TradinUp BH Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 UIL Championships are the only one's that count. That other mess is peewee football with only a hand full of teams ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 [quote name="Scalp'em" post="1078906" timestamp="1318258793"]UIL Championships are the only one's that count. That other mess is peewee football with only a hand full of teams ;D[/quote]ah..g-pn fan...........48 yrs old and still wearing his letter jacket ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest twag11 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 [quote name="Scalp'em" post="1078906" timestamp="1318258793"]UIL Championships are the only one's that count. That other mess is peewee football with only a hand full of teams ;D[/quote]lol someone has jokes im pretty sure kelly's 07 team could have hung with any team in the area with maybe the exception of the 5-a's. and the WOS team of that year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDBobcats9 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 If you count when the small schools could only go to a regional championship back in the day, then Hull-Daisetta has 4 titles. They only let small schools play (I think) 4 playoff games. HD went undefeated in 1936, 1937, and 1938 winning as far as they could go. They also lost the 1961 state championship game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADSANTA Posted October 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 It only counts if it's under UIL! Kellys state championships don't count if you have a 4 team playoff. That Kelly team with Dexter Hebert was good! I didn't watch their other teams. I did see Silsbee beat them a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradinUp BH Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 [quote name="puddin tane" post="1078946" timestamp="1318260822"][quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=89577.msg1078906#msg1078906 date=1318258793]UIL Championships are the only one's that count. That other mess is peewee football with only a hand full of teams ;D[/quote]ah..g-pn fan...........48 yrs old and still wearing his letter jacket ...[/quote]hahaha, I graduated from WB in the early 90's! I'm not that old yet. BTW, we would've stomped a mudhole in Kelly! That was to the guy talking about the Dexter Hebert years. Kelly was good a couple of years for a private school and playing the format they did, but them playing a 5a team like WB in 92 or 93 is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest twag11 Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 [quote name="Scalp'em" post="1079543" timestamp="1318295280"][quote author=puddin tane link=topic=89577.msg1078946#msg1078946 date=1318260822][quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=89577.msg1078906#msg1078906 date=1318258793]UIL Championships are the only one's that count. That other mess is peewee football with only a hand full of teams ;D[/quote]ah..g-pn fan...........48 yrs old and still wearing his letter jacket ...[/quote]hahaha, I graduated from WB in the early 90's! I'm not that old yet. BTW, we would've stomped a mudhole in Kelly! That was to the guy talking about the Dexter Hebert years. Kelly was good a couple of years for a private school and playing the format they did, but them playing a 5a team like WB in 92 or 93 is a joke.[/quote]well in PNG's state final i believe 1999 team they only beat kelly 14-10 so watch what you say bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradinUp BH Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 [quote name="2% Milk" post="1079591" timestamp="1318298300"][quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=89577.msg1079543#msg1079543 date=1318295280][quote author=puddin tane link=topic=89577.msg1078946#msg1078946 date=1318260822][quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=89577.msg1078906#msg1078906 date=1318258793]UIL Championships are the only one's that count. That other mess is peewee football with only a hand full of teams ;D[/quote]ah..g-pn fan...........48 yrs old and still wearing his letter jacket ...[/quote]hahaha, I graduated from WB in the early 90's! I'm not that old yet. BTW, we would've stomped a mudhole in Kelly! That was to the guy talking about the Dexter Hebert years. Kelly was good a couple of years for a private school and playing the format they did, but them playing a 5a team like WB in 92 or 93 is a joke.[/quote]well in PNG's state final i believe 1999 team they only beat kelly 14-10 so watch what you say bud.[/quote]Watch what I say? Yea ok, don't get made just because someone challenged the mythical TAPPS or whatever titles involving 4 playoff teams. I've said that Kelly has had some good teams, but to try and say they are one of the best historical programs in the area is a joke. Sorry, but it's my opinion. Your entitled to yours as well. :D ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest twag11 Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 [quote name="Scalp'em" post="1079652" timestamp="1318304129"][quote author=2% Milk link=topic=89577.msg1079591#msg1079591 date=1318298300][quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=89577.msg1079543#msg1079543 date=1318295280][quote author=puddin tane link=topic=89577.msg1078946#msg1078946 date=1318260822][quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=89577.msg1078906#msg1078906 date=1318258793]UIL Championships are the only one's that count. That other mess is peewee football with only a hand full of teams ;D[/quote]ah..g-pn fan...........48 yrs old and still wearing his letter jacket ...[/quote]hahaha, I graduated from WB in the early 90's! I'm not that old yet. BTW, we would've stomped a mudhole in Kelly! That was to the guy talking about the Dexter Hebert years. Kelly was good a couple of years for a private school and playing the format they did, but them playing a 5a team like WB in 92 or 93 is a joke.[/quote]well in PNG's state final i believe 1999 team they only beat kelly 14-10 so watch what you say bud.[/quote]Watch what I say? Yea ok, don't get made just because someone challenged the mythical TAPPS or whatever titles involving 4 playoff teams. I've said that Kelly has had some good teams, but to try and say they are one of the best historical programs in the area is a joke. Sorry, but it's my opinion. Your entitled to yours as well. :D ;)[/quote] lol never said we were one of the best historical programs? where did i ever say that. i just said that the 2007 team of Kelly's could have hung with any team in the area except for the 5-a's and that years WOS. i also just simply pointed out kelly has the most state championships i dont care if its TAPPS it's still a state championship and they beat some good teams to get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Purple Nation Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 UIL or GTFO ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSgrad Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Well, those on this list who won titles in organizations outside of the UIL did so at a time (or continue to do so) as they were denied entry into the UIL. So until such time as the UIL opens its doors to all schools (which because of issues discussed ad nauseum in other threads I hope they don't do soon), I'll recognize area schools that win championships in those other orgnanizations as state champions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name="2% Milk" post="1079318" timestamp="1318278193"][quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=89577.msg1078906#msg1078906 date=1318258793]UIL Championships are the only one's that count. That other mess is peewee football with only a hand full of teams ;D[/quote]lol someone has jokes im pretty sure kelly's 07 team could have hung with any team in the area with maybe the exception of the 5-a's. and the WOS team of that year[/quote]Did someone spike your 2% milk with some whiskey??? Dream on buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name="Purple Nation" post="1080279" timestamp="1318380942"]UIL or GTFO ;D[/quote]Yep...what you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name="2% Milk" post="1079318" timestamp="1318278193"][quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=89577.msg1078906#msg1078906 date=1318258793]UIL Championships are the only one's that count. That other mess is peewee football with only a hand full of teams ;D[/quote]lol someone has jokes im pretty sure kelly's 07 team could have hung with any team in the area with maybe the exception of the 5-a's. and the WOS team of that year[/quote]And if we're talking about State Champs...I doubt they could have hung with any of the State finalist teams in 2007. No disrespec to to Kelly, but they are not even close to being in the same league as our local 4-A front runners...never have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest twag11 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name="SmashMouth" post="1080443" timestamp="1318396659"][quote author=2% Milk link=topic=89577.msg1079318#msg1079318 date=1318278193][quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=89577.msg1078906#msg1078906 date=1318258793]UIL Championships are the only one's that count. That other mess is peewee football with only a hand full of teams ;D[/quote]lol someone has jokes im pretty sure kelly's 07 team could have hung with any team in the area with maybe the exception of the 5-a's. and the WOS team of that year[/quote]And if we're talking about State Champs...I doubt they could have hung with any of the State finalist teams in 2007. No disrespec to to Kelly, but they are not even close to being in the same league as our local 4-A front runners...never have.[/quote]ah another guy who probably has never watched Kelly play a game and has no idea of the talent on their 07 team. they beat the number 3 ranked 5a team in louisiana, Sulphur, by about 40. i think that they could have hung with anyone in the area except the 5-a's and i will stand by that opinion your entitled to yours im entitled to mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampionEagles Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Newton's '74 title was in 2A, but the school was actually larger in enrollment than when they won the 3ADII in '98. The 2005 title was the last state title from the South East Texas Area, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADSANTA Posted October 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Kelly would have lost 63-0 to WB, Central, Silsbee, PNG, Nederland, and Newton back 92/93. They had private school talent. Not that good ol public school talent. Public schools have more to chose from always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradinUp BH Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name="2% Milk" post="1080446" timestamp="1318403471"][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=89577.msg1080443#msg1080443 date=1318396659][quote author=2% Milk link=topic=89577.msg1079318#msg1079318 date=1318278193][quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=89577.msg1078906#msg1078906 date=1318258793]UIL Championships are the only one's that count. That other mess is peewee football with only a hand full of teams ;D[/quote]lol someone has jokes im pretty sure kelly's 07 team could have hung with any team in the area with maybe the exception of the 5-a's. and the WOS team of that year[/quote]And if we're talking about State Champs...I doubt they could have hung with any of the State finalist teams in 2007. No disrespec to to Kelly, but they are not even close to being in the same league as our local 4-A front runners...never have.[/quote]ah another guy who probably has never watched Kelly play a game and has no idea of the talent on their 07 team. they beat the number 3 ranked 5a team in louisiana, Sulphur, by about 40. i think that they could have hung with anyone in the area except the 5-a's and i will stand by that opinion your entitled to yours im entitled to mine[/quote]I looked at 2007, which must be the year you played for Kelly since you think they were so great. They were a decent team, but the only quality wins were Hitckcock, Sulphur, and St. Pius. The rest of the teams were weak that year. Now, for the area teams that would've beat Kelly for sure that year was 4A PNG, Dayton, Lumberton, Crosby, Galena Park, and Smiley. That was the 4A playoff teams. Dayton went to the semi-finals that year, Lumberton beat LaMarque and went 3 rounds, and PNG went 2 rounds. 3A teams that would've beat Kelly are WOS, Jasper, and Kirbyville. WOS and Kville went 11-2 and 3 rounds deep. 2A teams Corrigan-Camden, Newton, Hardin, Buna, and EC would've beat Kelly that year. So, in the grand scheme of things, the 2007 Kelly team would've been a middle of the road team in Southeast Texas Again! ;D ;D 8) My opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest twag11 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name="BADSANTA" post="1080740" timestamp="1318444522"]Kelly would have lost 63-0 to WB, Central, Silsbee, PNG, Nederland, and Newton back 92/93. They had private school talent. Not that good ol public school talent. Public schools have more to chose from always.[/quote]well in 93 Kelly beat Bridge City who beat PNG that year so i don't know about that and silsbee barely beat PNG that year so that would be a good game and by looking at scores kelly and big Ned would have been a good game to oh and Kelly beat Orangefield 21-0 while Newton only beat them 21-14 so there's another good game. get your facts straight instead of assuming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradinUp BH Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Dude, the best years of Kelly football was during the years that Dexter Hebert was there. Kelly has always had a decent team, maybe like an average 2A school around here. They haven't and probably never will have a jaugernaut team unless they go recruit kids from the north and south end of Beaumont to make an all-star team. Sorry, but Kelly needs to stick to baseball and even basketball is decent. Leave football to the big boys! ;D ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest twag11 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name="Scalp'em" post="1080802" timestamp="1318447557"]Dude, the best years of Kelly football was during the years that Dexter Hebert was there. Kelly has always had a decent team, maybe like an average 2A school around here. They haven't and probably never will have a jaugernaut team unless they go recruit kids from the north and south end of Beaumont to make an all-star team. Sorry, but Kelly needs to stick to baseball and even basketball is decent. Leave football to the big boys! ;D ;)[/quote]lol your crazy Kelly isn't to hot a baseball and i've seen Kelly beat PNG multiple times in basketball you don't know what your talking about at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest twag11 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name="Scalp'em" post="1080791" timestamp="1318447162"][quote author=2% Milk link=topic=89577.msg1080446#msg1080446 date=1318403471][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=89577.msg1080443#msg1080443 date=1318396659][quote author=2% Milk link=topic=89577.msg1079318#msg1079318 date=1318278193][quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=89577.msg1078906#msg1078906 date=1318258793]UIL Championships are the only one's that count. That other mess is peewee football with only a hand full of teams ;D[/quote]lol someone has jokes im pretty sure kelly's 07 team could have hung with any team in the area with maybe the exception of the 5-a's. and the WOS team of that year[/quote]And if we're talking about State Champs...I doubt they could have hung with any of the State finalist teams in 2007. No disrespec to to Kelly, but they are not even close to being in the same league as our local 4-A front runners...never have.[/quote]ah another guy who probably has never watched Kelly play a game and has no idea of the talent on their 07 team. they beat the number 3 ranked 5a team in louisiana, Sulphur, by about 40. i think that they could have hung with anyone in the area except the 5-a's and i will stand by that opinion your entitled to yours im entitled to mine[/quote]I looked at 2007, which must be the year you played for Kelly since you think they were so great. They were a decent team, but the only quality wins were Hitckcock, Sulphur, and St. Pius. The rest of the teams were weak that year. Now, for the area teams that would've beat Kelly for sure that year was 4A PNG, Dayton, Lumberton, Crosby, Galena Park, and Smiley. That was the 4A playoff teams. Dayton went to the semi-finals that year, Lumberton beat LaMarque and went 3 rounds, and PNG went 2 rounds. 3A teams that would've beat Kelly are WOS, Jasper, and Kirbyville. WOS and Kville went 11-2 and 3 rounds deep. 2A teams Corrigan-Camden, Newton, Hardin, Buna, and EC would've beat Kelly that year. So, in the grand scheme of things, the 2007 Kelly team would've been a middle of the road team in Southeast Texas Again! ;D ;D 8) My opinion of course.[/quote]sulphur was more than a decent team and Kelly made them look like fools. just another typical Kelly hater lol go somewhere else with your biased self. i agree that ALMOST EVERY year Kelly would get killed by those teams you listed but i just don't think so in 07 they had big playmakers. and i said WOS would have beat them smart one how about you read my posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradinUp BH Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name="2% Milk" post="1080804" timestamp="1318447729"][quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=89577.msg1080802#msg1080802 date=1318447557]Dude, the best years of Kelly football was during the years that Dexter Hebert was there. Kelly has always had a decent team, maybe like an average 2A school around here. They haven't and probably never will have a jaugernaut team unless they go recruit kids from the north and south end of Beaumont to make an all-star team. Sorry, but Kelly needs to stick to baseball and even basketball is decent. Leave football to the big boys! ;D ;)[/quote]lol your crazy Kelly isn't to hot a baseball and i've seen Kelly beat PNG multiple times in basketball you don't know what your talking about at all.[/quote]I said Kelly was decent in basketball and baseball. I never said anything about PNG basketball. We did make the playoffs last year finally. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name="2% Milk" post="1080797" timestamp="1318447316"][quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=89577.msg1080740#msg1080740 date=1318444522]Kelly would have lost 63-0 to WB, Central, Silsbee, PNG, Nederland, and Newton back 92/93. They had private school talent. Not that good ol public school talent. Public schools have more to chose from always.[/quote]well in 93 Kelly beat Bridge City who beat PNG that year so i don't know about that and silsbee barely beat PNG that year so that would be a good game and by looking at scores kelly and big Ned would have been a good game to oh and Kelly beat Orangefield 21-0 while Newton only beat them 21-14 so there's another good game. get your facts straight instead of assuming[/quote]Kelly does not beat Silsbee in '92 or '93.Silsbee was a playoff team both those years, with wins over PNG twice in '92 (27-17, 42-17, that last one coming in first round of playoffs, and those were PNG's only two losses that season) and then in '93, Silsbee also defeated WOS 20-14 at WOS (WOS destroyed BC that year). Bridge City went 3-7 and 5-5 in those years. So, those Kelly wins over BC mean nothing in the grand scheme of them beating Silsbee those two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradinUp BH Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name="2% Milk" post="1080807" timestamp="1318447913"][quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=89577.msg1080791#msg1080791 date=1318447162][quote author=2% Milk link=topic=89577.msg1080446#msg1080446 date=1318403471][quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=89577.msg1080443#msg1080443 date=1318396659][quote author=2% Milk link=topic=89577.msg1079318#msg1079318 date=1318278193][quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=89577.msg1078906#msg1078906 date=1318258793]UIL Championships are the only one's that count. That other mess is peewee football with only a hand full of teams ;D[/quote]lol someone has jokes im pretty sure kelly's 07 team could have hung with any team in the area with maybe the exception of the 5-a's. and the WOS team of that year[/quote]And if we're talking about State Champs...I doubt they could have hung with any of the State finalist teams in 2007. No disrespec to to Kelly, but they are not even close to being in the same league as our local 4-A front runners...never have.[/quote]ah another guy who probably has never watched Kelly play a game and has no idea of the talent on their 07 team. they beat the number 3 ranked 5a team in louisiana, Sulphur, by about 40. i think that they could have hung with anyone in the area except the 5-a's and i will stand by that opinion your entitled to yours im entitled to mine[/quote]I looked at 2007, which must be the year you played for Kelly since you think they were so great. They were a decent team, but the only quality wins were Hitckcock, Sulphur, and St. Pius. The rest of the teams were weak that year. Now, for the area teams that would've beat Kelly for sure that year was 4A PNG, Dayton, Lumberton, Crosby, Galena Park, and Smiley. That was the 4A playoff teams. Dayton went to the semi-finals that year, Lumberton beat LaMarque and went 3 rounds, and PNG went 2 rounds. 3A teams that would've beat Kelly are WOS, Jasper, and Kirbyville. WOS and Kville went 11-2 and 3 rounds deep. 2A teams Corrigan-Camden, Newton, Hardin, Buna, and EC would've beat Kelly that year. So, in the grand scheme of things, the 2007 Kelly team would've been a middle of the road team in Southeast Texas Again! ;D ;D 8) My opinion of course.[/quote]sulphur was more than a decent team and Kelly made them look like fools. just another typical Kelly hater lol go somewhere else with your biased self. i agree that ALMOST EVERY year Kelly would get killed by those teams you listed but i just don't think so in 07 they had big playmakers. and i said WOS would have beat them smart one how about you read my posts.[/quote]Sulphur was 8-3 that season and lost thier first playoff game to Westgate of New Iberia. They were hardly the great team you think they were. Not a Kelly hater, I just think it's comical that your buying into the Kelly is the best team bit when I've said thier usually a decent team, but not very good. 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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