PN-G vs Vidor, Lets name it....

[Guest Pirate_pride_07]

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Will some school, any school, please be Vidor's rival.  They're desparate for respect and think a rival will help.  May I suggest LCM - you know the school closest to you, in the same county, on the same side of the river.  Good luck and best wishes to the Bearly-Pirate Rivalry.
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that would be the BOJO vs VIDO rivalry
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That's who it needs to be. LC-M considers us their rival. Never understood how the two Orange County 4A teams could pick the two Mid-County teams as their rivals when they're basically next door to each other.
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Maybe cuz we genuinely don't like the midcounty teams.
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That doesn't make it a rivalry. Both schools have to consider each other rivals for it to be a real rivalry. No offense, but Nederland hardly pays any attention to Vidor outside of one week out of the year and the same is true for PN-G in regards to LC-M. If LC-M and Vidor want a true rivalry, they need to consider each other rivals. From an outside perspective, the schools aren't all that different and they're not very far from each other. That rivalry would make more sense.
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Well to us a rival is someone who you don't like more than the other teams. Not who's closest to you or whatever. And IMO we don't like PNG and Nederland the most out of the 20-4A teams.

[Sleepy1]

For some reason, somebody else picking my rival doesn't work for me....
;)

[Noles_Fan]

The Nederland "Wannabes" vs The Vidor Pirates

[PN-G bamatex]

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Well to us a rival is someone who you don't like more than the other teams. Not who's closest to you or whatever. And IMO we don't like PNG and Nederland the most out of the 20-4A teams.
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Even if Vidor doesn't want to consider any school other than Nederland a rival, there will not be a rivalry between the two schools until Nederland feels the same way about Vidor. The same goes for LC-M's feelings about PN-G.

[Guest Pirate_pride_07]

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Well to us a rival is someone who you don't like more than the other teams. Not who's closest to you or whatever. And IMO we don't like PNG and Nederland the most out of the 20-4A teams.
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Even if Vidor doesn't want to consider any school other than Nederland a rival, there will not be a rivalry between the two schools until Nederland feels the same way about Vidor. The same goes for LC-M's feelings about PN-G.
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In your eyes yes. In my eyes no. We clearly have a different definition of a rivalry so lets just agree to disagree cuz everyone knows we will go back and forth on this for hours and pages lol.

[knightrider]

"The snuff gulley shootout"  :D :D

[BMTSoulja1]

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The Barefoot Battle
The Skoal Bowl
Teeth vs. Tooth Bowl  8)
Dented up Pickups vs BMW Bowl
Bosses vs. Peasants Bowl
The Slow Motion Bowl

:) ;) :D ;D :o ??? :P 8)
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[liltex]

Halloween Bowl-Who treats who to some tricks ;D

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Halloween Bowl-Who treats who to some tricks ;D
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That's a good one.

[dme1111]

contractors kids vs. company sons
Red Necks vs. Redskins bowl

[Sleepy1]

So there are two assumptions out there:
1. Vidor thinks everyone is their rival,
2. No one thinks twice about, "cares about", or considers Vidor their rival.
As a pirate fan I love it. Strategically speaking, this would put us at a definite advantage in any given competition. Honestly, which mindset would you rather your players have?

By the way, I like the Redman vs Whiteman Bowl.

[PN-G bamatex]

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So there are two assumptions out there:
1. Vidor thinks everyone is their rival,
2. No one thinks twice about, "cares about", or considers Vidor their rival.
As a pirate fan I love it. Strategically speaking, this would put us at a definite advantage in any given competition. Honestly, which mindset would you rather your players have?

By the way, I like the Redman vs Whiteman Bowl.
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I don't think anyone's said that Vidor thinks everyone is their rival or that a team should overlook Vidor, especially not this year. I think all that's been said is that Vidor's so-called "rivalry" isn't really a rivalry. It's just Vidor hating Nederland more than the other teams on its schedule while Nederland looks at Vidor the same way as five its other district opponents.

[Guest Pirate_pride_07]

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[quote author=Sleepy1 link=topic=90322.msg1093176#msg1093176 date=1319490495]
So there are two assumptions out there:
1. Vidor thinks everyone is their rival,
2. No one thinks twice about, "cares about", or considers Vidor their rival.
As a pirate fan I love it. Strategically speaking, this would put us at a definite advantage in any given competition. Honestly, which mindset would you rather your players have?

By the way, I like the Redman vs Whiteman Bowl.
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I don't think anyone's said that Vidor thinks everyone is their rival or that a team should overlook Vidor, especially not this year. I think all that's been said is that Vidor's so-called "rivalry" isn't really a rivalry. It's just Vidor hating Nederland more than the other teams on its schedule while Nederland looks at Vidor the same way as five its other district opponents.
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To most people "hating" a team makes them your rival.

[PN-G bamatex]

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[quote author=Sleepy1 link=topic=90322.msg1093176#msg1093176 date=1319490495]
So there are two assumptions out there:
1. Vidor thinks everyone is their rival,
2. No one thinks twice about, "cares about", or considers Vidor their rival.
As a pirate fan I love it. Strategically speaking, this would put us at a definite advantage in any given competition. Honestly, which mindset would you rather your players have?

By the way, I like the Redman vs Whiteman Bowl.
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I don't think anyone's said that Vidor thinks everyone is their rival or that a team should overlook Vidor, especially not this year. I think all that's been said is that Vidor's so-called "rivalry" isn't really a rivalry. It's just Vidor hating Nederland more than the other teams on its schedule while Nederland looks at Vidor the same way as five its other district opponents.
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To most people "hating" a team makes them your rival.
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To most people, the other team hating you back makes them your rival.

[Guest Pirate_pride_07]

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So there are two assumptions out there:
1. Vidor thinks everyone is their rival,
2. No one thinks twice about, "cares about", or considers Vidor their rival.
As a pirate fan I love it. Strategically speaking, this would put us at a definite advantage in any given competition. Honestly, which mindset would you rather your players have?

By the way, I like the Redman vs Whiteman Bowl.
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I don't think anyone's said that Vidor thinks everyone is their rival or that a team should overlook Vidor, especially not this year. I think all that's been said is that Vidor's so-called "rivalry" isn't really a rivalry. It's just Vidor hating Nederland more than the other teams on its schedule while Nederland looks at Vidor the same way as five its other district opponents.
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To most people "hating" a team makes them your rival.
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To most people, the other team hating you back makes them your rival.
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Not really. Serena and Venus Williams love each other off the tennis court. But on the court they are fierce rivals.

[PN-G bamatex]

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So there are two assumptions out there:
1. Vidor thinks everyone is their rival,
2. No one thinks twice about, "cares about", or considers Vidor their rival.
As a pirate fan I love it. Strategically speaking, this would put us at a definite advantage in any given competition. Honestly, which mindset would you rather your players have?

By the way, I like the Redman vs Whiteman Bowl.
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I don't think anyone's said that Vidor thinks everyone is their rival or that a team should overlook Vidor, especially not this year. I think all that's been said is that Vidor's so-called "rivalry" isn't really a rivalry. It's just Vidor hating Nederland more than the other teams on its schedule while Nederland looks at Vidor the same way as five its other district opponents.
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To most people "hating" a team makes them your rival.
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To most people, the other team hating you back makes them your rival.
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Not really. Serena and Venus Williams love each other off the tennis court. But on the court they are fierce rivals.
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We're not talking about tennis and siblings playing each other individually, we're talking about football and teams. Different situations.

[Guest Pirate_pride_07]

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[quote author=Sleepy1 link=topic=90322.msg1093176#msg1093176 date=1319490495]
So there are two assumptions out there:
1. Vidor thinks everyone is their rival,
2. No one thinks twice about, "cares about", or considers Vidor their rival.
As a pirate fan I love it. Strategically speaking, this would put us at a definite advantage in any given competition. Honestly, which mindset would you rather your players have?

By the way, I like the Redman vs Whiteman Bowl.
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I don't think anyone's said that Vidor thinks everyone is their rival or that a team should overlook Vidor, especially not this year. I think all that's been said is that Vidor's so-called "rivalry" isn't really a rivalry. It's just Vidor hating Nederland more than the other teams on its schedule while Nederland looks at Vidor the same way as five its other district opponents.
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To most people "hating" a team makes them your rival.
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To most people, the other team hating you back makes them your rival.
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Not really. Serena and Venus Williams love each other off the tennis court. But on the court they are fierce rivals.
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We're not talking about tennis and siblings playing each other individually, we're talking about football and teams. Different situations.
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It doesn't matter what the situation is. The definition of rivals are the same no matter what sport.

[PN-G bamatex]

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[quote author=Sleepy1 link=topic=90322.msg1093176#msg1093176 date=1319490495]
So there are two assumptions out there:
1. Vidor thinks everyone is their rival,
2. No one thinks twice about, "cares about", or considers Vidor their rival.
As a pirate fan I love it. Strategically speaking, this would put us at a definite advantage in any given competition. Honestly, which mindset would you rather your players have?

By the way, I like the Redman vs Whiteman Bowl.
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I don't think anyone's said that Vidor thinks everyone is their rival or that a team should overlook Vidor, especially not this year. I think all that's been said is that Vidor's so-called "rivalry" isn't really a rivalry. It's just Vidor hating Nederland more than the other teams on its schedule while Nederland looks at Vidor the same way as five its other district opponents.
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To most people "hating" a team makes them your rival.
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To most people, the other team hating you back makes them your rival.
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Not really. Serena and Venus Williams love each other off the tennis court. But on the court they are fierce rivals.
[/quote]

We're not talking about tennis and siblings playing each other individually, we're talking about football and teams. Different situations.
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It doesn't matter what the situation is. The definition of rivals are the same no matter what sport.
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A rivalry implies mutual feelings between the involved parties. With siblings competing in an individual sport, that's much easier to establish and stems from their common backgrounds and circumstances. That's much harder to establish for football teams and schools in general. Nederland does not view Vidor in the same respect that Vidor views Nederland. Therefore, no rivalry exists.

[Guest Pirate_pride_07]

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So there are two assumptions out there:
1. Vidor thinks everyone is their rival,
2. No one thinks twice about, "cares about", or considers Vidor their rival.
As a pirate fan I love it. Strategically speaking, this would put us at a definite advantage in any given competition. Honestly, which mindset would you rather your players have?

By the way, I like the Redman vs Whiteman Bowl.
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I don't think anyone's said that Vidor thinks everyone is their rival or that a team should overlook Vidor, especially not this year. I think all that's been said is that Vidor's so-called "rivalry" isn't really a rivalry. It's just Vidor hating Nederland more than the other teams on its schedule while Nederland looks at Vidor the same way as five its other district opponents.
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To most people "hating" a team makes them your rival.
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To most people, the other team hating you back makes them your rival.
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Not really. Serena and Venus Williams love each other off the tennis court. But on the court they are fierce rivals.
[/quote]

We're not talking about tennis and siblings playing each other individually, we're talking about football and teams. Different situations.
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It doesn't matter what the situation is. The definition of rivals are the same no matter what sport.
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A rivalry implies mutual feelings between the involved parties. With siblings competing in an individual sport, that's much easier to establish and stems from their common backgrounds and circumstances. That's much harder to establish for football teams and schools in general. Nederland does not view Vidor in the same respect that Vidor views Nederland. Therefore, no rivalry exists.
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This is just a continuing circle Bamakid. Your definition of rivaly's and my definition differ. I think it doesn't take both parties to think there is one for there to be one. If one team looks at another team as there rival then that is a rivalry IMO.

[SETEXRIDER]

Vidor hates Nederland so bad because they want to be just like them but know they can't be.  :'(  ;D

[kru]

Rumble of the Redneck Redskins vs the Victorious Vidor Pirates

[PN-G bamatex]

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So there are two assumptions out there:
1. Vidor thinks everyone is their rival,
2. No one thinks twice about, "cares about", or considers Vidor their rival.
As a pirate fan I love it. Strategically speaking, this would put us at a definite advantage in any given competition. Honestly, which mindset would you rather your players have?

By the way, I like the Redman vs Whiteman Bowl.
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I don't think anyone's said that Vidor thinks everyone is their rival or that a team should overlook Vidor, especially not this year. I think all that's been said is that Vidor's so-called "rivalry" isn't really a rivalry. It's just Vidor hating Nederland more than the other teams on its schedule while Nederland looks at Vidor the same way as five its other district opponents.
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To most people "hating" a team makes them your rival.
[/quote]

To most people, the other team hating you back makes them your rival.
[/quote]
Not really. Serena and Venus Williams love each other off the tennis court. But on the court they are fierce rivals.
[/quote]

We're not talking about tennis and siblings playing each other individually, we're talking about football and teams. Different situations.
[/quote]
It doesn't matter what the situation is. The definition of rivals are the same no matter what sport.
[/quote]

A rivalry implies mutual feelings between the involved parties. With siblings competing in an individual sport, that's much easier to establish and stems from their common backgrounds and circumstances. That's much harder to establish for football teams and schools in general. Nederland does not view Vidor in the same respect that Vidor views Nederland. Therefore, no rivalry exists.
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This is just a continuing circle Bamakid. Your definition of rivaly's and my definition differ. I think it doesn't take both parties to think there is one for there to be one. If one team looks at another team as there rival then that is a rivalry IMO.
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Maybe so.

[bh89-2]

Weeping Indian Bowl

[tinman]

I've been around sports for many years and coached softball for 15.  One thing that I have learned is that some teams are loaded with talent and some have a little talent with all heart.  This years Vidor team is ALL Heart with a lot of talent.  I've seen them do things to much larger teams that they should not be able to do.  I will take heart any day.  Everyone keeps under estimating them and they just keep winning. 

[Guest Pirate_pride_07]

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I've been around sports for many years and coached softball for 15.  One thing that I have learned is that some teams are loaded with talent and some have a little talent with all heart.  This years Vidor team is ALL Heart with a lot of talent.  I've seen them do things to much larger teams that they should not be able to do.  I will take heart any day.  Everyone keeps under estimating them and they just keep winning.
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Amen. That's one thing that stats or recruiters or anything can measure is heart. Its the one thing that makes a good team a great team. And these Vidor players sure do have a lot of it. Especially after what happened to Matt.