Board Pulls Bond...

[smitty]

I'll presume you pay NISD taxes.  Did you support the first bond issue?  Were you planning on supporting the second bond try?


[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="984273" timestamp="1300373794"]
[quote author=smitty link=topic=81687.msg984269#msg984269 date=1300373456]
Not my fault you can't understand certain things!    ;)    ;D


[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=81687.msg984253#msg984253 date=1300372699]
[quote author=smitty link=topic=81687.msg984250#msg984250 date=1300372607]
[b]Ya'll believe everything in the news?[/b]   ;)


[quote author=dawgnut link=topic=81687.msg984206#msg984206 date=1300369108]
Read? What are you trying to do destroy the ability to spread FUD with facts?
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Kind of like believing what you say on a messageboard. ;)
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Not my fault you lack in credibility. ;)
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[OldNedDog]

[quote name="smitty" post="984309" timestamp="1300377752"]
I'll presume you pay NISD taxes.  Did you support the first bond issue?  Were you planning on supporting the second bond try?


[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=81687.msg984273#msg984273 date=1300373794]
[quote author=smitty link=topic=81687.msg984269#msg984269 date=1300373456]
Not my fault you can't understand certain things!    ;)    ;D


[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=81687.msg984253#msg984253 date=1300372699]
[quote author=smitty link=topic=81687.msg984250#msg984250 date=1300372607]
[b]Ya'll believe everything in the news?[/b]   ;)


[quote author=dawgnut link=topic=81687.msg984206#msg984206 date=1300369108]
Read? What are you trying to do destroy the ability to spread FUD with facts?
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Kind of like believing what you say on a messageboard. ;)
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Not my fault you lack in credibility. ;)
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Yes, Yes and Yes

And if you ask why I would support it again, see Brubakers post above ^^^

[smitty]

You answering for you or Aggies?

[quote name="19bulldog88" post="984319" timestamp="1300378593"]
[quote author=smitty link=topic=81687.msg984309#msg984309 date=1300377752]
I'll presume you pay NISD taxes.  Did you support the first bond issue?  Were you planning on supporting the second bond try?


[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=81687.msg984273#msg984273 date=1300373794]
[quote author=smitty link=topic=81687.msg984269#msg984269 date=1300373456]
Not my fault you can't understand certain things!    ;)    ;D


[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=81687.msg984253#msg984253 date=1300372699]
[quote author=smitty link=topic=81687.msg984250#msg984250 date=1300372607]
[b]Ya'll believe everything in the news?[/b]   ;)


[quote author=dawgnut link=topic=81687.msg984206#msg984206 date=1300369108]
Read? What are you trying to do destroy the ability to spread FUD with facts?
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Kind of like believing what you say on a messageboard. ;)
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Not my fault you lack in credibility. ;)
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Yes,Yes and Yes
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[OldNedDog]

[quote name="smitty" post="984325" timestamp="1300379074"]
You answering for you or Aggies?

[quote author=19bulldog88 link=topic=81687.msg984319#msg984319 date=1300378593]
[quote author=smitty link=topic=81687.msg984309#msg984309 date=1300377752]
I'll presume you pay NISD taxes.  Did you support the first bond issue?  Were you planning on supporting the second bond try?


[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=81687.msg984273#msg984273 date=1300373794]
[quote author=smitty link=topic=81687.msg984269#msg984269 date=1300373456]
Not my fault you can't understand certain things!    ;)    ;D


[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=81687.msg984253#msg984253 date=1300372699]
[quote author=smitty link=topic=81687.msg984250#msg984250 date=1300372607]
[b]Ya'll believe everything in the news?[/b]   ;)


[quote author=dawgnut link=topic=81687.msg984206#msg984206 date=1300369108]
Read? What are you trying to do destroy the ability to spread FUD with facts?
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Kind of like believing what you say on a messageboard. ;)
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Not my fault you lack in credibility. ;)
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Yes,Yes and Yes
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That's my answer

[smitty]

Thanks for the answer, but I was mainly curious about Aggies.

[quote name="19bulldog88" post="984327" timestamp="1300379226"]
[quote author=smitty link=topic=81687.msg984325#msg984325 date=1300379074]
You answering for you or Aggies?

[quote author=19bulldog88 link=topic=81687.msg984319#msg984319 date=1300378593]
[quote author=smitty link=topic=81687.msg984309#msg984309 date=1300377752]
I'll presume you pay NISD taxes.  Did you support the first bond issue?  Were you planning on supporting the second bond try?


[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=81687.msg984273#msg984273 date=1300373794]
[quote author=smitty link=topic=81687.msg984269#msg984269 date=1300373456]
Not my fault you can't understand certain things!    ;)    ;D


[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=81687.msg984253#msg984253 date=1300372699]
[quote author=smitty link=topic=81687.msg984250#msg984250 date=1300372607]
[b]Ya'll believe everything in the news?[/b]   ;)


[quote author=dawgnut link=topic=81687.msg984206#msg984206 date=1300369108]
Read? What are you trying to do destroy the ability to spread FUD with facts?
[/quote]
[/quote]


Kind of like believing what you say on a messageboard. ;)
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Not my fault you lack in credibility. ;)
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Yes,Yes and Yes
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That's my answer
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[AggiesAreWe]

I pay taxes in 4 counties.

Support all bonds.

[Guest Brubaker]

The real reason Smitty.  The board got pressure to kill this bond before it got started because it would've been throwing good money away on old buildings.  We don't need to waste millions gussying up old stuff.  IT HAD NOTHING to do with a football stadium.  You are GROSSLY misinformed... GROSSLY.

[Guest Brubaker]

My answers... yes, yes, and depends.  The next bond try can't be a maintenance bond, I would vote NO to throw money at old facilities.  If it's a bond to build new schools, I'm all over it yes.

[Razor]

Would totally NOT support anything that throws more money into old buildings...this has already been done once, to the tune of about $18 million...this would make another $25 million...more repairs will be needed in 5-6 more years so the price tag keeps increasing and we still have 60 year old buildings

[Guest Brubaker]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="984336" timestamp="1300381056"]
I pay taxes in 4 counties.

Support all bonds.


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That's interesting, are you a business owner or property owner?  We have some business/property owners in Nederland who campaigned hard against the last bond.  Give us some of your insight.

[DogOne]

Just curious.  Opponents of the last bond, which was overwhelmingly defeated, were accused of not supporting the kids and being against NISD.  But now it's OK to oppose a bond if you don't personally like it.  I don't understand the difference.

[PN-G bamatex]

This is just my opinion, so take it for what it's worth.

Nederland needs a bond.

With various school organizations and extra-curricular activities, I have been in several high schools. I've been in Nederland, LC-M, Sabine Pass, West Brook, Hamshire-Fannett, Lumberton, a number of high schools outside of this area, and of course PN-G. I [i]used[/i] to think that the old PN-G middle schools were bad. That was before I walked into NHS. I mean no offense to the good people of Nederland - I have many friends there - but that high school is by far in the worst condition of any school I have seen. I have been in schools that were built before NHS that are not in such bad shape. My school was built two decades before NHS and was in better shape before construction for this bond began. I understand the concerns with finances, especially right now, but the citizens of Nederland need to take a walk through NHS's main building and see the bad shape it's in, and then go tour some other local schools. Other parts of the Nederland campus, namely the PAC (because it's only a few years old), are in excellent shape, but the main building needs to be replaced.

[Razor]

Good point, PNG and like it or not, schools in that kind of shape cost serious money to maintain...the question becomes, how long do you keep throwing money into that hole before you find that to be a bad investment...some folks don't see the forest for the trees and what it leads to is a situation that will only continue to worsen...I will get off of my soap box for now...lol

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="Brubaker" post="984356" timestamp="1300383406"]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=81687.msg984336#msg984336 date=1300381056]
I pay taxes in 4 counties.

Support all bonds.


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That's interesting, are you a business owner or property owner?  We have some business/property owners in Nederland who campaigned hard against the last bond.  Give us some of your insight.
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Property owner.

It's a given that the better the schools are, the better the property values are. I support bonds.

[DogOne]

Port Arthur is full of brand new schools and yet no one is beating down the door to move to there.

[Razor]

[quote name="Versey Ledbetter" post="984499" timestamp="1300398484"]
Port Arthur is full of brand new schools and yet no one is beating down the door to move to there.
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They waited too long...everyone was already gone by the time they decided to act

[PoppaBearstarr]

I agree with not throwing new money into an old school, you always seem to get more value in building a new building. Right now it is a hard time because of the economy, but you have to look at it like investing in your community, if you wait to long to do anything, it will cost you a lot more to build later. Like a snowball rolling down hill. Do you do a little every 5 years or a huge one every 40.....

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="Razor" post="984500" timestamp="1300398700"]
[quote author=Versey Ledbetter link=topic=81687.msg984499#msg984499 date=1300398484]
Port Arthur is full of brand new schools and yet no one is beating down the door to move to there.
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They waited too long...everyone was already gone by the time they decided to act
[/quote]this^^^^  .....and im from P.A.

[PhatMack19]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="984467" timestamp="1300396272"]
[quote author=Brubaker link=topic=81687.msg984356#msg984356 date=1300383406]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=81687.msg984336#msg984336 date=1300381056]
I pay taxes in 4 counties.

Support all bonds.
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That's interesting, are you a business owner or property owner?  We have some business/property owners in Nederland who campaigned hard against the last bond.  Give us some of your insight.
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Property owner.

It's a given that the better the schools are, the better the property values are. I support bonds.
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I agree.  Your property value is directly tied to the schools.  I have rental property just like the people who paid to get the bond defeated.  If my taxes go up then the rent goes up too!  I make my money either way and my property maintains or increases in value because people actually want to live here and send their kids to our schools.

I never really understood their logic in paying a guy to shoot down the bond.  It is very short sighted if you ask me.  But then again they are old and could probably careless what happens to Nederland in 20 years.

[SFA85]

[quote name="Versey Ledbetter" post="984499" timestamp="1300398484"]
Port Arthur is full of brand new schools and yet no one is beating down the door to move to there.
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Bottom line is PA does have new schools.  And the refineries haven't left.....

[smitty]

So I presume you do not pay NISD taxes, since you haven't answered.  I was just curious.    ;)

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="984336" timestamp="1300381056"]
I pay taxes in 4 counties.

Support all bonds.


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[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="smitty" post="984577" timestamp="1300408104"]
So I presume you do not pay NISD taxes, since you haven't answered.  I was just curious.    ;)

[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=81687.msg984336#msg984336 date=1300381056]
I pay taxes in 4 counties.

Support all bonds.


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Jefferson, Hardin, Galveston and Henderson counties.

Ned & PNG

[dawgnut]

Aggies you can't use logic with smitty! If you explain to him that you own multiple properties and that you will probably pay more in taxes than the average citizen like I have on several occasions, smitty just changes talking points. He doesn't want truth, he just dislikes all governments, local, state, and federal.

[samsung]

Whats the deal.  In the last bond we were told that this had to be done now!!!  But now they are saying it can wait.  Which is it?

[smitty]

He NEVER answered the specific question.  Or didn't you realize that?  Now he has, finally!  So now I can say what I originally wanted to say.  Which, by the way, also includes you!  ;)    ::)

[quote name="dawgnut" post="984673" timestamp="1300415785"]
Aggies you can't use logic with smitty! If you explain to him that you own multiple properties and that you will probably pay more in taxes than the average citizen like I have on several occasions, smitty just changes talking points. He doesn't want truth, he just dislikes all governments, local, state, and federal.
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