleepy]

[quote name="Scalp'em" post="962888" timestamp="1297192704"]
A far reach, but these are some [b]assistants[/b] I would go after to become head coach. Gib Arnold-USC, John Groce-Ohio St., Tony Jones-Tennessee, Derek Kellogg-Memphis, Mark Montgomery-Michigan St.   This list may be too big for us, but since we're thinking big, I figured I would put the names out there.
[/quote]

Yeah let's take your advice..........Gib Arnold is the head coach at Hawaii, John Groce is the head coach and University of Ohio,  Derek Kellog is the head coach at UMASS.  You might want to make some reccomendations that you actually know something about!!!!  We need someone with Texas ties.

[Ruckdad]

Why does he need Texas ties - I just want a coach that can win!