Conroe Oak Ridge vs. Baytown Sterling Game Thread/Oak Ridge wins!

[WOSgrad]

7:00 p.m. from Stallworth Stadium in Baytown

[Guest UHCoog14]

7:27 to go in 1st

OR    6
Rss  0

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end of 1st

OR    6
RSS    0

U G L Y

[Guest UHCoog14]

5:47 left in 2nd

OR double reverse pass. 2 pt conversion is good.

OR    14
RSS    0

[Guest UHCoog14]

5:31 to go in 2nd

OR fumble return for TD

OR    21
Rss      0

[Guest UHCoog14]

28-0

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half

OR  28
RSS  7

RSS scores on last play of the half.

[Guest UHCoog14]

6:26 to go in 3rd

OR  34
RSS  7

I'm out.

[gary-us-bonds]

Man the Baytown teams just are horrible as a whole.
GCM has the best chance to be average I guess.

[Steven Avery]

All the Baytown schools are terrible and I blame GCCISD for their hires. All three coaches are in way over their heads.

Score when I left 48-7. Option offense again terrible, only score was a fly ball thrown short to gibson who came back to get it and then juked a defender to score as the half ran out. So much for controlling the clock and having a good defense, good grief.

[LP0175]

So much for that high scoring spread offense Lee runs. So exciting!

[QB01]

[quote name="joebob" post="1058720" timestamp="1316228463"]
All the Baytown schools are terrible and I blame GCCISD for their hires. All three coaches are in way over their heads.
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I don't get this statement.  Two of the three head coaches have been successful other places.  Not sure how they are in over their heads.  Maybe more like you don't agree with what they are doing.

[gary-us-bonds]

All the scores come through Gibson, so why the hell don't they throw him the ball more lol.
It's really unbelievable.

And what does Lee having a high-powered offense have to do with Sterling and Oak Ridge?

Sedberry certainly was not successful anywhere that would actually matter.
He went 3-6 and 4-6 at his previous job.  His claims of doubling participation at that school are certainly not being seen at Lee.

He should talk to Olin and take notes on how to increase participation.

Olin went 0-10 his first year and had probably 12 seniors.
Went 5-5 his second year and then 9-3 and beat Eisenhower in the playoffs his third year.  By the 4th year, which was Olin's first graduating class, they must have had 30 seniors.

Sedberry took what Olin had built, albeit falling off towards the end, and limped to a 3-8 record the first year, 1-9 the second year and more of the same this year.  The team has gotten progressively worse fundamentally.

Back to the game thread though.

[Steven Avery]

[quote name="LP0175" post="1058730" timestamp="1316228838"]
So much for that high scoring spread offense Lee runs. So exciting!
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Yes because Lee is very [s]disciplined[/s] in their offense lol, give me a break. Lee man run a "spread" but if its anything more than just running around trying to make something happened I sure havent seen it. I wonder if they actually watch film and have any scheme before the game? Lee has athletes and should be winning more games, especially at the 4a level.

GCM is by far the one school I havent watched much of, but again I know they have athletes but every week I hear the same story about beating themselves with missed assignments, poor tackling, penalties, etc etc...Good programs and good coaches correct those things but yet here we are in what year 4 or 5 still dealing with the same issues? Where is the improvement?  I would venture to say GCM has better skill athletes than BH so where are the results?

At Sterling, you hired a guy that had one great year at CL running the option. He also had a stud QB that knew the option inside and out. I would venture to say CL's offensive line has 50 pounds on average more than Sterling does so they are able to move and control the line of scrimmage. Have you seen Sterlings line? The defense just  muggs the line of scrimmage because there is virtually no threat of throwing the ball and its almost like running into a wall over and over and over. Its suppose to control the clock but what is happening is the Offense goes three and out most of the time or fumbles which is wearing the defense out. The last two games have been 6-0 at half and 6-0 after end of 1.  Although the D isnt great it just cant keep bailing out the offense.

Im telling you the younger kids ar getting frustrated with it. The freshman group that only lost a couple of games their jr high careers have now lost 2 in a row with last game scoring zero points on offense. They are starting to question the schemes when teams like oak ridge running the spread scored at will. Hopefully they stick with it or dont transfer but I would not be shocked to see some mass exodus from the program, and if that happens its spells doom as the future is with these 9th graders.

[Guest UHCoog14]

Why don't these kids (and  their parents) stop questioning the schemes and just  do their jobs.

I've been aound HS football and coaches for a long time. I have yet to meet a coach  that did not want to be successful.

I say we give Coach Adudel at least a year  to  get his program in place before we pass judgement. What most of the players at RSS lack is  discipline. My biggest disappointment from last night was  that Gibson was even allowed to remain in the game after throwing a punch in the 1st quarter.
Other than that, I'm willing to see what year 2 brings.

[sahen]

Sterling's coach needs to do something...this isn't 1960 where the kids will stay at your school and you get 4 years to mold them if his teams keep doing this he will start bleeding athletes...he is absolutely wasting Gibson and it is sad casue that kid should have an opportunity to play on saturdays at a good school...i have never seen a team run the triple option attack this bad, i know it is his first year but good lord it is almost comical how bad they are at it...the amazing thing is the defense is actually a lot better than last year (though, it was so bad im not sure that is hard to do) but the offense is giving up just as many points as the defense is it seems...

[Guest UHCoog14]

Gibson has already verballed to atm.

If you can play,they will find you no matter what.

[gary-us-bonds]

Clear Lake still looked pretty stout on offense last year.
Much better execution than this Sterling team obviously. 
I understand the frustration with the coaching, but you have to give the guy a couple of years to get the system in place.  You don't just start implementing this offense and look like a well-oiled machine the first year.
Think back to Olin's 0-10 year.  Lee looked bad.
It's obvious Sterling does not have the guys to run the offense right now.
The qb is good, though he has no idea how to run the offense.  Outside of that Franklin is more of a slot receiver type, then you have the punter playing fullback.  And not a fullback that happens to be able to punt.  This is a punter that just go stuck back at fullback near as I can tell.

If they can find a qb smart enough to run the offense, then just give it to next year at the very least.

[Guest UHCoog14]

The FB is punting because the K/P was dismissed from the team.

[Steven Avery]

Pats I guess its because it goes on year after year and year and nothing ever changes. No team ever turns the corner and starts winning. When is the last time we had a legit playoff team? When tate was here? Making it as the 4th team out of 6 team district is just charity and most of those teams dont even deserve the extra game.

I thought Aduddel would atleast bring discipline and I think to a certain extent he has, it has much more than they had under minyard. But you risk the chance that if your true stars screw up of not having any studs so if you are going to talk the talk they should have sat gibson. I missed the play but saw the penalty was on oak ridge so I didnt see the punch and wonder if he did throw a punch why was the penalty on the other team?

[Steven Avery]

do you think mack brown wanted to go 5-7 last year? Fact is some coaches are too stubborn to admit their mistakes, brown finally woke up and got rid of his offensive coordinator. This year in 1.5 games the new guys figured out gilbert isnt the guy and put up 49 points today with a ton of freshman. Sometimes coaches refuse to admit they are wrong.

[quote name="GCMPats" post="1059104" timestamp="1316280280"]
Why don't these kids (and  their parents) stop questioning the schemes and just  do their jobs.

I've been aound HS football and coaches for a long time. I have yet to meet a coach  that did not want to be successful.

I say we give Coach Adudel at least a year  to  get his program in place before we pass judgement. What most of the players at RSS lack is  discipline. My biggest disappointment from last night was  that Gibson was even allowed to remain in the game after throwing a punch in the 1st quarter.
Other than that, I'm willing to see what year 2 brings.
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[SFA85]

Y'all talk as if Baytown was some bastion of good football.  Lee played Sissy Ball under Olin and despite having 5 QBs in a row, could barely make it to the 2nd round.  I work with a guy who was @Sterling the last time they were descent which was around '87 so either close Lee/Memorial and go back to 2 schools or move some kids from Sterling to Lee so all 3 schools can play 4A ball....

[Steven Avery]

The Qb has been moved to defense. They are running two sophs out there right now.

Gibson has verbaled to atm but chance nelson supposedly has left school this week so they are worried he will not go now.


As for having all three schools 4a, I agree 100%. There is no reason why sterling should be a 5a school. Rezone so they are all 4a and in the same district.

[quote name="panamamyers" post="1059230" timestamp="1316293258"]
Clear Lake still looked pretty stout on offense last year.
Much better execution than this Sterling team obviously. 
I understand the frustration with the coaching, but you have to give the guy a couple of years to get the system in place.  You don't just start implementing this offense and look like a well-oiled machine the first year.
Think back to Olin's 0-10 year.  Lee looked bad.
It's obvious Sterling does not have the guys to run the offense right now.
The qb is good, though he has no idea how to run the offense.  Outside of that Franklin is more of a slot receiver type, then you have the punter playing fullback.  And not a fullback that happens to be able to punt.  This is a punter that just go stuck back at fullback near as I can tell.

If they can find a qb smart enough to run the offense, then just give it to next year at the very least.
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[Steven Avery]

I dont know about sissy ball but thats what is frustrating about this system. We finally have good talent in the freshman ranks that is being wasted in this system.  These kids could put something together but Im afraid this system handicapps them so much they wont be able to do it. Zero points for the 9a team thursday, the same kids that thrashed everyone for the past two years outside of dayton who just had a much better system at the jr high level.  These kids beat both north shore jr highs so you cant tell me the talent isnt there.

[quote name="SFA85" post="1059367" timestamp="1316303762"]
Y'all talk as if Baytown was some bastion of good football.  Lee played Sissy Ball under Olin and despite having 5 QBs in a row, could barely make it to the 2nd round.  I work with a guy who was @Sterling the last time they were descent which was around '87 so either close Lee/Memorial and go back to 2 schools or move some kids from Sterling to Lee so all 3 schools can play 4A ball....
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[SFA85]

[quote name="joebob" post="1059373" timestamp="1316304116"]
I dont know about sissy ball but thats what is frustrating about this system. We finally have good talent in the freshman ranks that is being wasted in this system.  These kids could put something together but Im afraid this system handicapps them so much they wont be able to do it. Zero points for the 9a team thursday, the same kids that thrashed everyone for the past two years outside of dayton who just had a much better system at the jr high level.  These kids beat both north shore jr highs so you cant tell me the talent isnt there.

[quote author=SFA85 link=topic=88371.msg1059367#msg1059367 date=1316303762]
Y'all talk as if Baytown was some bastion of good football.  Lee played Sissy Ball under Olin and despite having 5 QBs in a row, could barely make it to the 2nd round.  I work with a guy who was @Sterling the last time they were descent which was around '87 so either close Lee/Memorial and go back to 2 schools or move some kids from Sterling to Lee so all 3 schools can play 4A ball....
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I refer to all spread offenses as Sissy Ball.....