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Mr. Blitz

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Let the rest of this season play out Longhorns.  When you have a total overhaul you don't always see the results that season or the very next.  It is as much about attitude and effort as it is talent.  Everyone one of Coach Price's teams have played with a great attitude and a great effort.  Eventually the offseason program will begin showing on the field, just like "well coached execution".  I can promise the talent pool in BH isn't that much greater than in HF.  Let this season run it's course and put another class of Longhorns through the offseason program and the Price system.  I can assure you that results will follow.  I know its hard to watch now but success is coming.
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I can assure you that coach PRICE has improved the kids at HF.we have just have to get used to being the better TEAM on the field and off good post let the season play out.AND if you dont like what he has done and what he is doing get a coaching certification.NOT being smart but thats why the kids dont believe in themselves take time and talk to the kids if you really care about winning.
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Riding Solo

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IMO and this happens at most schools, parents display way to much negativity towards coaches and other kids infront of their kids. Therefore the bad attitudes occur and eventually resulting in the kid not playing anymore. Therefore sometimes your good athletes are walking the halls or specializing in one sport.
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I would also like to say that it will be hard for Orangefield, HF or HJ to compete in football on a regular basis with the likes of WOS, Silsbee or Bridge City. Orangefield has had one winning season since 2003. I also think it is a phase, I mean HF will have some good groups come through and they will compete. It just won't be every year like it was before some 4A teams dropped to 3A. Bridge City has 1000 more kids than Orangefield. Numbers do matter IMO. If Orangefield, HF and HJ really start to grow you will see a change. Won't see in my time, I don't think.
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There are instances of a new coach and system that comes to a school and has instant success, but they are not the norm. An entire program, all the way from Jr. high , has to be implemented and given enough time for it to grow through to high school. Then a winning attitude has to be nurtured to be successful. This comes from not only the coaches, but the entire community, then it becomes "tradition".
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[quote name="Riding Solo" post="1059115" timestamp="1316281219"]
I would also like to say that it will be hard for Orangefield, HF or HJ to compete in football on a regular basis with the likes of WOS, Silsbee or Bridge City. Orangefield has had one winning season since 2003. I also think it is a phase, I mean HF will have some good groups come through and they will compete. It just won't be every year like it was before some 4A teams dropped to 3A. Bridge City has 1000 more kids than Orangefield. Numbers do matter IMO. If Orangefield, HF and HJ really start to grow you will see a change. Won't see in my time, I don't think.
[/quote]No way BC could have a 1000 more kids than Orangefield I think its prob. like 300 or 400.
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Riding Solo

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[quote name="77" post="1059136" timestamp="1316283035"]
[quote author=Riding Solo link=topic=88396.msg1059115#msg1059115 date=1316281219]
I would also like to say that it will be hard for Orangefield, HF or HJ to compete in football on a regular basis with the likes of WOS, Silsbee or Bridge City. Orangefield has had one winning season since 2003. I also think it is a phase, I mean HF will have some good groups come through and they will compete. It just won't be every year like it was before some 4A teams dropped to 3A. Bridge City has 1000 more kids than Orangefield. Numbers do matter IMO. If Orangefield, HF and HJ really start to grow you will see a change. Won't see in my time, I don't think.
[/quote]No way BC could have a 1000 more kids than Orangefield I think its prob. like 300 or 400.
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I saw it in the Orange leader BC has 2700 students Orangefield has 1700. Call the orange leader if you like. It was there in black and white.
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AggiesAreWe

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[quote name="Riding Solo" post="1059138" timestamp="1316283232"]
[quote author=77 link=topic=88396.msg1059136#msg1059136 date=1316283035]
[quote author=Riding Solo link=topic=88396.msg1059115#msg1059115 date=1316281219]
I would also like to say that it will be hard for Orangefield, HF or HJ to compete in football on a regular basis with the likes of WOS, Silsbee or Bridge City. Orangefield has had one winning season since 2003. I also think it is a phase, I mean HF will have some good groups come through and they will compete. It just won't be every year like it was before some 4A teams dropped to 3A. Bridge City has 1000 more kids than Orangefield. Numbers do matter IMO. If Orangefield, HF and HJ really start to grow you will see a change. Won't see in my time, I don't think.
[/quote]No way BC could have a 1000 more kids than Orangefield I think its prob. like 300 or 400.
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I saw it in the Orange leader BC has 2700 students Orangefield has 1700. Call the orange leader if you like. It was there in black and white.
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That's K-12. For realignment purposes, the UIL only uses the high school enrollment. BC has about 150 more students than Orangefield at the high school.
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Riding Solo

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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1059139" timestamp="1316283464"]
[quote author=Riding Solo link=topic=88396.msg1059138#msg1059138 date=1316283232]
[quote author=77 link=topic=88396.msg1059136#msg1059136 date=1316283035]
[quote author=Riding Solo link=topic=88396.msg1059115#msg1059115 date=1316281219]
I would also like to say that it will be hard for Orangefield, HF or HJ to compete in football on a regular basis with the likes of WOS, Silsbee or Bridge City. Orangefield has had one winning season since 2003. I also think it is a phase, I mean HF will have some good groups come through and they will compete. It just won't be every year like it was before some 4A teams dropped to 3A. Bridge City has 1000 more kids than Orangefield. Numbers do matter IMO. If Orangefield, HF and HJ really start to grow you will see a change. Won't see in my time, I don't think.
[/quote]No way BC could have a 1000 more kids than Orangefield I think its prob. like 300 or 400.
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I saw it in the Orange leader BC has 2700 students Orangefield has 1700. Call the orange leader if you like. It was there in black and white.
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That's K-12. For realignment purposes, the UIL only uses the high school enrollment. BC has about 150 more students than Orangefield at the high school.
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Yes, that is total enrollment. ;D I think it is more than 150 but not much more in the high school. All you have to do is look at how many kids are on the sidelines friday nights. There is a big difference.
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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1059153" timestamp="1316285041"]
From the last realignment:

Bridge City      714
Orangefield    542


BC with 172 more students than Orangefield.
[/quote]Thanks thats about what I thought!  Somebody just a little confused.
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[quote name="77" post="1059171" timestamp="1316287386"]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=88396.msg1059153#msg1059153 date=1316285041]
From the last realignment:

Bridge City      714
Orangefield    542


BC with 172 more students than Orangefield.
[/quote]Thanks thats about what I thought!  Somebody just a little confused.
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Nope not confused. I was talking about total enrollment.
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Riding Solo

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[quote name="Scalp'em" post="1059331" timestamp="1316300997"]
[b]District 21[/b]
Bridge City 714
Hamshire-Fannett 527
Orangefield 542
Silsbee 853
Sour Lake Hardin-Jefferson 586
West Orange-Stark 699

Not a huge difference!
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Maybe its not but it is enough. If you break it down and say that half are girls and half is boys that is 86 or 21 more boys per class. Before you start I do realize that not all boys are in athletics. Lets say half 43 boy are in athletics from 9th to 12th. 43 is enough to make another varsity team. In 3A on down it does matter. In 4A on up it does not. You experts think I am whinning. No I am not, I am realistic. Now people will say how does 2A Newton compete with the big boys? Different breed of kids. They are still "old school", just like WOS. You don't see many parents visiting the coaches office to complain at those schools.
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[quote name="Riding Solo" post="1059482" timestamp="1316310372"]
[quote author=Gasilla link=topic=88396.msg1059324#msg1059324 date=1316300651]
"Expert" parents are the worst for building programs.
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My point Gasilla!!! Atleast one of them. ;D ;D
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Riding Solo

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[quote name="77" post="1059528" timestamp="1316312318"]
Keep telling those kids they cant compete because they dont have the numbers.. ::)
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What ever dude, not telling the kids anything. I think by saying something it should be motivation. You either have character or you don't. Are you part of the give every kid a ribbon generation????? They can either say yes I am right and give up or they can prove me wrong. The strong survive the weak do not. That is life, deal with it.
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the sports guy

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[quote name="Riding Solo" post="1059469" timestamp="1316309294"]
[quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=88396.msg1059331#msg1059331 date=1316300997]
[b]District 21[/b]
Bridge City 714
Hamshire-Fannett 527
Orangefield 542
Silsbee 853
Sour Lake Hardin-Jefferson 586
West Orange-Stark 699

Not a huge difference!
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Maybe its not but it is enough. If you break it down and say that half are girls and half is boys that is 86 or 21 more boys per class. Before you start I do realize that not all boys are in athletics. Lets say half 43 boy are in athletics from 9th to 12th. 43 is enough to make another varsity team. In 3A on down it does matter. In 4A on up it does not. You experts think I am whinning. No I am not, I am realistic. Now people will say how does 2A Newton compete with the big boys? Different breed of kids. They are still "old school", just like WOS. You don't see many parents visiting the coaches office to complain at those schools.
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I dont get it.  Are you saying that HF is a bunch of girls? ;D
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