Verifying

[MoFo]

I heard a rumour that the PA Titans had no paperwork for any player at the certification. I heard they will be allowed to participate during the season but not the playoffs. Just seeing if this is true and where the ball was dropped (pardon the pun).

[One4All]

[quote name="MoFo" post="1040566" timestamp="1314288538"]
I heard a rumour that the PA Titans had no paperwork for any player at the certification. I heard they will be allowed to participate during the season but not the playoffs. Just seeing if this is true and where the ball was dropped (pardon the pun).
[/quote] please stay in your own league.............

[thetragichippy]

[quote name="One4All" post="1040587" timestamp="1314290631"]
[quote author=MoFo link=topic=87137.msg1040566#msg1040566 date=1314288538]
I heard a rumour that the PA Titans had no paperwork for any player at the certification. I heard they will be allowed to participate during the season but not the playoffs. Just seeing if this is true and where the ball was dropped (pardon the pun).
[/quote] please stay in your own league.............
[/quote]

Since they are in STJFL and they are competitors, it seems like a perfectly good question. I would like to know what happened as well.

[TradinUp BH]

There are some issues before certification, but I've HEARD several different stories and without knowing the truth, I don't feel comfortable commenting.

[thetragichippy]

[quote name="Scalp'em" post="1040678" timestamp="1314300862"]
There are some issues before certification, but I've HEARD several different stories and without knowing the truth, I don't feel comfortable commenting.
[/quote]

don't blame ya.....lol

[KF89]

u know the guys who r on the stjfl board call them,dont blow this up on the messege board.

[MoFo]

Ok...was a simple question, figured it would be better to ask the truth on here as oppossed to hearing all the rumors out there.......was just wondering if it was a lack of communication, or if the coaches in PA needed some assitants in learning the proper ways of certifying, I know from experience it can be a very confussing process.

[MoFo]

Most of you know me on here was not trying to stir crap was just wondering where the breakdown (IF there was a breakdown) stemmed from.

[thetragichippy]

[quote name="MoFo" post="1041047" timestamp="1314364279"]
Most of you know me on here was not trying to stir crap was just wondering where the breakdown (IF there was a breakdown) stemmed from.
[/quote]

MoFo.....I still think it's a valid question. There is a lot of rumors spreading about this....

[MoFo]

Yes it is not like everyone hasnt heard. I have heard from one extreme to the other and figure the truth is somewhere in the middle.

I coached for Beaumont the first year and we (and I stress we with me included) made some "rookie" mistakes also. I think it is expected to happen with the formation of a new team, the best thing is to learn from it and try and prevent it from happening again.

[thetragichippy]

[quote name="MoFo" post="1041174" timestamp="1314372504"]
Yes it is not like everyone hasnt heard. I have heard from one extreme to the other and figure the truth is somewhere in the middle.

I coached for Beaumont the first year and we (and I stress we with me included) made some "rookie" mistakes also. I think it is expected to happen with the formation of a new team, the best thing is to learn from it and try and prevent it from happening again.
[/quote]

agreed......maybe a rep from STJFL should guide a new team through their first certification. Just a thought....

[KF89]

the presidents name& number is listed on the stjfl web site if u guys want valid answers to the valid questions.the stjfl does everything possible to help & assist new/old teams with any problems that arise.most of the rules that are broken are common sense & are found on the web site.

[SmashMouth]

Regardless of inncocent rookie mistakes...hand-picking a team and only allowing certain players to play on a team is more than an oversight of confusing rules.

[sportsfan94]

Sounds like a very valid question to me ... I understand the whole certification process might be confusing but in my opinion if paperwork is not in order they should not be allowed to play ... i would be all for the league giving them extra time and/or help with it .. but just saying oh well, you didnt get your stuff together .. you can play anyway doesnt seem fair!  Just my opinion ..

[queenb77630]

[quote name="sportsfan94" post="1041343" timestamp="1314386665"]
Sounds like a very valid question to me ... I understand the whole certification process might be confusing but in my opinion if paperwork is not in order they should not be allowed to play ... i would be all for the league giving them extra time and/or help with it .. but just saying oh well, you didnt get your stuff together .. you can play anyway doesnt seem fair!  Just my opinion ..
[/quote]
I'm with you on this one. 

[hookem1968]

The STJFL Board addressed the issue - your local board members should be able to give you all of the details but basically, PA admitted they screwed up, the board is giving them a second chance and will be involved in future registrations, etc. and they cannot make the playoffs this year...seems like a fair decision to me.  Like I said, your local board can probably give you all the intimate details.

[BULLDOGMANIA]

You guys need to let the STJFL board take care of STJFL matters.   

[marvin]

Come on now Guys...what did you expect??? We sent word when they started practice in June ;)

[SmashMouth]

Definitely an STJFL board matter; however, it's too bad that a group of adult coaches had to sour the post season chances for a group of kids that had no part in the matter (except for doing what they were told).  Gotta play by the rules coaches!  Like I said in my post earlier, it was more than just a small innocent oversight.  Those guys intentionally broke the rules.  Sorry kids...

[queenb77630]

The first I heard about this was on this forum.  I have read the posts and I have this to say:

It appears that PA did not have their children certified as required.  The STJFL had dates and times posted well in advance.  I am sure individual team presidents knew of the date and times without having to check the STJFL website.  They are being allowed to play anyway despite not following the rules that are set out in order to participate.

Certifications are in place to make sure that the players meet the age, weight, grade, and residence requirements.  If the children are not going through this process, then why were the other teams made to do it?  If one does not do it; then no one should have had to do it.

Before anyone jumps on my case: I think the children should be able to play.  It's not their faults the adults messed up.  I don't know what the solution is to this mess.  My first thought was to have them certify NOW; however, games have already started.  I just hope that none of the kids get hurt while playing against the PA teams and it is found out that because they were never required to certify, the PA child was in the wrong league (not sure if that is the right word) and should have been in a higher one due to weight or age.  Or did not meet the residence requirements to play on the PA team.

That is just my opinion and I'm sure I will get a lot of backlash from it.  Not trying to be mean to anyone so please, if you do comment, don't be mean to me.

[Gusher]

The STJFL has board meetings 6-8 the first Wednesday of each month. I am sure this has been or will be worked out.