walldrill Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 Your thoughts?I know this Texas boy is pulling for Nolan and his Rangers. 8)[hr][hr]
JWB Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 Rangers are too strong,up and down the line up...Rangers take series!
Ty Cobb Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 This is not what I wanted to happen. I was really hoping for the yankees. The yankees are not near as good as the tigers. I will be pulling for the RANGERS and I see this series going 6 or 7 games.
Guest ECBucFan Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 [quote name="Ty Cobb" post="1075426" timestamp="1317992628"]The yankees are not near as good as the tigers. [/quote]I agree. This is going to be difficult for the TX-R's. Tigers won 6 of 9 during the season vs. TX.
Ty Cobb Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 [b]CATCHER[/b]TigersAlex Avila: .295, 19 HR, 82 RBIsOmir Santos: .227, 0 HR, 0 RBIsAvila had a breakout All-Star season after batting just .228 as a rookie last year, earning his spot in the middle portion of a potent lineup. Santos figures to be used on defense if Avila has to leave for a late-game pinch-runner. Victor Martinez is still listed as a catcher, but hasn't been behind the plate since Aug. 4.RangersMike Napoli: .320, 30 HR, 75 RBIsYorvit Torrealba: .273, 7 HR, 37 RBIsNapoli has made balls disappear over walls all season and has become such a vital weapon he finally made even Torrealba disappear in the Division Series, becoming a mainstay behind the plate against any-side pitching. Including the ALDS, the Rangers are 36-10 when Napoli drives in a run.EDGE: Rangers[b]FIRST BASE[/b]TigersMiguel Cabrera: .344, 30 HR, 105 RBIsDon Kelly: .245, 7 HR, 28 RBIsCabrera overcame well-publicized preseason personal distractions to slug his way to an AL batting title while putting up typical power numbers (fifth straight 30-100 season). He recognized that having Martinez behind him would lead pitchers to try working around him and has been patient enough to draw 108 walks, for a .448 on-base percentage, also tops in the Majors.RangersMitch Moreland: .259, 16 HR, 51 RBIsMoreland is off to a quiet postseason start (1-for-10, the hit being a home run) after starring last October with a .348 average. Will be a big weapon for Texas against Detroit's all-righty rotation. Fifteen of Moreland's homers came off right-handers.EDGE: Tigers[b]SECOND BASE[/b]TigersRamon Santiago: .260, 5 HR, 30 RBIsRyan Raburn: .256, 14 HR, 49 RBIsIt's been a revolving door for the Tigers at second base this season. Santiago was the fifth player given a regular shot at the position, and his solid glove and strong arm have been a big asset. It's not his specialty, but he even came up with a couple of clutch hits in the ALDS.RangersIan Kinsler: .255, 32 HR, 77 RBIsWith his second 30-30 season in the books, Kinsler's game includes the element of speed. The 29-year-old is again hitting for power -- after hitting nine homers in an injury-riddled 2010 season. Kinsler is always a threat to grab early momentum for Texas with a leadoff homer.EDGE: Rangers[b]THIRD BASE[/b]TigersWilson Betemit: .292, 5 HR, 19 RBIsBrandon Inge: .197, 3 HR, 23 RBIsDon Kelly: .245, 7 HR, 28 RBIsThird base has been another inconsistent position for the Tigers this season. In July, the club even sent Detroit favorite Inge to Triple-A and traded for Betemit to replace him. Betemit may have lost manager Jim Leyland's confidence with some terrible at-bats in Game 4 of the ALDS; Kelly got the start in the decisive Game 5.RangersAdrian Beltre: .296, 32 HR, 105 RBIsBeltre came into the postseason on fire -- 12 homers in his last 16 games -- and turned up the heat on the Rays, finishing them off with his three homers in Game 4 of the ALDS. And he fields his position like a .180 hitter who has to earn his keep with the glove.EDGE: Rangers[b]SHORTSTOP[/b]TigersJhonny Peralta: .299, 21 HR, 86 RBIsRamon Santiago: .260, 5 HR, 30 RBIsIn the ALDS, Peralta gave no hint of what had been a career year for him. He led all AL shortstops in OPS, hit a career-high .299 and popped 21 homers. He had a quiet (4-for-18, one RBI) series against the Yankees. His ALCS experience is good: He homered twice and drive in eight runs for the Indians in 2007 against Boston.RangersElvis Andrus: .279, 5 HR, 60 RBIsAndrus really shined in the playoffs last season, particularly in the first two rounds, so there is no need to conclude from his ALDS (2-for-14) that the youngster can't handle postseason heat. Even if he continues to slump, his glove will keep him as a difference-maker. The Rangers will need his disruptive speed on the bases.EDGE: Rangers[b]OUTFIELD[/b]TigersDelmon Young: .274, 8 HR, 32 RBIsAustin Jackson: .249, 10 HR, 45 RBIsMagglio Ordonez: .255, 5 HR, 32 RBIsRyan Raburn: .256, 14 HR, 49 RBIsAndy Dirks: .251, 7 HR, 28 RBIsThe Tigers made a savvy waiver-wire pickup in adding Young in August. He continued to be a big contributor in the ALDS, but the Tigers will have to hold their breaths over whether an oblique strain will prevent him from playing. Jackson endured the dreaded sophomore slump but has the potential to influence any game with his speed in the field and on the bases. Ordonez is trying to turn back the clock and got off to a good start (5-for-11) in the ALDS.RangersJosh Hamilton: .298, 25 HR, 94 RBIsEndy Chavez: .301, 5 HR, 27 RBIsNelson Cruz: .263, 29 HR, 87 RBIsDavid Murphy: .275, 11 HR, 46 RBIsTexas survived the ALDS with no long balls and only two RBIs -- both by Hamilton -- from this outfield, but they won't be as dispensable this time around. Cruz is still searching for his swing since missing the first half of September with a strained left hamstring; upon returning, he hit one homer his last 49 at-bats, then went 1-for-15 in the ALDS.EDGE: Rangers[b]DESIGNATED HITTER[/b]TigersVictor Martinez: .330, 12 HR, 103 RBIsMartinez used to platoon between first and catcher and now platoons between only the left- and right-side batter's boxes, but he is the rarity who had no trouble transitioning to full-time DH duty. The lineup protection he's afforded Cabrera has been a tremendous asset, making the middle of the Tigers' lineup as fearsome as any.RangersMichael Young: .338, 11 HR, 106 RBIsYoung's role changed dramatically with Beltre's arrival, but not so his production. Unlike Martinez, he remains likely to pop up anywhere on the field -- first, third, second. But hitting has always been his best position.EDGE: Tigers[b]STARTING PITCHERS[/b]TigersJustin Verlander: 24-5, 2.40 ERA, 250 KsDoug Fister: 11-13, 2.83 ERA, 146 Ks (8-1, 1.79 ERA, 57 Ks with Detroit) Max Scherzer: 15-9, 4.43 ERA, 174 KsRick Porcello: 14-9, 4.75 ERA, 104 KsAs Fister again showed in the decisive Game 5 of the ALDS, this is no longer a one-man show starring Verlander. Verlander still has the lead, but Fister and Scherzer make up quite a supporting cast. Prior to Fister's July 31 acquisition from Seattle, the Tigers' No. 5 starters had a cumulative record of 4-17. Scherzer may be more volatile but is awfully tough with his best stuff.RangersC.J. Wilson: 16-7, 2.94 ERA, 206 KsDerek Holland: 16-5, 3.95 ERA, 162 KsColby Lewis: 14-10, 4.40 ERA, 169 KsMatt Harrison: 14-9, 3.39 ERA, 126C.L. is still around to pitch the Rangers deep into the postseason. Not Cliff Lee, but Colby Lewis has been just as good in October (4-0, 1.67). Better rotation depth, but all but Wilson got beat up pretty well by the Tigers in regular-season play, the three others combining for an ERA of 10.38.EDGE: Tigers[b]MIDDLE RELIEVERS[/b]TigersJoaquin Benoit: 4-3, 2.95 ERA, 66 GPhil Coke: 3-9, 4.47 ERA, 48 GAl Alburquerque: 6-1, 1.87 ERA, 41 GDaniel Schlereth: 2-2, 3.49 ERA, 49 GRyan Perry: 2-0, 5.35 ERA, 36 GBrad Penny: 11-11, 5.30, 31 startsThe Tigers' controversial addition of Benoit, signing the free agent to a rich three-year deal, paid big-time dividends in the ALDS. It took Benoit a while, but he settled in to become an eighth-inning force. Alburquerque became a question mark when he suffered a concussion in August and the erstwhile seventh-inning weapon is an even bigger unknown off his ALDS woes (three runs, while getting only one out in two appearances).RangersAlexi Ogando: 13-8, 3.51 ERA, 31 G (29 starts)Darren Oliver: 5-5, 2.29 ERA, 61 GMike Adams: 5-4, 1.47 ERA, 75 G (2-3, 2.10 ERA, 27 G with Texas)Koji Uehara: 2-3, 2.35 ERA, 65 G (1-2, 4.00 ERA, 22 G with Texas)Mike Gonzalez: 2-2, 4.39 ERA, 56 (0-0, 5.14 ERA, 7 G with Texas)This area was general manager Jon Daniels' biggest in-season project, and he aced it by adding Adams, Uehara and Gonzalez. Both teams have displaced starters in the bullpen, but while the Tigers have Penny, Texas had Ogando, who in the ALDS got back in relief mode as if getting back on a bicycle.EDGE: Rangers[b]CLOSER[/b]TigersJose Valverde: 2-4, 2.24 ERA, 49 savesBroadway Jose Valverde backed up his post-Game 2 boast that the ALDS was over, and has extended his regular-season perfection in 49 save opportunities through two more. His exaggerated celebratory displays are either a source of entertainment or a cause of scorn, depending on perspective.RangersNeftali Feliz: 2-3, 2.74, 32 savesIn midseason, team president and CEO Nolan Ryan bemoaned the fact Feliz did not appear to be pitching with any sense of urgency, occasionally letting trouble get out of hand. You want urgency, you want the postseason: He saved each of Texas' ALDS wins, building on a strong regular-season finish.EDGE: Tigers[b]BENCH[/b]TigersBrandon Inge: .197, 3 HR, 23 RBIsDon Kelly: .245, 7 HR, 28 RBIsRyan Raburn: .256, 14 HR, 49 RBIsAndy Dirks: .251, 7 HR, 28 RBIsOn some days, this isn't even a bench but part of the Tigers'; starting lineup. Leyland used five different combinations in the five ALDS games, a testament to the versatility available when these guys don't start. Losing Brennan Boesch for the season and having Carlos Guillen unavailable with a calf injury undoubtedly does hurt the Tigers' depth.RangersEsteban German: .455, 1 HR, 4 RBIsMatt Treanor: .214, 3 HR, 22 RBIsCraig Gentry: .271, 1 HR, 13 RBIsEndy Chavez: .301, 5 HR, 27 RBIsYorvit Torrealba: .273, 7 HR, 37 RBIsThe Rangers have rocks at most of their positions but make full use of the flexible ones: Moreland, Napoli and even Young can pop up at first base, and when they want an extra bat against lefty pitchers, Torrealba squats behind the plate. When he's not starting, Gentry is a safe bet to enter late if Texas has a lead.EDGE: Rangers[b]COACHES[/b]TigersManager: Jim LeylandHitting coach: Lloyd McClendonPitching coach: Jeff JonesThird-base coach: Gene LamontFirst-base coach: Tom BrookensLeyland's successful lineup juggling against the Yankees once again validated his reputation as one of the game's most savvy skippers. The Tigers' eventual AL Central runaway earned him an extension through 2012. He has three Manager of the Year Awards, is in the postseason for the seventh time, but still has only one ring -- earned with the 1997 Marlins.RangersManager: Ron WashingtonBench coach: Jackie MooreHitting coach: Scott CoolbaughPitching coach: Mike MadduxThird-base coach: Dave AndersonFirst-base coach: Gary PettisWashington is the kind of manager players like having with them in the trenches. He is a master motivator, expressing his beliefs with a confidence that becomes contagious. Knowledge of his players' tools and ticks enables him to consistently place them in situations that give them a good chance to succeed.EDGE: Tigers[b]FANS[/b]Tigers: Loyal and hungry fan base that's been waiting 27 years for a title.Rangers: Enthusiastic, have reacted passionately to team's success.Don't count out what the Tigers bring to the table, though. Even in hard economic times, Tigers fans have been fiercely loyal, and the quest to end the long title drought brings an energy all its own.That other outfit may still bill itself as "America's Team," but when October rolls around the Rangers now are "Dallas-Fort Worth's Team." No area loves a winner like this one, reflected in its rank in some surveys as the nation's best sports town. However, Rangers crowds can't intimidate like those in Motown.EDGE: Tigers
Guest ECBucFan Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 Good analysis, where did it all come from? Who do they project?
bmrm Posted October 9, 2011 Report Posted October 9, 2011 What happened? The game was put in a rain delay for a supposed couple of hours & I happen to flip back and the Tigers cut their deficit to one and have the bases loaded with another rain delay in place. When did they decide to resume play originally?
Guest (13) Posted October 9, 2011 Report Posted October 9, 2011 rain delay over, bottom of 6th. 11:11 p.m.
Ty Cobb Posted October 9, 2011 Report Posted October 9, 2011 I fell asleep before the game resumed the second time. Sounds like the bullpen came in and shut down the tigers.
westend1 Posted October 9, 2011 Report Posted October 9, 2011 Beating Verlander is big! The rest of the Detroit staff is beatable.
bullets13 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Posted October 10, 2011 CJ looked great until the rain delay. gave up a couple of runs in the 5 minutes between the two delays. the bullpen for the rangers was amazing. 8 strikeouts, 0 walks, and 1 bunt single given up in 4 2/3 innings. fantastic win for the rangers to get off of verlander. they should have the advantage in every other starting pitching matchup, so to get that one was huge.
PhatMack19 Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 Cruz with a walkoff grand slam in the 11th!!!
bullets13 Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 Rangers bullpen goes 8.1 innings, 4 hits, 2 walks, 8 Ks, no ER. that gives them 13 innings in the series, 16 Ks, 2 walks, 5 hits, 0 ER so far. the bullpen and nelson cruz are carrying this team on their back so far!
Ty Cobb Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 The 11th inning really showed what this TEXAS RANGERS team is all about. They never quit fighting and anyone in their line-up, which I consider the best in mlb, can hurt you at anytime. The 11th started with Michael Young getting behind in the count and finding a way to get a base hit. That was followed up with a hit from Beltre, and then the tiger outfield made an error on a ball hit by Napoli. The official ruling was a base hit but that's an error in my book. Then comes the 7 hole hitter, Nelson Cruz and the rest if history. Is there a more dangerous 7 hole hitter in baseball? I would love to see the RANGERS go to detroit and win 2.
PhatMack19 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 The Rangers made a mistake there pitching to Cabrera instead of the injured Martinez on deck.2-1 Tigers after 5
PhatMack19 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Valverde in with a 5-2 lead in the 9th
adminbaberuth Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Hamilton doubles, no one out. O well, Young wiffs.
PhatMack19 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Tigers win Game 3, 5-2.Rangers still lead series 2-1
Ty Cobb Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name="PhatMack19" post="1080308" timestamp="1318383578"]The Rangers made a mistake there pitching to Cabrera instead of the injured Martinez on deck.2-1 Tigers after 5[/quote]I disagree. The mistake was made by Colby Lewis. Lewis had an 0-2 count on cabrera and threw a pitch that caught too much of the plate, allowing cabrera to get his bat on the ball and punch it into right field. In that scenario, throw a breaking ball down and away or a fast ball off the plate to get the hitter to chase a bad pitch.
PhatMack19 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 I would pitch to an injured DH that could barely trot around the bases before a perennial all star every day of the week, but that's just me. Sure Lewis made a mistake, but good hitters get paid to hit mistakes.
Ty Cobb Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 You are right about that. Good hitters get paid to hit mistakes. This series has two of the best hitters in the game. Cabrera and Michael Young. I just wish it was cabrera, instead of Michael, that was struggling at the plate right now.
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