Guest mffl Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="984689" timestamp="1300418064"]And there lies the problem, if a coach thinks LU is a stepping stone, can you imagine what the recruits are thinking.[/quote]I don't believe coaches take a job thinking "once I do well here, I'll be gone in 3 years." The hardest part is doing well. Just ask Roc. Why are we worried about a coach leaving when we haven't had a good one in 20 years??
becktobigs Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 [quote name="mffl" post="984979" timestamp="1300474282"][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81827.msg984689#msg984689 date=1300418064]And there lies the problem, if a coach thinks LU is a stepping stone, can you imagine what the recruits are thinking.[/quote]I don't believe coaches take a job thinking "once I do well here, I'll be gone in 3 years." The hardest part is doing well. Just ask Roc. Why are we worried about a coach leaving when we haven't had a good one in 20 years??[/quote]Half the people on this board were worrying about someone stealing Roc away before he had ever coached one game. They will hire the best coach they can and worry about him leaving when the time comes.
Guest Breakercoach Posted March 19, 2011 Report Posted March 19, 2011 [quote name="coachacola" post="984859" timestamp="1300461859"]I do realize all of that. But I don't see Lamar joining a power conference anytime soon so they will never be place where a good coach will stay for a long time. I'm sure Lamar can find a coach that can win 20 games a year against easy competition and make it to the NCAA tourney every 3 or 4 years only to get blown out in the first round. What's Tidwell to do? Find a hot young coach that will bring instant success then leave in 3 or 4 years or bring in an older "name" coach that will stick around and win 20 games a year but not really win any "big" games. I prefer the high risk/high reward option of a young coach.[/quote]Lamar is a "small" mid major ! The big name "proven" asst. have been here from NC State to Marquette to Memphis and none worked out! You will only build a program to be able to compete with the majors by taking chances and risk ! Same is going to apply to coaching. Sorry not going to get caliapara, phelps, Kryzeski or whoever ! If you did they would struggle anyway!P.S. I cant type either ! ;DSorry I just have this feeling about cross! I think this guy has something special ! Yes it is a jump up to D1, but we havent played D1 yet anyway!
BLUEDOVE3 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 Hopefully a coach with passion for the game AND his players. Players who will follow their coach through hell if need be. Hmm?
weslinder Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="986241" timestamp="1300719401"]Hopefully a coach with passion for the game AND his players. Players who will follow their coach through heck if need be. Hmm?[/quote]Tidwell can't hire himself, can he? ???
epg2793 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 Tidwell ruled himself out at his press conference.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 [quote name="epg2793" post="986536" timestamp="1300759930"]Tidwell ruled himself out at his press conference.[/quote]I don't blame him.
w518991 Posted March 28, 2011 Report Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name="WBbear" post="984704" timestamp="1300420027"][quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=81827.msg984703#msg984703 date=1300419675][quote author=KingSnake link=topic=81827.msg984693#msg984693 date=1300418553]Has anybody noticed what Matt Cross did today?[/quote]Yes, his team beat the No. 1 team in the NJCAA.[/quote]Impressive[/quote]not the answer
KingSnake Posted March 28, 2011 Report Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name="sports1" post="989088" timestamp="1301272122"][quote author=WBbear link=topic=81827.msg984704#msg984704 date=1300420027][quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=81827.msg984703#msg984703 date=1300419675][quote author=KingSnake link=topic=81827.msg984693#msg984693 date=1300418553]Has anybody noticed what Matt Cross did today?[/quote]Yes, his team beat the No. 1 team in the NJCAA.[/quote]Impressive[/quote]not the answer[/quote]Maybe you are asking the wrong question. I think it's time to take a chance. The questions and answers since Pat Foster sure haven't worked .
w518991 Posted March 28, 2011 Report Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name="KingSnake" post="989099" timestamp="1301273783"][quote author=sports1 link=topic=81827.msg989088#msg989088 date=1301272122][quote author=WBbear link=topic=81827.msg984704#msg984704 date=1300420027][quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=81827.msg984703#msg984703 date=1300419675][quote author=KingSnake link=topic=81827.msg984693#msg984693 date=1300418553]Has anybody noticed what Matt Cross did today?[/quote]Yes, his team beat the No. 1 team in the NJCAA.[/quote]Impressive[/quote]not the answer[/quote]Maybe you are asking the wrong question. I think it's time to take a chance. The questions and answers since Pat Foster sure haven't worked .[/quote][quote author=KingSnake link=topic=81827.msg989099#msg989099 date=1301273783][quote author=sports1 link=topic=81827.msg989088#msg989088 date=1301272122][quote author=WBbear link=topic=81827.msg984704#msg984704 date=1300420027][quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=81827.msg984703#msg984703 date=1300419675][quote author=KingSnake link=topic=81827.msg984693#msg984693 date=1300418553]Has anybody noticed what Matt Cross did today?[/quote]Yes, his team beat the No. 1 team in the NJCAA.[/quote]Impressive[/quote]not the answer[/quote]Maybe you are asking the wrong question. I think it's time to take a chance. The questions and answers since Pat Foster sure haven't worked .[/quote]I agree just don't believe Cross is the right chance
KingSnake Posted March 28, 2011 Report Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name="sports1" post="989135" timestamp="1301281514"][quote author=KingSnake link=topic=81827.msg989099#msg989099 date=1301273783][quote author=sports1 link=topic=81827.msg989088#msg989088 date=1301272122][quote author=WBbear link=topic=81827.msg984704#msg984704 date=1300420027][quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=81827.msg984703#msg984703 date=1300419675][quote author=KingSnake link=topic=81827.msg984693#msg984693 date=1300418553]Has anybody noticed what Matt Cross did today?[/quote]Yes, his team beat the No. 1 team in the NJCAA.[/quote]Impressive[/quote]not the answer[/quote]Maybe you are asking the wrong question. I think it's time to take a chance. The questions and answers since Pat Foster sure haven't worked .[/quote][quote author=KingSnake link=topic=81827.msg989099#msg989099 date=1301273783][quote author=sports1 link=topic=81827.msg989088#msg989088 date=1301272122][quote author=WBbear link=topic=81827.msg984704#msg984704 date=1300420027][quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=81827.msg984703#msg984703 date=1300419675][quote author=KingSnake link=topic=81827.msg984693#msg984693 date=1300418553]Has anybody noticed what Matt Cross did today?[/quote]Yes, his team beat the No. 1 team in the NJCAA.[/quote]Impressive[/quote]not the answer[/quote]Maybe you are asking the wrong question. I think it's time to take a chance. The questions and answers since Pat Foster sure haven't worked .[/quote]I agree just don't believe Cross is the right chance[/quote]Mind if I ask what your reasoning is? He has won everywhere he has been, unlike most of the other applicants. And I'm thinking he must be able to recruit to get the caliber of athlete he has at LSCPA.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted March 28, 2011 Report Posted March 28, 2011 The coach (name?) at the Oklahoma D- 2 school would be a good consideration. He's won at all levels he coached. He obviously would be recruiting the same caliber of players Lamar has been recruiting and turn them into winners.
NorthoftheBorder Posted March 28, 2011 Author Report Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name="puddin tane" post="988930" timestamp="1301196982"][size=18pt]Kim Mulkey ;D[/size][/quote]Best thought you have had in while there puddin! Besides being a winner, she is pleasant to the eyes! ;)
JJWooten Posted March 28, 2011 Report Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name="NorthoftheBorder" post="989261" timestamp="1301326872"][quote author=puddin tane link=topic=81827.msg988930#msg988930 date=1301196982][size=18pt]Kim Mulkey ;D[/size][/quote]Best thought you have had in while there puddin! [b]Besides being a winner, she is pleasant to the eyes![/b] ;)[/quote]Please tell me you're joking. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
NorthoftheBorder Posted March 28, 2011 Author Report Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name="JJWooten" post="989276" timestamp="1301327946"][quote author=NorthoftheBorder link=topic=81827.msg989261#msg989261 date=1301326872][quote author=puddin tane link=topic=81827.msg988930#msg988930 date=1301196982][size=18pt]Kim Mulkey ;D[/size][/quote]Best thought you have had in while there puddin! [b]Besides being a winner, she is pleasant to the eyes![/b] ;)[/quote]Please tell me you're joking. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.[/quote]She's more pleasant than any of these gentlemen we are considering! She's a firebrand and a tough competitor, and I still remember her in her playing days at LaTech with that long blond poneytail. Call me what you want but she still aint half bad looking for a women of her age.
JJWooten Posted March 28, 2011 Report Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name="NorthoftheBorder" post="989299" timestamp="1301329985"][quote author=JJWooten link=topic=81827.msg989276#msg989276 date=1301327946][quote author=NorthoftheBorder link=topic=81827.msg989261#msg989261 date=1301326872][quote author=puddin tane link=topic=81827.msg988930#msg988930 date=1301196982][size=18pt]Kim Mulkey ;D[/size][/quote]Best thought you have had in while there puddin! [b]Besides being a winner, she is pleasant to the eyes![/b] ;)[/quote]Please tell me you're joking. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.[/quote]She's more pleasant than any of these gentlemen we are considering! She's a firebrand and a tough competitor, and I still remember her in her playing days at LaTech with that long blond poneytail. Call me what you want but she still aint half bad looking for a women of her age.[/quote]Well, I guess she is better looking than the list of guys previously reported, I'll give you that much.
biglubaby Posted March 28, 2011 Report Posted March 28, 2011 Don Bubba Skelton is the bet guy for this LU job, and if Lamar don't hire him, we are sure going to see some loosing seasons ahead of the program, look at the players he brought in when he was at Lamar , and he baby sat Roc when he won in 2008, well enough said!
badndn Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 [quote name="DP#1FAN" post="990361" timestamp="1301483456"][glow=red,2,300]Winner = Cross[/glow][/quote]Same can be said for Skelton and Evans with more experience than Cross. I would be happy with any one of the three based on the fact that they have been Head Coaches and just flat out win!Skelton has local D1 experience which in addition to his great track record at the JUCO level is why I have him atop my list.Evans has a long history of winning and some D1 experience so I'd have him second on my listCross has produced in short stints. The only negatives on him are he hasn't been anywhere long term (he hasn't won at the same place over and over) of course his age has alot to do with that and the other is no D1 experience. I'd love to see him on the LU bench in charge of a defense learning how the NCAA works and possibly taking over 4 or 5 years down the road when the next guy moves on! Could set LU up for 8-10 years.
sleepy Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 [quote name="badndn" post="990408" timestamp="1301491576"][quote author=DP#1FAN link=topic=81827.msg990361#msg990361 date=1301483456][glow=red,2,300]Winner = Cross[/glow][/quote]Same can be said for Skelton and Evans with more experience than Cross. I would be happy with any one of the three based on the fact that they have been Head Coaches and just flat out win!Skelton has local D1 experience which in addition to his great track record at the JUCO level is why I have him atop my list.Evans has a long history of winning and some D1 experience so I'd have him second on my listCross has produced in short stints. The only negatives on him are he hasn't been anywhere long term (he hasn't won at the same place over and over) of course his age has alot to do with that and the other is no D1 experience. I'd love to see him on the LU bench in charge of a defense learning how the NCAA works and possibly taking over 4 or 5 years down the road when the next guy moves on! Could set LU up for 8-10 years.[/quote]Most people don't win over and over at that level. Once you win a couple of times at a school that hasn't won you generally move on.
becktobigs Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 [quote name="JJWooten" post="989276" timestamp="1301327946"][quote author=NorthoftheBorder link=topic=81827.msg989261#msg989261 date=1301326872][quote author=puddin tane link=topic=81827.msg988930#msg988930 date=1301196982][size=18pt]Kim Mulkey ;D[/size][/quote]Best thought you have had in while there puddin! [b]Besides being a winner, she is pleasant to the eyes![/b] ;)[/quote]Please tell me you're joking. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.[/quote]You don't like dark eyes (and sockets) and John Travolta suits? If she gets some sleep she might be okay and her hair is better....or at least, different from Roc.
badndn Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 [quote name="sleepy" post="990425" timestamp="1301493370"][quote author=badndn link=topic=81827.msg990408#msg990408 date=1301491576][quote author=DP#1FAN link=topic=81827.msg990361#msg990361 date=1301483456][glow=red,2,300]Winner = Cross[/glow][/quote]Same can be said for Skelton and Evans with more experience than Cross. I would be happy with any one of the three based on the fact that they have been Head Coaches and just flat out win!Skelton has local D1 experience which in addition to his great track record at the JUCO level is why I have him atop my list.Evans has a long history of winning and some D1 experience so I'd have him second on my listCross has produced in short stints. The only negatives on him are he hasn't been anywhere long term (he hasn't won at the same place over and over) of course his age has alot to do with that and the other is no D1 experience. I'd love to see him on the LU bench in charge of a defense learning how the NCAA works and possibly taking over 4 or 5 years down the road when the next guy moves on! Could set LU up for 8-10 years.[/quote]Most people don't win over and over at that level. Once you win a couple of times at a school that hasn't won you generally move on.[/quote]Most coaches moving up are on average at each school for 4 to 5 years. This prooves that they can sustain the program. Cross hasn't been at any of the three schools for more than two seasons if I am correct??
sleepy Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 [quote name="badndn" post="990667" timestamp="1301508635"][quote author=sleepy link=topic=81827.msg990425#msg990425 date=1301493370][quote author=badndn link=topic=81827.msg990408#msg990408 date=1301491576][quote author=DP#1FAN link=topic=81827.msg990361#msg990361 date=1301483456][glow=red,2,300]Winner = Cross[/glow][/quote]Same can be said for Skelton and Evans with more experience than Cross. I would be happy with any one of the three based on the fact that they have been Head Coaches and just flat out win!Skelton has local D1 experience which in addition to his great track record at the JUCO level is why I have him atop my list.Evans has a long history of winning and some D1 experience so I'd have him second on my listCross has produced in short stints. The only negatives on him are he hasn't been anywhere long term (he hasn't won at the same place over and over) of course his age has alot to do with that and the other is no D1 experience. I'd love to see him on the LU bench in charge of a defense learning how the NCAA works and possibly taking over 4 or 5 years down the road when the next guy moves on! Could set LU up for 8-10 years.[/quote]Most people don't win over and over at that level. Once you win a couple of times at a school that hasn't won you generally move on.[/quote]Most coaches moving up are on average at each school for 4 to 5 years. This prooves that they can sustain the program. Cross hasn't been at any of the three schools for more than two seasons if I am correct??[/quote]I see where you are coming from now.
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