Cheermom4 Posted September 25, 2011 Report Posted September 25, 2011 [quote name="dmeast11111" post="1065419" timestamp="1316906586"]Ok guys we were all teenagers and made some bad decisions....Just leave it alone... i mean really, really.... Let he who has never done something stupid as a young person cast the first stone.....[b]to be real honest... it is none of our business[/b].... I know you dont want your kids issues announced on the front page... I promise your kids are not perfect either....[/quote]YEAH THAT
bobbymcgee Posted September 25, 2011 Report Posted September 25, 2011 [quote name="tjcfan08" post="1065541" timestamp="1316913699"]My opinion for what it's worth.....What happen to a Head Coach handling a situation on HIS team with a good ole fashion A$$ whipping???? Kids will be kids - nothing has changed since we were there - BUT the way we discipline them NOW....Who are we punishing here, THE TEAM!!!! Fight for what you believe in Bulldogs and know where your highly spirited teammates are at ALL TIMES.... :D. [/quote]We need more people that think like you!
adminbaberuth Posted September 25, 2011 Report Posted September 25, 2011 [quote name="bobbymcgee" post="1065571" timestamp="1316915225"][quote author=tjcfan08 link=topic=88772.msg1065541#msg1065541 date=1316913699]My opinion for what it's worth.....What happen to a Head Coach handling a situation on HIS team with a good ole fashion A$$ whipping???? Kids will be kids - nothing has changed since we were there - BUT the way we discipline them NOW....Who are we punishing here, THE TEAM!!!! Fight for what you believe in Bulldogs and know where your highly spirited teammates are at ALL TIMES.... :D. [/quote]We need more people that think like you![/quote]I'm old school also. I can't remember a player every being suspended in 60-70's unless he was in jail. Some were released Friday to play and went back Saturday.
Cool Hand Luke Posted September 25, 2011 Report Posted September 25, 2011 Unfortunately old school isn't accepted anymore. Schools now have to send forms home for permission to inflict corporal punishment. I know from personal experience that since the late 70's Nederland has suspended players from participating in extracurricular activities for drinking at school. As a parent, my kid would not play again this season. Doesn't matter what the school imposed.....I know you say it is punishing the team but my job as a parent is to raise my kid....furthermore, instead of punishing the team, it sends the message that playing is a privilege and self-discipline is necessary to play. That can actually help a team. It gives some other players the chance to step up. Mistakes happen but there are consequences and the players knew that before they made the poor choice. They weren't thinking about the team by their actions. Hopefully they learn from it and move on since they still have another year left after this one.
pngpurple4ever Posted September 25, 2011 Report Posted September 25, 2011 [quote name="Cool Hand Luke" post="1065729" timestamp="1316951213"]Unfortunately old school isn't accepted anymore. Schools now have to send forms home for permission to inflict corporal punishment. I know from personal experience that since the late 70's Nederland has suspended players from participating in extracurricular activities for drinking at school. As a parent, my kid would not play again this season. Doesn't matter what the school imposed.....I know you say it is punishing the team but my job as a parent is to raise my kid....furthermore, instead of punishing the team, it sends the message that playing is a privilege and self-discipline is necessary to play. That can actually help a team. It gives some other players the chance to step up. Mistakes happen but there are consequences and the players knew that before they made the poor choice. They weren't thinking about the team by their actions. Hopefully they learn from it and move on since they still have another year left after this one.[/quote]Climbing up on the roof of the Dog Dome..someone could have been seriously killed!
SmashMouth Posted September 25, 2011 Report Posted September 25, 2011 [quote name="dawgnut" post="1065470" timestamp="1316909876"][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1065368#msg1065368 date=1316904978][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=88772.msg1065362#msg1065362 date=1316904703]Kids will do dumb stuff, just wonder were the adults were when this was all taking place?[/quote]Oh please...[/quote]Please What?[/quote]Please quit asking stupid questions...His parents where probably doing the same things OUR parents were when WE did stupid things. Watching TV at home or whatever normal unsuspecting Moms and Dads do. My parents were awesome! But, there is no way they could keep up with me or my whereabouts 24/7.
football04 Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name="SmashMouth" post="1066197" timestamp="1316994276"][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=88772.msg1065470#msg1065470 date=1316909876][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1065368#msg1065368 date=1316904978][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=88772.msg1065362#msg1065362 date=1316904703]Kids will do dumb stuff, just wonder were the adults were when this was all taking place?[/quote]Oh please...[/quote]Please What?[/quote]Please quit asking stupid questions...His parents where probably doing the same things OUR parents were when WE did stupid things. Watching TV at home or whatever normal unsuspecting Moms and Dads do. My parents were awesome! But, there is no way they could keep up with me or my whereabouts 24/7.[/quote] Exactly
PN-G bamatex Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name="SmashMouth" post="1066197" timestamp="1316994276"][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=88772.msg1065470#msg1065470 date=1316909876][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1065368#msg1065368 date=1316904978][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=88772.msg1065362#msg1065362 date=1316904703]Kids will do dumb stuff, just wonder were the adults were when this was all taking place?[/quote]Oh please...[/quote]Please What?[/quote]Please quit asking stupid questions...His parents where probably doing the same things OUR parents were when WE did stupid things. Watching TV at home or whatever normal unsuspecting Moms and Dads do. My parents were awesome! But, there is no way they could keep up with me or my whereabouts 24/7.[/quote]Which is why we have cell phones with GPS chips. ;D
SmashMouth Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name="PN-G bamakid" post="1066266" timestamp="1316998174"][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1066197#msg1066197 date=1316994276][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=88772.msg1065470#msg1065470 date=1316909876][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1065368#msg1065368 date=1316904978][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=88772.msg1065362#msg1065362 date=1316904703]Kids will do dumb stuff, just wonder were the adults were when this was all taking place?[/quote]Oh please...[/quote]Please What?[/quote]Please quit asking stupid questions...His parents where probably doing the same things OUR parents were when WE did stupid things. Watching TV at home or whatever normal unsuspecting Moms and Dads do. My parents were awesome! But, there is no way they could keep up with me or my whereabouts 24/7.[/quote]Which is why we have cell phones with GPS chips. ;D[/quote]LOL...Which is why (if I was a modern day teen) I would accidentally turn my phone off and leave at the place I was "supposed" to be...
PN-G bamatex Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name="SmashMouth" post="1066267" timestamp="1316998369"][quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=88772.msg1066266#msg1066266 date=1316998174][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1066197#msg1066197 date=1316994276][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=88772.msg1065470#msg1065470 date=1316909876][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1065368#msg1065368 date=1316904978][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=88772.msg1065362#msg1065362 date=1316904703]Kids will do dumb stuff, just wonder were the adults were when this was all taking place?[/quote]Oh please...[/quote]Please What?[/quote]Please quit asking stupid questions...His parents where probably doing the same things OUR parents were when WE did stupid things. Watching TV at home or whatever normal unsuspecting Moms and Dads do. My parents were awesome! But, there is no way they could keep up with me or my whereabouts 24/7.[/quote]Which is why we have cell phones with GPS chips. ;D[/quote]LOL...Which is why (if I was a modern day teen) I would accidentally turn my phone off and leave at the place I was "supposed" to be...[/quote]Nah, take the battery out and say the phone was dead.
SmashMouth Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name="PN-G bamakid" post="1066268" timestamp="1316998438"][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1066267#msg1066267 date=1316998369][quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=88772.msg1066266#msg1066266 date=1316998174][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1066197#msg1066197 date=1316994276][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=88772.msg1065470#msg1065470 date=1316909876][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1065368#msg1065368 date=1316904978][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=88772.msg1065362#msg1065362 date=1316904703]Kids will do dumb stuff, just wonder were the adults were when this was all taking place?[/quote]Oh please...[/quote]Please What?[/quote]Please quit asking stupid questions...His parents where probably doing the same things OUR parents were when WE did stupid things. Watching TV at home or whatever normal unsuspecting Moms and Dads do. My parents were awesome! But, there is no way they could keep up with me or my whereabouts 24/7.[/quote]Which is why we have cell phones with GPS chips. ;D[/quote]LOL...Which is why (if I was a modern day teen) I would accidentally turn my phone off and leave at the place I was "supposed" to be...[/quote]Nah, take the battery out and say the phone was dead.[/quote]Exactly!
Bigdog Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 The kids now know more about technology than we did coming up, and I was in the first generation to be "raised" in the technology. My daughter can pick up just about any game (or Iphone) and figure out in a few minutes. She's not even 4 yet! ::)
dawgnut Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name="SmashMouth" post="1066197" timestamp="1316994276"][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=88772.msg1065470#msg1065470 date=1316909876][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1065368#msg1065368 date=1316904978][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=88772.msg1065362#msg1065362 date=1316904703]Kids will do dumb stuff, just wonder were the adults were when this was all taking place?[/quote]Oh please...[/quote]Please What?[/quote]Please quit asking stupid questions...His parents where probably doing the same things OUR parents were when WE did stupid things. Watching TV at home or whatever normal unsuspecting Moms and Dads do. My parents were awesome! But, there is no way they could keep up with me or my whereabouts 24/7.[/quote]I'm not talking about parents! And it's not a stupid question!
akifan94 Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 Fact is that this became a public matter as soon as they chose to inform the public by posting it on the web. The punishment is justified.
SmashMouth Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name="dawgnut" post="1066287" timestamp="1316999413"][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1066197#msg1066197 date=1316994276][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=88772.msg1065470#msg1065470 date=1316909876][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1065368#msg1065368 date=1316904978][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=88772.msg1065362#msg1065362 date=1316904703]Kids will do dumb stuff, just wonder were the adults were when this was all taking place?[/quote]Oh please...[/quote]Please What?[/quote]Please quit asking stupid questions...His parents where probably doing the same things OUR parents were when WE did stupid things. Watching TV at home or whatever normal unsuspecting Moms and Dads do. My parents were awesome! But, there is no way they could keep up with me or my whereabouts 24/7.[/quote]I'm not talking about parents! And it's not a stupid question![/quote]Which adults were you referring to? Generally, the adults assigned to specific kids are called parents...so what's not stupid about your question or (now) your follow up comment.
dawgnut Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name="SmashMouth" post="1066321" timestamp="1317001824"][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=88772.msg1066287#msg1066287 date=1316999413][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1066197#msg1066197 date=1316994276][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=88772.msg1065470#msg1065470 date=1316909876][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1065368#msg1065368 date=1316904978][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=88772.msg1065362#msg1065362 date=1316904703]Kids will do dumb stuff, just wonder were the adults were when this was all taking place?[/quote]Oh please...[/quote]Please What?[/quote]Please quit asking stupid questions...His parents where probably doing the same things OUR parents were when WE did stupid things. Watching TV at home or whatever normal unsuspecting Moms and Dads do. My parents were awesome! But, there is no way they could keep up with me or my whereabouts 24/7.[/quote]I'm not talking about parents! And it's not a stupid question![/quote]Which adults were you referring to? Generally, the adults assigned to specific kids are called parents...so what's not stupid about your question or (now) your follow up comment.[/quote]If your children attend functions such as church events, club events, school events or any such thing they are generally under other adults than their parents, true?
Bulldog8 Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name="SFA85" post="1064991" timestamp="1316878812"][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1064988#msg1064988 date=1316878662][quote author=SFA85 link=topic=88772.msg1064979#msg1064979 date=1316878173][quote author=Cool Hand Luke link=topic=88772.msg1064969#msg1064969 date=1316877843][quote author=SFA85 link=topic=88772.msg1064866#msg1064866 date=1316870185]Had it been any kid from BISD, it would be on all 3 local channels and all news papers and CBT would be blamed....[/quote] Because Beaumont never seems to truly deal with the problem. They let the kid who got caught smoking weed in Orange play basketball. Winning was more important that teaching a kid a lesson. He ended up doing the same thing at college and lost the scholarship. BISD has some responsiblity for not holding the kid accountable when they could have. At least NISD is suspending them from extracurricular activities for 6 weeks. Must not have been a coach who caught them though!!!lol[/quote]And Ned delt with their last 'problem' by letting those 3 kids swappin' head meds back on the team. Yeah, they didn't play but they were on the team. Now the kid that got arrested in class is another talk show but Ned is far from perfect when it comes to dealing with it's 'problems'. A lot of those 'problems' get lucky and get hired on to place like where I work and we all have to deal with them[/quote]Respectfully, why don't y'all shut the heck up and quit complaining about something that has nothing to do about anything. BISD kids, NISD kids, SISD, LISD ...they're no different. Leave it alone unless you plan on proposing a solution instead of bi&%$ing the whole thread.[/quote]Sorry. But I stated a biased position based on past history. The solution has been implimented but we'll see if Nuemann will stick to it this time...[/quote]I am not going to to get into details on a forum what happen, but most, if not all the folks commenting on this post dont know the details. What I will say, it is not as bad as some of you may think. All the students involved were given same punishment by the school administation. Some of them dont play football or fall sports so they are not impacted from participating in UIL activities. Once they pay for what they did, they should be reinstated just like "no pass no play"... they will pay for their actions, move on. By the way both starters are Juniors. Also, someone mentioned that Nederland players in years past were dealing or doing drugs, whatever... the ones involved in this issue was not. What started out to be harmless turned into a stupid decision.
adminbaberuth Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 How many of us drank a beer in high school and didn't get caught?
adminbaberuth Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name="adminbaberuth" post="1066365" timestamp="1317004836"]How many of us drank a beer in high school and didn't get caught?[/quote]I got caught the last week of school. My assistant principal the late Lenny Dauphine suspended me the last day of my senior year for buying a beer at the Astrodome on a student government trip. Stros lost .
LumRaiderFan Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name="adminbaberuth" post="1066368" timestamp="1317005146"][quote author=adminbaberuth link=topic=88772.msg1066365#msg1066365 date=1317004836]How many of us drank a beer in high school and didn't get caught?[/quote]I got caught the last week of school. My [b]assistant principal [/b] the late Lenny Dauphine suspended me the last day of my senior year for buying a beer at the Astrodome on a student government trip. Stros lost .[/quote]Assistant principles...AKA "enforcers" in the day.Admin, did you even get to drink the beer? :D
adminbaberuth Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name="LumRaiderFan" post="1066373" timestamp="1317005411"][quote author=adminbaberuth link=topic=88772.msg1066368#msg1066368 date=1317005146][quote author=adminbaberuth link=topic=88772.msg1066365#msg1066365 date=1317004836]How many of us drank a beer in high school and didn't get caught?[/quote]I got caught the last week of school. My [b]assistant principal [/b] the late Lenny Dauphine suspended me the last day of my senior year for buying a beer at the Astrodome on a student government trip. Stros lost .[/quote]Assistant principles...AKA "enforcers" in the day.Admin, did you even get to drink the beer? :D [/quote]O yea and I wasn't alone. You could buy it at 18 in those days, I was 17 and I think that is why he suspended me.
LumRaiderFan Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name="adminbaberuth" post="1066376" timestamp="1317005669"][quote author=LumRaiderFan link=topic=88772.msg1066373#msg1066373 date=1317005411][quote author=adminbaberuth link=topic=88772.msg1066368#msg1066368 date=1317005146][quote author=adminbaberuth link=topic=88772.msg1066365#msg1066365 date=1317004836]How many of us drank a beer in high school and didn't get caught?[/quote]I got caught the last week of school. My [b]assistant principal [/b] the late Lenny Dauphine suspended me the last day of my senior year for buying a beer at the Astrodome on a student government trip. Stros lost .[/quote]Assistant principles...AKA "enforcers" in the day.Admin, did you even get to drink the beer? :D [/quote]O yea and I wasn't alone. You could buy it at 18 in those days, I was 17 and I think that is why he suspended me.[/quote]A "character building" moment...you probably didn't think so at the time!
adminbaberuth Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name="LumRaiderFan" post="1066378" timestamp="1317005911"][quote author=adminbaberuth link=topic=88772.msg1066376#msg1066376 date=1317005669][quote author=LumRaiderFan link=topic=88772.msg1066373#msg1066373 date=1317005411][quote author=adminbaberuth link=topic=88772.msg1066368#msg1066368 date=1317005146][quote author=adminbaberuth link=topic=88772.msg1066365#msg1066365 date=1317004836]How many of us drank a beer in high school and didn't get caught?[/quote]I got caught the last week of school. My [b]assistant principal [/b] the late Lenny Dauphine suspended me the last day of my senior year for buying a beer at the Astrodome on a student government trip. Stros lost .[/quote]Assistant principles...AKA "enforcers" in the day.Admin, did you even get to drink the beer? :D [/quote]O yea and I wasn't alone. You could buy it at 18 in those days, I was 17 and I think that is why he suspended me.[/quote]A "character building" moment...you probably didn't think so at the time![/quote]Very much. We caught up 20 years later at a reunion. Of course he brought the suspension up after a long handshake, it was good.
LumRaiderFan Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name="adminbaberuth" post="1066381" timestamp="1317006127"][quote author=LumRaiderFan link=topic=88772.msg1066378#msg1066378 date=1317005911][quote author=adminbaberuth link=topic=88772.msg1066376#msg1066376 date=1317005669][quote author=LumRaiderFan link=topic=88772.msg1066373#msg1066373 date=1317005411][quote author=adminbaberuth link=topic=88772.msg1066368#msg1066368 date=1317005146][quote author=adminbaberuth link=topic=88772.msg1066365#msg1066365 date=1317004836]How many of us drank a beer in high school and didn't get caught?[/quote]I got caught the last week of school. My [b]assistant principal [/b] the late Lenny Dauphine suspended me the last day of my senior year for buying a beer at the Astrodome on a student government trip. Stros lost .[/quote]Assistant principles...AKA "enforcers" in the day.Admin, did you even get to drink the beer? :D [/quote]O yea and I wasn't alone. You could buy it at 18 in those days, I was 17 and I think that is why he suspended me.[/quote]A "character building" moment...you probably didn't think so at the time![/quote]Very much. We caught up 20 years later at a reunion. Of course he brought the suspension up after a long handshake, it was good.[/quote] 8)
HillGuy Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 The only difference between "then" and now is we didnt have twitter, facebook or youtube to post our stupid behavior on (thank goodness)...all we had back then was spraypainting our idiocy on the water tower.
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