Next year predictions

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I agree with you buddy. HJ may go to state next year. Those two studs they have coming back will be hard to handle. Silsbee will play small ball next year and may have a hard time against bigger teams.
[/quote]Actually, HF will match up well with HJ this year. It will be different if HF gets the right coach to instill dicipline in the team and a will to win.
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Who is it that will be matching up with Prudhomme?
[/quote]Oh thats easy. We have two bigs to help out and quick guards to strip him when put it on the floor. OOPS! Too much info.

[stevenash]

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I agree with you buddy. HJ may go to state next year. Those two studs they have coming back will be hard to handle. Silsbee will play small ball next year and may have a hard time against bigger teams.
[/quote]Actually, HF will match up well with HJ this year. It will be different if HF gets the right coach to instill dicipline in the team and a will to win.
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Who is it that will be matching up with Prudhomme?
[/quote]Oh thats easy. We have two bigs to help out and quick guards to strip him when put it on the floor. OOPS! Too much info.


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Sounds to me like out three point shooter is gonna have a lot of fun when all of those people stop Prudhomme.  Will all four of those (2 bigs and 2 quick guards) going to be new people?  I don't remember any of them doing much of that to him last season.

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I agree with you buddy. HJ may go to state next year. Those two studs they have coming back will be hard to handle. Silsbee will play small ball next year and may have a hard time against bigger teams.
[/quote]Actually, HF will match up well with HJ this year. It will be different if HF gets the right coach to instill dicipline in the team and a will to win.
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Who is it that will be matching up with Prudhomme?
[/quote]Oh thats easy. We have two bigs to help out and quick guards to strip him when put it on the floor. OOPS! Too much info.


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Sounds to me like out three point shooter is gonna have a lot of fun when all of those people stop Prudhomme.  Will all four of those (2 bigs and 2 quick guards) going to be new people?  I don't remember any of them doing much of that to him last season.

[/quote]If HF hires who I think it will be, the new coach will see it ;)

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I agree with you buddy. HJ may go to state next year. Those two studs they have coming back will be hard to handle. Silsbee will play small ball next year and may have a hard time against bigger teams.
[/quote]Actually, HF will match up well with HJ this year. It will be different if HF gets the right coach to instill dicipline in the team and a will to win.
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Who is it that will be matching up with Prudhomme?
[/quote]Oh thats easy. We have two bigs to help out and quick guards to strip him when put it on the floor. OOPS! Too much info.


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Sounds to me like out three point shooter is gonna have a lot of fun when all of those people stop Prudhomme.  Will all four of those (2 bigs and 2 quick guards) going to be new people?  I don't remember any of them doing much of that to him last season.

[/quote]If HF hires who I think it will be, the new coach will see it ;)
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Hmmm- In my own, unsophisticated way of thinking it seems to me that if Prudhomme puts the ball on the floor and one of the bigs "stops" him, will they be employing a very sophisticated rotation system that will enable each subsequently open man to be quickly covered?  If that is the case, then HJ( and probably every other team in the district) is in big trouble.

[east texas bb]

Pack line Man2Man with Post Ambush if in the Low Post.

[stevenash]

theory and realilty are often quite different

[east texas bb]

Very True.

[BLUEDOVE3]

Yeah, but theory can be more fun than reality. Lets use HF as the example (again). If our kids apply the principles & rules of playing basketball (skill training, games,mental exercise, etc)  all summer for about 4-5 hours a day, my theory tells me we can whip HJ and Silsbee butt next season ;D

[FanintheStands]

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Yeah, but theory can be more fun than reality. Lets use HF as the example (again). If our kids apply the principles & rules of playing basketball (skill training, games,mental exercise, etc)  all summer for about 4-5 hours a day, my theory tells me we can whip HJ and Silsbee butt next season ;D
[/quote]That's a good theory.

But in reality, if your kids spent 4-5 hours a day in the gym all summer they'd be burnt out on basketball and HJ and Silsbee would once again whip's HF's butt next season.

Just goes to show that there is a difference between theory and reality.  ;)

[BLUEDOVE3]

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Yeah, but theory can be more fun than reality. Lets use HF as the example (again). If our kids apply the principles & rules of playing basketball (skill training, games,mental exercise, etc)  all summer for about 4-5 hours a day, my theory tells me we can whip HJ and Silsbee butt next season ;D
[/quote]That's a good theory.

But in reality, if your kids spent 4-5 hours a day in the gym all summer they'd be burnt out on basketball and HJ and Silsbee would once again whip's HF's butt next season.

Just goes to show that there is a difference between theory and reality.  ;)
[/quote]Ah but the true reality is that true ballers have no problem playing 4-5 hours a day, while the rest play video games. All we need are at least 4 true ballers to carry us in order to beat HJ ;)

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Yeah, but theory can be more fun than reality. Lets use HF as the example (again). If our kids apply the principles & rules of playing basketball (skill training, games,mental exercise, etc)  all summer for about 4-5 hours a day, my theory tells me we can whip HJ and Silsbee butt next season ;D
[/quote]That's a good theory.

But in reality, if your kids spent 4-5 hours a day in the gym all summer they'd be burnt out on basketball and HJ and Silsbee would once again whip's HF's butt next season.

Just goes to show that there is a difference between theory and reality.  ;)
[/quote]Ah but the true reality is that true ballers have no problem playing 4-5 hours a day, while the rest play video games. All we need are at least 4 true ballers to carry us in order to beat HJ ;)
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Am I correct in assuming that YOU are assuming that the HF kids will play basketball 4-5 hours per day and the HJ kids will spend that same time playing videos?  The results of HJ basketball program do NOT suggest that to be the case.

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Yeah, but theory can be more fun than reality. Lets use HF as the example (again). If our kids apply the principles & rules of playing basketball (skill training, games,mental exercise, etc)  all summer for about 4-5 hours a day, my theory tells me we can whip HJ and Silsbee butt next season ;D
[/quote]That's a good theory.

But in reality, if your kids spent 4-5 hours a day in the gym all summer they'd be burnt out on basketball and HJ and Silsbee would once again whip's HF's butt next season.

Just goes to show that there is a difference between theory and reality.  ;)
[/quote]Ah but the true reality is that true ballers have no problem playing 4-5 hours a day, while the rest play video games. All we need are at least 4 true ballers to carry us in order to beat HJ ;)
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Am I correct in assuming that YOU are assuming that the HF kids will play basketball 4-5 hours per day and the HJ kids will spend that same time playing videos?  The results of HJ basketball program do NOT suggest that to be the case.
[/quote]Only in theory  Definitely not in reality! :D

[stevenash]

One more question, Dove.  You mentioned if HF had 4 "ballers"-  Can you define "ballers" for me?  I have a feeling that,when they were drafted in the same year, Allen Iverson would have been perceived as a "baller" and Ray Allen would not have been.  Isn't it interesting how things have worked out?  The Knicks are playing 500(%) ball since the addition of Carmelo Anthony while the Nuggets have won 8 of 11 during the same time frame.  I guess they found a way to survive with one less "baller".  ;D

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One more question, Dove.  You mentioned if HF had 4 "ballers"-  Can you define "ballers" for me?  I have a feeling that,when they were drafted in the same year, Allen Iverson would have been perceived as a "baller" and Ray Allen would not have been.  Isn't it interesting how things have worked out?  The Knicks are playing 500(%) ball since the addition of Carmelo Anthony while the Nuggets have won 8 of 11 during the same time frame.  I guess they found a way to survive with one less "baller".  ;D
[/quote]In HF's case, a baller is anyone who truly loves the game and willing to improve and learn from a good coach.  Take the extra minute to learn the game. Know the difference between a baseball and a basketball.

[stevenash]

I like and appreciate that definition.  You did mention something about "if the HF kids apply the rules and principles of playing basketball.  If they do that, they would certainly improve.  But who is to say that the competition won't be doing the same thing?

[CThoops]

A "baller" is a kid that will do exactly what the coach tells him to do at the given time in a game. If the coach asked you to score the basketball, he will go down and score. If the coach ask him to get that ball, he will get that ball by either great defense and a finish with the rebound, or play solid defense and force the turnover. Get what I saying? ;)

[FanintheStands]

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One more question, Dove.  You mentioned if HF had 4 "ballers"-  Can you define "ballers" for me?  I have a feeling that,when they were drafted in the same year, Allen Iverson would have been perceived as a "baller" and Ray Allen would not have been.  Isn't it interesting how things have worked out?  The Knicks are playing 500(%) ball since the addition of Carmelo Anthony while the Nuggets have won 8 of 11 during the same time frame.  I guess they found a way to survive with one less "baller".  ;D
[/quote]In HF's case, a baller is anyone who truly loves the game and willing to improve and learn from a good coach.  Take the extra minute to learn the game. Know the difference between a baseball and a basketball.
[/quote]... and I think therein lies the problem.  In the 8th to 9th grade you've got "ballers" as you explained.  Then, for various reasons, the ballers lose their interest/focus.

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One more question, Dove.  You mentioned if HF had 4 "ballers"-  Can you define "ballers" for me?  I have a feeling that,when they were drafted in the same year, Allen Iverson would have been perceived as a "baller" and Ray Allen would not have been.  Isn't it interesting how things have worked out?  The Knicks are playing 500(%) ball since the addition of Carmelo Anthony while the Nuggets have won 8 of 11 during the same time frame.  I guess they found a way to survive with one less "baller".  ;D
[/quote]In HF's case, a baller is anyone who truly loves the game and willing to improve and learn from a good coach.  Take the extra minute to learn the game. Know the difference between a baseball and a basketball.
[/quote]... and I think therein lies the problem.  In the 8th to 9th grade you've got "ballers" as you explained.  Then, for various reasons, the ballers lose their interest/focus.
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No- they become weight lifters who play basketball instead of basketball players who lift weights

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One more question, Dove.  You mentioned if HF had 4 "ballers"-  Can you define "ballers" for me?  I have a feeling that,when they were drafted in the same year, Allen Iverson would have been perceived as a "baller" and Ray Allen would not have been.  Isn't it interesting how things have worked out?  The Knicks are playing 500(%) ball since the addition of Carmelo Anthony while the Nuggets have won 8 of 11 during the same time frame.  I guess they found a way to survive with one less "baller".  ;D
[/quote]In HF's case, a baller is anyone who truly loves the game and willing to improve and learn from a good coach.  Take the extra minute to learn the game. Know the difference between a baseball and a basketball.
[/quote]... and I think therein lies the problem.  In the 8th to 9th grade you've got "ballers" as you explained.  Then, for various reasons, the ballers lose their interest/focus.
[/quote]But it happens in football as well. Those HF dads are diehard football. But thenagain, maybe I just answered the ???

[dawg13]

Dove,you or wrong for that calling me out like that.Cuz i thought we were better than that.But as you know I strongly and willingly support all HF sports.I would just like a coach that would demand that his kids in the BBALL PROGRAM play summer ball and not give them an option, all other schools had their kids their this past summer and we could only field 7 to 8 players, playing can not be an option anymore.

[BLUEDOVE3]

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Dove,you or wrong for that calling me out like that.Cuz i thought we were better than that.But as you know I strongly and willingly support all HF sports.I would just like a coach that would demand that his kids in the BBALL PROGRAM play summer ball and not give them an option, all other schools had their kids their this past summer and we could only field 7 to 8 players, playing can not be an option anymore.
[/quote] :D I couldn't agree with you more, Cuz.  Maybe the new coach will feel the same way and at least take a look at his players and show interest during the summer. ;)

[True Blue]

In 1A next year I think there will a changing of the guard. I think HD and Big Sandy will fight for the top 2 spots. They were good teams this year with a few Sr. And with Evadale lossing the three big Sr. they will have to play a completely different style of ball next year.

[Guest twag11]

I Think kelly will have a pretty good year but they will be young.

[east texas bb]

I think Big Sandy will be good for the next few years, they were young this year and still competed.  Coach Foster does an excellent job every year.  It always seems that Big Sandy competes year in and year out.

[BLUEDOVE3]

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I Think kelly will have a pretty good year but they will be young.
[/quote]To compete in their district, it would really help if they could find a true big. But thats a rarity in this area.