**HF @ HJ Broadcast---Senior Night--Hawks win 70-52**

[stevenash]

[quote name="no-look" post="967469" timestamp="1297910043"]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=80242.msg967463#msg967463 date=1297909628]
First of all, there is no rule in UIL that has a player to be suspended for the next game after being ejected from the previous game. That is only for coaches.

Second, Hardin-Jefferson's next game isn't a playoff game. It's a warm up game against PNG.
[/quote   Correct.....our district has a rule that you miss the next game if you get tossed....not UIL but a district rule.....we are probally the only district that does it.
[/quote]

If its a district rule, then I assume it would mean the next district game.  This was the final district game unless he serves the suspension the following season.

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="stevenash" post="967502" timestamp="1297912325"]
[quote author=no-look link=topic=80242.msg967469#msg967469 date=1297910043]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=80242.msg967463#msg967463 date=1297909628]
First of all, there is no rule in UIL that has a player to be suspended for the next game after being ejected from the previous game. That is only for coaches.

Second, Hardin-Jefferson's next game isn't a playoff game. It's a warm up game against PNG.
[/quote   Correct.....our district has a rule that you miss the next game if you get tossed....not UIL but a district rule.....we are probally the only district that does it.
[/quote]

If its a district rule, then I assume it would mean the next district game.  This was the final district game unless he serves the suspension the following season.
[/quote]


Nash, I don't think 21-3A has that rule, but I could be wrong. No-look was saying 18-3A has that rule.

[hfmom08]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="967463" timestamp="1297909628"]
First of all, there is no rule in UIL that has a player to be suspended for the next game after being ejected from the previous game. That is only for coaches.

Second, Hardin-Jefferson's next game isn't a playoff game. It's a warm up game against PNG.
[/quote]

Oh so I guess it's ok since it a warm up game.. :D :D :D  Where there's a will there's a way.

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="hfmom08" post="967511" timestamp="1297912689"]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=80242.msg967463#msg967463 date=1297909628]
First of all, there is no rule in UIL that has a player to be suspended for the next game after being ejected from the previous game. That is only for coaches.

Second, Hardin-Jefferson's next game isn't a playoff game. It's a warm up game against PNG.
[/quote]

Oh so I guess it's ok since it a warm up game.. :D :D :D  Where there's a will there's a way.
[/quote]

Even if it were a playoff game next for HJ, there is still no UIL rule that would suspend the player for that game.

[Lazeek]

Wrong player got kicked out.....should have been #23 from HF!!!! ;D ;D

[hfmom08]

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="967532" timestamp="1297913800"]
Wrong player got kicked out.....should have been #23 from HF!!!! ;D ;D
[/quote]

How do you figure??  No I didn't see the elbow in the back on the block out(by the HF player according to your post) which happens all the time BUT I did see with my own eyes the HJ player push the HF player and the HF player did not bite then I did see the HJ player bump "chest to chest" (IMO like he wanted a piece of him) with the HF player and the HF player still did not bite...soooo why do you think the wrong player was kicked out?  Oh, because that would have made the HJ fans happy - I get it.  ;)

[Lazeek]

[quote name="hfmom08" post="967540" timestamp="1297914637"]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=80242.msg967532#msg967532 date=1297913800]
Wrong player got kicked out.....should have been #23 from HF!!!! ;D ;D
[/quote]

How do you figure??  No I didn't see the elbow in the back on the block out(by the HF player according to your post) which happens all the time BUT I did see with my own eyes the HJ player push the HF player and the HF player did not bite then I did see the HJ player bump "chest to chest" (IMO like he wanted a piece of him) with the HF player and the HF player still did not bite...soooo why do you think the wrong player was kicked out?  Oh, because that would have made the HJ fans happy - I get it.   ;)
[/quote]

I am starting to get the feeling that the HF player involved must be your son!!! ;D ;D

[Lazeek]

[quote name="hfmom08" post="967461" timestamp="1297909370"]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=80242.msg967443#msg967443 date=1297908188]
The HJ player in question is eligible and that was never a question!!!!  

And it was requested by TASO, so they could view it!!! ;) ;)
[/quote]

Partial borrowed quote from SN -- "Are you suggesting that any type of behavior/conduct is acceptable just as long as..." you just get served with two techs and ejected and then get to come back the next game (which also happens to be a playoff game)?  No punishment other than the ejection...i guess  ::)
[/quote]

Also sounds as if the HF was baiting the HJ player trying to get him kicked out and possibly suspended for the next game!!!!

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="967548" timestamp="1297915137"]
[quote author=hfmom08 link=topic=80242.msg967461#msg967461 date=1297909370]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=80242.msg967443#msg967443 date=1297908188]
The HJ player in question is eligible and that was never a question!!!!  

And it was requested by TASO, so they could view it!!! ;) ;)
[/quote]

Partial borrowed quote from SN -- "Are you suggesting that any type of behavior/conduct is acceptable just as long as..." you just get served with two techs and ejected and then get to come back the next game (which also happens to be a playoff game)?  No punishment other than the ejection...i guess  ::)
[/quote]

[b]Also sounds as if the HF was baiting the HJ player trying to get him kicked out and possibly suspended for the next game!!!![/b][/quote]



And you guys wonder why we call ya'll "conspiracy theorists". ;) ;D ::)

[hfmom08]

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="967547" timestamp="1297915004"]
[quote author=hfmom08 link=topic=80242.msg967540#msg967540 date=1297914637]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=80242.msg967532#msg967532 date=1297913800]
Wrong player got kicked out.....should have been #23 from HF!!!! ;D ;D
[/quote]

How do you figure??  No I didn't see the elbow in the back on the block out(by the HF player according to your post) which happens all the time BUT I did see with my own eyes the HJ player push the HF player and the HF player did not bite then I did see the HJ player bump "chest to chest" (IMO like he wanted a piece of him) with the HF player and the HF player still did not bite...soooo why do you think the wrong player was kicked out?  Oh, because that would have made the HJ fans happy - I get it.   ;)
[/quote]

I am starting to get the feeling that the HF player involved must be your son!!! ;D ;D
[/quote]

LOL...you are incorrect #23 is not my son as Maurey would say I am NOT the MOTHER  :D :D :D...but as far as I'm concerned they are ALL my kids because they are who I care about.  I am on here to speak on ALL of their behalf because I AM part of the village that it takes to raise a child.  :) 

[hfmom08]

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="967548" timestamp="1297915137"]
[quote author=hfmom08 link=topic=80242.msg967461#msg967461 date=1297909370]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=80242.msg967443#msg967443 date=1297908188]
The HJ player in question is eligible and that was never a question!!!!  

And it was requested by TASO, so they could view it!!! ;) ;)
[/quote]

Partial borrowed quote from SN -- "Are you suggesting that any type of behavior/conduct is acceptable just as long as..." you just get served with two techs and ejected and then get to come back the next game (which also happens to be a playoff game)?  No punishment other than the ejection...i guess  ::)
[/quote]

Also sounds as if the HF was baiting the HJ player trying to get him kicked out and possibly suspended for the next game!!!!
[/quote]

Yeah right...It doesn't take anyone baiting that HJ player with the attitude he has.

[hfmom08]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="967589" timestamp="1297922629"]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=80242.msg967548#msg967548 date=1297915137]
[quote author=hfmom08 link=topic=80242.msg967461#msg967461 date=1297909370]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=80242.msg967443#msg967443 date=1297908188]
The HJ player in question is eligible and that was never a question!!!!  

And it was requested by TASO, so they could view it!!! ;) ;)
[/quote]

Partial borrowed quote from SN -- "Are you suggesting that any type of behavior/conduct is acceptable just as long as..." you just get served with two techs and ejected and then get to come back the next game (which also happens to be a playoff game)?  No punishment other than the ejection...i guess  ::)
[/quote]



[b]Also sounds as if the HF was baiting the HJ player trying to get him kicked out and possibly suspended for the next game!!!![/b][/quote]



And you guys wonder why we call ya'll "conspiracy theorists". ;) ;D ::)
[/quote]

How and why would we conspire to get him kicked out and possibly suspended for the next game?  How would that benefit us (HF)?  Remember, we're at home now...it's not like we're gonna meet up with HJ again in the playoffs and are trying to get them eliminated early by getting their "best player" suspended...so why do ya'll call US conspiracy theorists??  Ain't that the pot calling the kettle black.  Ya'll are the one's trying to recruit HF players.  ;)

[BLUEDOVE3]

I still think the biggest story about this game is that HF could have won it. 8)

[True Blue]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="967632" timestamp="1297952637"]
I still think the biggest story about this game is that HF could have won it. 8)
[/quote] HF had a chance to win this game when they steped off the bus, they reality set in. And I have heard some HF fan saying that the coach Quit, when he let the SRs play the last 3 min. I thank he was letting the kid play their last 3 min, that they will ever play, in highschool. Whats wrong with that, its not like you had anything to play for, your season is over.Winning at that point ment nothing, but letting those kid finish their high school career on the floor, instead of on the bench is OK by me.

[Lazeek]

[quote name="hfmom08" post="967609" timestamp="1297948689"]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=80242.msg967547#msg967547 date=1297915004]
[quote author=hfmom08 link=topic=80242.msg967540#msg967540 date=1297914637]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=80242.msg967532#msg967532 date=1297913800]
Wrong player got kicked out.....should have been #23 from HF!!!! ;D ;D
[/quote]

How do you figure??  No I didn't see the elbow in the back on the block out(by the HF player according to your post) which happens all the time BUT I did see with my own eyes the HJ player push the HF player and the HF player did not bite then I did see the HJ player bump "chest to chest" (IMO like he wanted a piece of him) with the HF player and the HF player still did not bite...soooo why do you think the wrong player was kicked out?  Oh, because that would have made the HJ fans happy - I get it.   ;)
[/quote]

I am starting to get the feeling that the HF player involved must be your son!!! ;D ;D
[/quote]

LOL...you are incorrect #23 is not my son as Maurey would say I am NOT the MOTHER  :D :D :D...but as far as I'm concerned they are ALL my kids because they are who I care about.  I am on here to speak on ALL of their behalf because I AM part of the village that it takes to raise a child.   :)   
[/quote]

You know where you go for lying??? ;) ;) ;D ;D

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="True Blue" post="967639" timestamp="1297953488"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=80242.msg967632#msg967632 date=1297952637]
I still think the biggest story about this game is that HF could have won it. 8)
[/quote] HF had a chance to win this game when they steped off the bus, they reality set in. And I have heard some HF fan saying that the coach Quit, when he let the SRs play the last 3 min. I thank he was letting the kid play their last 3 min, that they will ever play, in highschool. Whats wrong with that, its not like you had anything to play for, your season is over.Winning at that point ment nothing, but letting those kid finish their high school career on the floor, instead of on the bench is OK by me.
[/quote]OMG! The seniors had their chance. Thats what Senior day is about, isn't it. Now you want to establish or end on a winning note and carry it on to next season. Did you see HJ settle back in the game. They wanted to win. They could have lost and still went to the playoffs.

[hfmom08]

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="967655" timestamp="1297955152"]
[quote author=hfmom08 link=topic=80242.msg967609#msg967609 date=1297948689]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=80242.msg967547#msg967547 date=1297915004]
[quote author=hfmom08 link=topic=80242.msg967540#msg967540 date=1297914637]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=80242.msg967532#msg967532 date=1297913800]
Wrong player got kicked out.....should have been #23 from HF!!!! ;D ;D
[/quote]

How do you figure??  No I didn't see the elbow in the back on the block out(by the HF player according to your post) which happens all the time BUT I did see with my own eyes the HJ player push the HF player and the HF player did not bite then I did see the HJ player bump "chest to chest" (IMO like he wanted a piece of him) with the HF player and the HF player still did not bite...soooo why do you think the wrong player was kicked out?  Oh, because that would have made the HJ fans happy - I get it.   ;)
[/quote]

I am starting to get the feeling that the HF player involved must be your son!!! ;D ;D
[/quote]

LOL...you are incorrect #23 is not my son as Maurey would say I am NOT the MOTHER  :D :D :D...but as far as I'm concerned they are ALL my kids because they are who I care about.  I am on here to speak on ALL of their behalf because I AM part of the village that it takes to raise a child.   :)   
[/quote]

You know where you go for lying??? ;) ;) ;D ;D
[/quote]

Well I guess you'll be there by yourself cause I'm going where you go for telling the TRUTH!  :D :D :D...can't believe you think I'm lying...shows how well people know each other on this board.  :)

[Lazeek]

You are sure trying hard to protect this HF kid!!!

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="hfmom08" post="967612" timestamp="1297949187"]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=80242.msg967589#msg967589 date=1297922629]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=80242.msg967548#msg967548 date=1297915137]
[quote author=hfmom08 link=topic=80242.msg967461#msg967461 date=1297909370]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=80242.msg967443#msg967443 date=1297908188]
The HJ player in question is eligible and that was never a question!!!!  

And it was requested by TASO, so they could view it!!! ;) ;)
[/quote]

Partial borrowed quote from SN -- "Are you suggesting that any type of behavior/conduct is acceptable just as long as..." you just get served with two techs and ejected and then get to come back the next game (which also happens to be a playoff game)?  No punishment other than the ejection...i guess  ::)
[/quote]



[b]Also sounds as if the HF was baiting the HJ player trying to get him kicked out and possibly suspended for the next game!!!![/b][/quote]



And you guys wonder why we call ya'll "conspiracy theorists". ;) ;D ::)
[/quote]

How and why would we conspire to get him kicked out and possibly suspended for the next game?  How would that benefit us (HF)?  Remember, we're at home now...it's not like we're gonna meet up with HJ again in the playoffs and are trying to get them eliminated early by getting their "best player" suspended...so why do ya'll call US conspiracy theorists??  Ain't that the pot calling the kettle black.  Ya'll are the one's trying to recruit HF players.  ;)
[/quote]


hfmom08, my conspiracy comment was directed at LAZEEK, not you.

[The Cook]

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="967548" timestamp="1297915137"]
[quote author=hfmom08 link=topic=80242.msg967461#msg967461 date=1297909370]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=80242.msg967443#msg967443 date=1297908188]
The HJ player in question is eligible and that was never a question!!!!  

And it was requested by TASO, so they could view it!!! ;) ;)
[/quote]

Partial borrowed quote from SN -- "Are you suggesting that any type of behavior/conduct is acceptable just as long as..." you just get served with two techs and ejected and then get to come back the next game (which also happens to be a playoff game)?  No punishment other than the ejection...i guess  ::)
[/quote]

Also sounds as if the HF was baiting the HJ player trying to get him kicked out and possibly suspended for the next game!!!!
[/quote]

I have heard of coaches implementing the 1 game suspension for their own players but not a specific district committee rule & certainly NOT a UIL rule. It is an NCAA mandatory 1 game suspension or more depending on the severity of the action.

[team first]

Are we talking about the H-Fannett basketball team? Why??? I think some have already pointed out what happens in a situation like theirs. It's inevitable!

[BLUEDOVE3]

I guess there is always next year to look forward for HF

[True Blue]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="967675" timestamp="1297956647"]
[quote author=True Blue link=topic=80242.msg967639#msg967639 date=1297953488]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=80242.msg967632#msg967632 date=1297952637]
I still think the biggest story about this game is that HF could have won it. 8)
[/quote] HF had a chance to win this game when they steped off the bus, they reality set in. And I have heard some HF fan saying that the coach Quit, when he let the SRs play the last 3 min. I thank he was letting the kid play their last 3 min, that they will ever play, in highschool. Whats wrong with that, its not like you had anything to play for, your season is over.Winning at that point ment nothing, but letting those kid finish their high school career on the floor, instead of on the bench is OK by me.
[/quote]OMG! The seniors had their chance. Thats what Senior day is about, isn't it. Now you want to establish or end on a winning note and carry it on to next season. Did you see HJ settle back in the game. They wanted to win. They could have lost and still went to the playoffs.
[/quote] Sorry I just think that when you have nothing to play for, why not let the Srs play the last of their high school on the floor, and not on the bench watching a Fr play that has 3 more yrs to play. I think that there is a time to play to win, but when the season is all but over let the kids play that will not have the chance to ever play again. And I also bet that if the HJ team is in the playoffs in a game that there is no chance to come back from, that those Srs, will be on the floor at the end. Not saying in a close game but one that they have no chance of comming back from.

[stevenash]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="967827" timestamp="1297968867"]
I guess there is always next year to look forward for HF
[/quote]

Can you say "Austin, Texas in March"?

[stevenash]

[quote name="True Blue" post="967862" timestamp="1297974753"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=80242.msg967675#msg967675 date=1297956647]
[quote author=True Blue link=topic=80242.msg967639#msg967639 date=1297953488]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=80242.msg967632#msg967632 date=1297952637]
I still think the biggest story about this game is that HF could have won it. 8)
[/quote] HF had a chance to win this game when they steped off the bus, they reality set in. And I have heard some HF fan saying that the coach Quit, when he let the SRs play the last 3 min. I thank he was letting the kid play their last 3 min, that they will ever play, in highschool. Whats wrong with that, its not like you had anything to play for, your season is over.Winning at that point ment nothing, but letting those kid finish their high school career on the floor, instead of on the bench is OK by me.
[/quote]OMG! The seniors had their chance. Thats what Senior day is about, isn't it. Now you want to establish or end on a winning note and carry it on to next season. Did you see HJ settle back in the game. They wanted to win. They could have lost and still went to the playoffs.
[/quote] Sorry I just think that when you have nothing to play for, why not let the Srs play the last of their high school on the floor, and not on the bench watching a Fr play that has 3 more yrs to play. I think that there is a time to play to win, but when the season is all but over let the kids play that will not have the chance to ever play again. And I also bet that if the HJ team is in the playoffs in a game that there is no chance to come back from, that those Srs, will be on the floor at the end. Not saying in a close game but one that they have no chance of comming back from.
[/quote]

Regarding your last sentence.  I would be very interested to know the range of differences in defining no chance of coming back.