Silsbee school board meeting tonight to announce coach

[Guest speechless]

There are lots of capacities in which a person can be at a school for many years and not be certified or even degreed.  The only rule for coaching at a school in Texas is that you are a full time employee of the school.  The rules change for head coaching positions of major sports.  That is where the certification issue comes in but there is no time table when it comes to coaching....the time tables deal only with teaching.

[The Cook]

[quote name="speechless" post="1031063" timestamp="1312394257"]
There are lots of capacities in which a person can be at a school for many years and not be certified or even degreed.  The only rule for coaching at a school in Texas is that you are a full time employee of the school.  The rules change for head coaching positions of major sports.  That is where the certification issue comes in but there is no time table when it comes to coaching....the time tables deal only with teaching.
[/quote]And you have to be certified to be a head coach in Texas.

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="speechless" post="1031063" timestamp="1312394257"]
There are lots of capacities in which a person can be at a school for many years and not be certified or even degreed.  The only rule for coaching at a school in Texas is that you are a full time employee of the school.  The rules change for head coaching positions of major sports.  That is where the certification issue comes in but there is no time table when it comes to coaching....the time tables deal only with teaching.
[/quote]


Exactly. Thanks for clearing that up, speechless.

Ira and James have been paraprofessionals in the district for many years and have done a great job. Ira has been my youngest son (who has autism) para and James will be his para this coming school year. All do a fantastic job.

[Guest speechless]

Yes and Kyle Mackey is certified

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="Lt. Dangle" post="1031066" timestamp="1312394488"]
[quote author=speechless link=topic=86248.msg1031063#msg1031063 date=1312394257]
There are lots of capacities in which a person can be at a school for many years and not be certified or even degreed.  The only rule for coaching at a school in Texas is that you are a full time employee of the school.  The rules change for head coaching positions of major sports.  That is where the certification issue comes in but there is no time table when it comes to coaching....the time tables deal only with teaching.
[/quote]And you have to be certified to be a head coach in Texas.
[/quote]


Correct. That is why Coach Mackey will be the interim head coach.

[team first]

Ur rt speechless, and it's called foul play

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="team first" post="1031075" timestamp="1312394767"]
Ur rt speechless, and it's called foul play
[/quote]


How is it foul play if no rules have been broken?

[Guest speechless]

not foul play at all

no rules have been broken

[Guest speechless]

sounds like there may be some bitterness here over not getting an offer

bottom line is school districts have a lot of leeway and it happens all the time

I watched a family member last year get told that they were the #2 choice for an administrative job and the person they were hired had not one college credit to their name for an administrative certificate while my family member had a masters degree and was fully certified

it happens  time to move on

[team first]

The coaching part would have nothing to do with it. It's that an uncertified person is teaching where an certified person could be teaching.

Now with all that being said I think Ira is the best for the job. But it should be done rt.

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="team first" post="1031088" timestamp="1312396709"]
The coaching part would have nothing to do with it. [b]It's that an uncertified person is teaching where an certified person could be teaching. [/b]

Now with all that being said I think Ira is the best for the job. But it should be done rt.
[/quote]


Ira has not been "teaching". He has been a paraprofessional. All schools have paraprofessionals. They are not required to be certified.

[team first]

I stand corrected then.

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="team first" post="1031090" timestamp="1312397125"]
I stand corrected then.
[/quote]


I stated that Coach Brooks and Coach Collins were paraprofessionals a few posts back. ::)

[State Champs 17]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1031091" timestamp="1312397365"]
[quote author=team first link=topic=86248.msg1031090#msg1031090 date=1312397125]
I stand corrected then.
[/quote]


I stated that Coach Brooks and Coach Collins were paraprofessionals a few posts back. ::)
[/quote]
Beaumont Enterprise Said That Silsbee Was Going To Announce The Coach Next Tuesday Is This True?

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="DJG24" post="1031128" timestamp="1312402480"]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=86248.msg1031091#msg1031091 date=1312397365]
[quote author=team first link=topic=86248.msg1031090#msg1031090 date=1312397125]
I stand corrected then.
[/quote]


I stated that Coach Brooks and Coach Collins were paraprofessionals a few posts back. ::)
[/quote]
Beaumont Enterprise Said That Silsbee Was Going To Announce The Coach Next Tuesday Is This True?
[/quote]


I believe that to be true. I was told they could have named one last night and it was expected to be Kyle Mackey. Not sure what has changed but I am still under the impression that Coach Mackey will be named.

[Guest Twig]

[quote name="Lt. Dangle" post="1031066" timestamp="1312394488"]
[quote author=speechless link=topic=86248.msg1031063#msg1031063 date=1312394257]
There are lots of capacities in which a person can be at a school for many years and not be certified or even degreed.  The only rule for coaching at a school in Texas is that you are a full time employee of the school.  The rules change for head coaching positions of major sports.  That is where the certification issue comes in but there is no time table when it comes to coaching....the time tables deal only with teaching.
[/quote]And you have to be certified to be a head coach in Texas.
[/quote]

You would do best staying out of this dangle. You clearly don't know what you are talking about!

[The Cook]

[quote name="Twig" post="1031141" timestamp="1312403923"]
[quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=86248.msg1031066#msg1031066 date=1312394488]
[quote author=speechless link=topic=86248.msg1031063#msg1031063 date=1312394257]
There are lots of capacities in which a person can be at a school for many years and not be certified or even degreed.  The only rule for coaching at a school in Texas is that you are a full time employee of the school.  The rules change for head coaching positions of major sports.  That is where the certification issue comes in but there is no time table when it comes to coaching....the time tables deal only with teaching.
[/quote]And you have to be certified to be a head coach in Texas.
[/quote]

You would do best staying out of this dangle. You clearly don't know what you are talking about!
[/quote]Truly Twiggy, when is the last time you saw a sub-varsity coach in Texas featured in FXSW " High School Spotlight". Thank you , I knew the answer already....NEVER

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="Lt. Dangle" post="1031470" timestamp="1312477213"]
[quote author=Twig link=topic=86248.msg1031141#msg1031141 date=1312403923]
[quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=86248.msg1031066#msg1031066 date=1312394488]
[quote author=speechless link=topic=86248.msg1031063#msg1031063 date=1312394257]
There are lots of capacities in which a person can be at a school for many years and not be certified or even degreed.  The only rule for coaching at a school in Texas is that you are a full time employee of the school.  The rules change for head coaching positions of major sports.  That is where the certification issue comes in but there is no time table when it comes to coaching....the time tables deal only with teaching.
[/quote]And you have to be certified to be a head coach in Texas.
[/quote]

You would do best staying out of this dangle. You clearly don't know what you are talking about!
[/quote]Truly Twiggy, when is the last time you saw a sub-varsity coach in Texas featured in FXSW " High School Spotlight". Thank you , I knew the answer already....NEVER
[/quote]


You still haven't answered my question about explaining the "foul play" remark.

[stevenash]

[quote name="Lt. Dangle" post="1031470" timestamp="1312477213"]
[quote author=Twig link=topic=86248.msg1031141#msg1031141 date=1312403923]
[quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=86248.msg1031066#msg1031066 date=1312394488]
[quote author=speechless link=topic=86248.msg1031063#msg1031063 date=1312394257]
There are lots of capacities in which a person can be at a school for many years and not be certified or even degreed.  The only rule for coaching at a school in Texas is that you are a full time employee of the school.  The rules change for head coaching positions of major sports.  That is where the certification issue comes in but there is no time table when it comes to coaching....the time tables deal only with teaching.
[/quote]And you have to be certified to be a head coach in Texas.
[/quote]

You would do best staying out of this dangle. You clearly don't know what you are talking about!
[/quote]Truly Twiggy, when is the last time you saw a sub-varsity coach in Texas featured in FXSW " High School Spotlight". Thank you , I knew the answer already....NEVER
[/quote]

Sorry, but being featured in FXSW is not what is used as a hiring criterion.

[The Cook]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1031485" timestamp="1312479078"]
[quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=86248.msg1031470#msg1031470 date=1312477213]
[quote author=Twig link=topic=86248.msg1031141#msg1031141 date=1312403923]
[quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=86248.msg1031066#msg1031066 date=1312394488]
[quote author=speechless link=topic=86248.msg1031063#msg1031063 date=1312394257]
There are lots of capacities in which a person can be at a school for many years and not be certified or even degreed.  The only rule for coaching at a school in Texas is that you are a full time employee of the school.  The rules change for head coaching positions of major sports.  That is where the certification issue comes in but there is no time table when it comes to coaching....the time tables deal only with teaching.
[/quote]And you have to be certified to be a head coach in Texas.
[/quote]Nash, Thats not why that was said. It was in response to Sleepy saying that Ira was well respected in local coaching circles & even more so across the state of Texas. It didn't have anything to do with certification.

You would do best staying out of this dangle. You clearly don't know what you are talking about!
[/quote]Truly Twiggy, when is the last time you saw a sub-varsity coach in Texas featured in FXSW " High School Spotlight". Thank you , I knew the answer already....NEVER
[/quote]

Sorry, but being featured in FXSW is not what is used as a hiring criterion.
[/quote]

[The Cook]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1031485" timestamp="1312479078"]
[quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=86248.msg1031470#msg1031470 date=1312477213]
[quote author=Twig link=topic=86248.msg1031141#msg1031141 date=1312403923]
[quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=86248.msg1031066#msg1031066 date=1312394488]
[quote author=speechless link=topic=86248.msg1031063#msg1031063 date=1312394257]
There are lots of capacities in which a person can be at a school for many years and not be certified or even degreed.  The only rule for coaching at a school in Texas is that you are a full time employee of the school.  The rules change for head coaching positions of major sports.  That is where the certification issue comes in but there is no time table when it comes to coaching....the time tables deal only with teaching.
[/quote]And you have to be certified to be a head coach in Texas.
[/quote]

You would do best staying out of this dangle. You clearly don't know what you are talking about!
[/quote]Truly Twiggy, when is the last time you saw a sub-varsity coach in Texas featured in FXSW " High School Spotlight". Thank you , I knew the answer already....NEVER
[/quote]

Sorry, but being featured in FXSW is not what is used as a hiring criterion.
[/quote]Nash, thats not why that was said. It was said because Sleepy posted that Ira was well respected in local  coaching circles and even more so across the state of Texas. Nothing to do with certification.

[True Blue]

Well I dont have a dog in this race, but I went and looked it up . You do not have to be certified in anything to be a coach in the state of texas. Now some schools might not wont to hire a coach that is not cert. do to him not being able to teach a class. But to be a coach in Texas all you have to be is employed by the school dist.

[The Cook]

[quote name="True Blue" post="1031793" timestamp="1312551812"]
Well I dont have a dog in this race, but I went and looked it up . You do not have to be certified in anything to be a coach in the state of texas. Now some schools might not wont to hire a coach that is not cert. do to him not being able to teach a class. But to be a coach in Texas all you have to be is employed by the school dist.
[/quote]To be a HEAD coach of any sport, you have to be certified! Otherwise, to the highest bidder goes the high profile coach from wherever he may come from.

[True Blue]

[quote name="Lt. Dangle" post="1031795" timestamp="1312552568"]
[quote author=True Blue link=topic=86248.msg1031793#msg1031793 date=1312551812]
Well I dont have a dog in this race, but I went and looked it up . You do not have to be certified in anything to be a coach in the state of texas. Now some schools might not wont to hire a coach that is not cert. do to him not being able to teach a class. But to be a coach in Texas all you have to be is employed by the school dist.
[/quote]To be a HEAD coach of any sport, you have to be certified! Otherwise, to the highest bidder goes the high profile coach from wherever he may come from.
[/quote] Sorry but there is no certifition for coaching, there is certified teachers, but not in coaching. To be a coach you only need be  employed by the school. You can be the cook and be a coach.

[the sports guy]

While working at SISD Ira continued to go to school and got his degree.  He has worked a full time job that requires around 70 hours a week.  Gone to school at night and summers.  Raised a family. And coached in a way that makes boys into men. 

Who in their right mind can say they wouldnt want a person like that leading their child?  He set his goal and is working hard to get it.  Determination.

If Silsbee hires an interum coach and gives Ira one year to get certified, I am ok with it.  If your not.....dont care....go sit on an egg. :D