Free Throw Shooting !!!!

[whsalum]

This is becoming a lost art in the high school game.I have watched a ton of games this season and I have never seen so many kids with such poor form.You see them standing with their feet sideways,taking their eye off the rim and even putting a loop in the release.This used to be taught for hours in practice but it seems like it's completely overlooked in todays game.This time of year it's the difference between winning and losing.

[baddog]

[quote name="whsalum" post="965474" timestamp="1297560490"]
This is becoming a lost art in the high school game.I have watched a ton of games this season and I have never seen so many kids with such poor form.You see them standing with their feet sideways,taking their eye off the rim and even putting a loop in the release.This used to be taught for hours in practice but it seems like it's completely overlooked in todays game.This time of year it's the difference between winning and losing.
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Except in a blowout, I think it is always the difference. JMO.

[whsalum]

Baddog that's what I was talking about,you see alot of blowouts in the regular season but those games are fixing to tighten up.The games will be won or lost from the line.

[no-look]

[quote name="whsalum" post="965474" timestamp="1297560490"]
This is becoming a lost art in the high school game.I have watched a ton of games this season and I have never seen so many kids with such poor form.You see them standing with their feet sideways,taking their eye off the rim and even putting a loop in the release.This used to be taught for hours in practice but it seems like it's completely overlooked in todays game.This time of year it's the difference between winning and losing.
[/quote]You are right on...

[whsalum]

I harped on my boys forever about form and learning to shoot them right.Now you never see them shoot them the same way twice.

[stevenash]

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I harped on my boys forever about form and learning to shoot them right.Now you never see them shoot them the same way twice.
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I see a lot of the younger kids much more concerned with the "pre shot routine" than the shot itself.

[whsalum]

Amen Steve,it doesn't matter how much you wind up if you hit the front iron or clang it off the back.Too much empasis on how "I" look shooting it.

[hfmom08]

Can someone say FUNDAMENTALS?  Coaching staffs should demand it and I'm not just talking free throw shooting but in all aspects of the game.

[utfan1982]

I personally have seen atleast 10 games be lost at the varsity level for no other reason than lack of free throw shooting ability.  And often the case is which team isn't as bad as the other.  Most definately a lost art...

[Honest Abe]

I'm not convinced it's all coaching. Nederland lost to WB earlier this yr b/c they missed a lot of FTs in the end of the game. Friday against Ozen, however,  they made 15-16 from the charity stripe. I don't know if it's coaching, but Nederland has been shooting much btr at the FT line as the season has progressed. Maybe just another great accomplishment of coach English??

[whsalum]

Coach English probably deserves a lot of the credit.I've seen some really good coaches emphasize it over the years.Making kids develope good form and practice it late in the workouts will and does translate to success on the court.

[CThoops]

This is the biggest part about the game. Period. Games are won and loss at the line, except in an completely embarrassing game. The first type of shot that should be taught to a kid is a free-throw. This way they can develop muscle-memory and perfect a stroke that gets the ball in the hoop. I agree that too many kids are worried about the pre-shot more than the actual mechanics.

Top 3 things in basketball that win games:
1) Free-Throw Shooting (Makes)
2) Rebounding Difference
3) Turnover Difference

[bullets13]

it doesn't make sense to me.  freethrows are easy.  I quit playing basketball in the 9th grade, and my senior year i got drawn to go out at halftime to shoot freethrows to win a cookie cake.  i made 4 straight and won the cake, and it had been literally 3 years since i'd taken one.  now don't get me wrong, i was surprised i made 4 in a row in that situation, but the point is that even after all that time it wasn't hard for me to find a soft touch and a decent arc.  i don't understand how guys who can make half of their contested jump shots are only making half of their uncontested, untimed freethrows, even after shooting probably 1000 or more of them in practice every year. 

[mfd814]

Lack of concentration, you have to want to be good at shooting free throws, get the technique down, have a ritual about it. I see alot of kids, just walk up and throw the ball up, or shoot it, miss and not make the corrections for the next one.  It drives coaches crazy.  I know they are taught the fundamentals of a FT, they practice it.  It is a lost art.

[no-look]

Shooting free throws should be like chunking a rock in the ocean......if your form is right and your mental aspect is right you should hit 70 to  80% on a constant basis.......Pistol Pete said he had a little man with him all the time. He could see the little man shooting and he never missed a shot........

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="dogs1218" post="965754" timestamp="1297660725"]
This is the biggest part about the game. Period. Games are won and loss at the line, except in an completely embarrassing game. The first type of shot that should be taught to a kid is a free-throw. This way they can develop muscle-memory and perfect a stroke that gets the ball in the hoop. I agree that too many kids are worried about the pre-shot more than the actual mechanics.

Top 3 things in basketball that win games:
1) Free-Throw Shooting (Makes)
2) Rebounding Difference
3) Turnover Difference
[/quote]#1 is defense! This will take care of the top three you mentioned.

[BLUEDOVE3]

See, ya gotta go deeper. All you guys are correct. BUT! It's called  a free throw. All the action stops and all eyes are on you. It's your moment AND will you choke? Too many players want to get it over with and get back to playing ;)

[Riding Solo]

Coach Tennison and coach Ancelot were sticklers when it came to freethrow shooting. Their girls shot freethrows every day in practice (100 made freethrows a day) and that was why Orangefield was one of the best freethrow shooting teams in the state year in and year out under their tenture.

[UncleDrew]

Free throws win championships......if i remember right in 2010 when HJ made it to the state simi finals they went something like 16 for 30 or some where around those numbers from the free throw line. I still think to this day if they woudl have made atleast 5 more free throws they would have been playing for a state championship that year. IMO free throws are as easy as you want them to be, I've seen players just staright up panic when they get the free throw line. Then I've seen other players get up there like its nothing and sink the biggest two shots of the season....its all about muscle memory

[86hawk]

we used to start practice shooting free throws (fresh) and would finish practice (spent) shooting free throws.  It wasn't just going thru the motions either.  We worked on free throws the same way we worked on the full court press.  You have to take it serious and not like a game of H-O-R-S-E.

[stevenash]

[quote name="FlexD33" post="965811" timestamp="1297696184"]
Free throws win championships......if i remember right in 2010 when HJ made it to the state simi finals they went something like 16 for 30 or some where around those numbers from the free throw line. I still think to this day if they woudl have made atleast 5 more free throws they would have been playing for a state championship that year. IMO free throws are as easy as you want them to be, I've seen players just staright up panic when they get the free throw line. Then I've seen other players get up there like its nothing and sink the biggest two shots of the season....its all about muscle memory
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I agree with everything you say.  However, sometimes, a fluke comes along.  Ask LeBron how he felt yesterday when he had two shots to tie the game with the Celtics in the last 10 seconds.  Sometimes the mental aspect influences the muscle memory.

[FanintheStands]

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[quote author=FlexD33 link=topic=80209.msg965811#msg965811 date=1297696184]
Free throws win championships......if i remember right in 2010 when HJ made it to the state simi finals they went something like 16 for 30 or some where around those numbers from the free throw line. I still think to this day if they woudl have made atleast 5 more free throws they would have been playing for a state championship that year. IMO free throws are as easy as you want them to be, I've seen players just staright up panic when they get the free throw line. Then I've seen other players get up there like its nothing and sink the biggest two shots of the season....its all about muscle memory
[/quote]

I agree with everything you say.  However, sometimes, a fluke comes along.  Ask LeBron how he felt yesterday when he had two shots to tie the game with the Celtics in the last 10 seconds.  Sometimes the mental aspect influences the muscle memory.
[/quote]True, but I also heard the ESPN announcer quote some sick percentages from Lebron when the game is near the end and the score is close..... something like 90-95% during that time.

The only problem with the percentages is sometimes those "5-10%" chances actually happen.

[stevenash]

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[quote author=stevenash link=topic=80209.msg965910#msg965910 date=1297710193]
[quote author=FlexD33 link=topic=80209.msg965811#msg965811 date=1297696184]
Free throws win championships......if i remember right in 2010 when HJ made it to the state simi finals they went something like 16 for 30 or some where around those numbers from the free throw line. I still think to this day if they woudl have made atleast 5 more free throws they would have been playing for a state championship that year. IMO free throws are as easy as you want them to be, I've seen players just staright up panic when they get the free throw line. Then I've seen other players get up there like its nothing and sink the biggest two shots of the season....its all about muscle memory
[/quote]

I agree with everything you say.  However, sometimes, a fluke comes along.  Ask LeBron how he felt yesterday when he had two shots to tie the game with the Celtics in the last 10 seconds.  Sometimes the mental aspect influences the muscle memory.
[/quote]True, but I also heard the ESPN announcer quote some sick percentages from Lebron when the game is near the end and the score is close..... something like 90-95% during that time.

The only problem with the percentages is sometimes those "5-10%" chances actually happen.
[/quote]

This wasnt ANY game- it was the Celtics

[CThoops]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="965796" timestamp="1297694237"]
[quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=80209.msg965754#msg965754 date=1297660725]
This is the biggest part about the game. Period. Games are won and loss at the line, except in an completely embarrassing game. The first type of shot that should be taught to a kid is a free-throw. This way they can develop muscle-memory and perfect a stroke that gets the ball in the hoop. I agree that too many kids are worried about the pre-shot more than the actual mechanics.

Top 3 things in basketball that win games:
1) Free-Throw Shooting (Makes)
2) Rebounding Difference
3) Turnover Difference
[/quote]#1 is defense! This will take care of the top three you mentioned.
[/quote]

Doesnt out-rebounding the other team and forcing more tunrovers go along with Defense? Come on Dove ;) I know better than that

[BLUEDOVE3]

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[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=80209.msg965796#msg965796 date=1297694237]
[quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=80209.msg965754#msg965754 date=1297660725]
This is the biggest part about the game. Period. Games are won and loss at the line, except in an completely embarrassing game. The first type of shot that should be taught to a kid is a free-throw. This way they can develop muscle-memory and perfect a stroke that gets the ball in the hoop. I agree that too many kids are worried about the pre-shot more than the actual mechanics.

Top 3 things in basketball that win games:
1) Free-Throw Shooting (Makes)
2) Rebounding Difference
3) Turnover Difference
[/quote]#1 is defense! This will take care of the top three you mentioned.
[/quote]

Doesnt out-rebounding the other team and forcing more tunrovers go along with Defense? Come on Dove ;) I know better than that
[/quote]yeah! yeah! yeah! I'll give you that much  :P