Wildcatter Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 I can't wait to see who they get. BTW I think Richards did cross country. Ironic isn't it? So you don't coach football but you still can't have your kids before the season starts.
True Blue Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 I just find it funny ,that HJ, Silsbee, WOS all have a basketball class for kids that dont play football. So when school starts, their basketball players are in the gym. And once the season is over their still in the gym. HF has UOS and came in 4 in the dist behind those 3 schools. ::)
dribblemonkey Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 how do they deal with kids that do both? On Lifting Weights......4 Days a week lifting – off season They test body fat VERY IMPORTANT is the weight program “One of the most important thing is to be stronger than the other guyâ€I love practice and love to play, if you don’t you are probably not going to get better. To be a better player you must get stronger.We lift year round. We chart the players on the weights. Bench, reps, lungs etc. Many people are keeping the kids accountable. I would make less money and pay the weight coach to have a better weight program.the above is from Don Meyer
stevenash Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 [quote name="dribblemonkey" post="993465" timestamp="1302053300"]how do they deal with kids that do both? On Lifting Weights......4 Days a week lifting – off season They test body fat VERY IMPORTANT is the weight program “One of the most important thing is to be stronger than the other guyâ€I love practice and love to play, if you don’t you are probably not going to get better. To be a better player you must get stronger.We lift year round. We chart the players on the weights. Bench, reps, lungs etc. Many people are keeping the kids accountable. I would make less money and pay the weight coach to have a better weight program.the above is from Don Meyer[/quote]Time is limited in high school. " To be a better player, you must be stronger"? That might be true if your skills are adequate. But if you sacrifice skill development time in order to get "stronger" you wont get better. Looks to me like Kevin Durant is a very good player.
Hurley Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 I'm pretty sure there are no Kevin Durants wandering the halls of any area school. Comparing Durant to these high school kids is unfair.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Report Posted April 6, 2011 [quote name="stevenash" post="993676" timestamp="1302087039"][quote author=dribblemonkey link=topic=81494.msg993465#msg993465 date=1302053300]how do they deal with kids that do both? On Lifting Weights......4 Days a week lifting – off season They test body fat VERY IMPORTANT is the weight program “One of the most important thing is to be stronger than the other guyâ€I love practice and love to play, if you don’t you are probably not going to get better. To be a better player you must get stronger.We lift year round. We chart the players on the weights. Bench, reps, lungs etc. Many people are keeping the kids accountable. I would make less money and pay the weight coach to have a better weight program.the above is from Don Meyer[/quote]Time is limited in high school. " To be a better player, you must be stronger"? That might be true if your skills are adequate. But if you sacrifice skill development time in order to get "stronger" you wont get better. Looks to me like Kevin Durant is a very good player.[/quote]Stevie, you have pointed out a major problem :-X's program. Weight lifting nor cross country makes a difference if you don't have the skill set to produce to be a winner. So the question remains, do you want stronger players or more skilled players? In my opinion, give me a skinny kid in high school who knows how to dribble, score and defend versus a strong kid who can't hold his own *weight*. ;)
BLUEDOVE3 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Report Posted April 6, 2011 [quote name="Hurley" post="993749" timestamp="1302097815"]I'm pretty sure there are no Kevin Durants wandering the halls of any area school. Comparing Durant to these high school kids is unfair. [/quote]Most players of Durant's ability were all unknown at one time. All the greats end up having a break out season. I'm like you, I don't see it right now myself, but you never know.
dribblemonkey Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 Juat wondering is there a time limit for open gym after school and on weekends where the true gym-rat can develop said skills?
BLUEDOVE3 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Report Posted April 6, 2011 [quote name="dribblemonkey" post="993781" timestamp="1302099615"]Juat wondering is there a time limit for open gym after school and on weekends where the true gym-rat can develop said skills?[/quote]At HF, it seems to be about 5:30. Now how many of hose kids are using the gym, I dunno.
dribblemonkey Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 well if school is out at 3:30 and they can get in they gym til 5:30, thats an adequate amount of time.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Report Posted April 6, 2011 [quote name="dribblemonkey" post="993819" timestamp="1302102654"]well if school is out at 3:30 and they can get in they gym til 5:30, thats an adequate amount of time.[/quote]I agree
Guest speechless Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 i have seen open gym be as ineffective as it can be effectivejust because they are in the gym doesn't mean they are getting betterquality over quantitythat is why it is important for them to be in the gym with the coach during the period in the off-seasonthat one hour of structured work is much more productive than 2 hours of half hearted playing and you know they aren't splitting up on their own to do individual shooting, ball handling, etc.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Report Posted April 6, 2011 [quote name="speechless" post="993831" timestamp="1302103511"]i have seen open gym be as ineffective as it can be effectivejust because they are in the gym doesn't mean they are getting betterquality over quantitythat is why it is important for them to be in the gym with the coach during the period in the off-seasonthat one hour of structured work is much more productive than 2 hours of half hearted playing and you know they aren't splitting up on their own to do individual shooting, ball handling, etc.[/quote]You're right about this
BLUEDOVE3 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Report Posted April 6, 2011 [quote name="Wildcatter" post="993295" timestamp="1302042147"]I can't wait to see who they get. BTW I think Richards did cross country. Ironic isn't it? So you don't coach football but you still can't have your kids before the season starts.[/quote]Why is it that you can't wait? Are you feeling that HF will be the same even with the changes?
dribblemonkey Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 Thats why open gym shud not be a free for all, same as summer workouts, we attended Texas Longhorn team camp a few years back and received a very handy individual workout book, I have had kids follow this before game play is allowed and have had good luck with it.
Guest speechless Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 coaches are not allowed to organize open gym activities
dribblemonkey Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 nothing was organized by coaches, kids were given individual workout books when they attended camp, chose to follow the individual workouts, as the coach would like them to.
Betrayed Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 It's amazing how I knew this a month ago ;D
Betrayed Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 [quote name="Malcolm X" post="985740" timestamp="1300571006"]Inside Scoop. Anthony Decello!! ;)[/quote] ;D ;D ;D
stevenash Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 [quote name="Malcolm X" post="996232" timestamp="1302620241"]It's amazing how I knew this a month ago ;D[/quote]Yes it is- particularly when the people who hired him did not know it then.
Betrayed Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 [quote name="stevenash" post="996244" timestamp="1302621203"][quote author=Malcolm X link=topic=81494.msg996232#msg996232 date=1302620241]It's amazing how I knew this a month ago ;D[/quote]Yes it is- particularly when the people who hired him did not know it then.[/quote]Nash im sure you already know how I knew. And I guarantee you that H.F. been knew he was their guy. I can tell you now that Dove 2 boys had alot to do with him accepting the job. That's what the hold up was about ;D
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