PhatMack19 Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 [b]20-4A Team W L [/b] [b]Remaining game[/b]x-Nederland 6 0 @LCMx-Vidor 4 2 Livingston x-PN-G 4 2 CentralLivingston 4 2 @ VidorOzen 3 3 Lumberton[s]Central[/s] 1 5 @PNG[s]LC-M [/s] 1 5 Nederland[s]Lumberton[/s] 1 5 Ozen x- Clinched playoff berth
PhatMack19 Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Posted October 29, 2011 [quote name="Curelover32" post="1098397" timestamp="1319859916"]How is Ozen still alive?[/quote]Ozen beat Livingston, so if Vidor wins next week and both teams have 3 losses Ozen gets in if they are the only 2 teams with 3 losses.
Curelover32 Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Nevermind, forgot they beat Livingston.
pirate68 Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Ned,Vidor,and Png are all in I believe because all have beaten Ozen head to head....Livingston has to beat Vidor are Ozen is in because they lost to Ozen...Someone correct this if I am wrong.
Bigdog Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 I think if PNG, Vidor and Ozen win, Ozen would be in by virtue of the the tiebreaker with Livingston.
PhatMack19 Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Posted October 29, 2011 [quote name="pirate68" post="1098410" timestamp="1319860129"]Ned,Vidor,and Png are all in I believe because all have beaten Ozen head to head....Livingston has to beat Vidor are Ozen is in because they lost to Ozen...Someone correct this if I am wrong.[/quote]If PNG loses to Central, you could have a 3 way tie with PNG, Ozen, and the winner of Liv/Vidor. Then it would come down to point differential
ozenfreshman Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 If png wins and Livingston looses to vidor , and ozen wins , ozen is in
PhatMack19 Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Posted October 29, 2011 Vidor 4 2 Ozen +7, PNG -7, Liv ?Livingston 4 2 Ozen -1, PNG + 14, Liv ?PN-G 4 2 Liv -14, Ozen +17, Vidor +7= +7Ozen 3 3 Vidor -7, PNG-17, Liv +1= -20In a 3 way tie-Winner of Liv/Vidor is in. If Liv loses they are +13, PNG is +3, Ozen is -16. If Vidor loses they are at 0, PNG +24, Ozen -24. In any 3 way tie senario Ozen is out based on points. The only way this could happen is if Central actually decides to show up next week and beats PNG. In a 2 way tieVidor- Win and they are inPNG-Win and they are inLiv- Win and they are inOzen- Win, PNG win, Liv lossAccording to this(not sure if I'm correct) Vidor and PNG are in the playoffs. If you go by points, Ozen has too great of a deficit to overcome. Head to Head Vidor gets in over Ozen. The only playoff spot up for grabs is between Liv/Ozen.
PhatMack19 Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Posted October 29, 2011 [size=12pt][b]Clear as mud??[/b][/size]Anyone agree or disagree? All I know is my head hurts from thinking and it sucks that another football season is almost over. It always goes by way too fast! Hopefully some of these teams can make a long playoff run to extend it a little longer.
PhatMack19 Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Posted October 29, 2011 Also I don't remember if the max point differential is 17 or 18. I know it's one of those, but I don't think 1 point makes a difference in this case.
daddy23 Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Ned, PNG, and Vidor are all in.Livingston Controls its own destiny. Ozen gets in only with an Ozen Win, and a Vidor Win, and a PNG win next week.
Tim Riggins Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Playoff game for Livingston @ Vidor next week.
robanadana Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 I want the Panthers in the playoffs. At the Boneyard, Go Pirates!!!!
Lion56 Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 How do you count PNG in the playoffs already based on their record. If you say the ties go by head to head then Livingston should be ahead of PNG due to PNG's loss to Livingston. It's my understanding from talking with UIL athletics that the head to head issue with ties in district standings was dimantled a year ago and strictly goes by total points scored in district competition. Just a few thoughts. The Livingston vs Vidor game should be a good one.
PhatMack19 Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Posted October 29, 2011 [quote name="Lion56" post="1098822" timestamp="1319898696"]How do you count PNG in the playoffs already based on their record. If you say the ties go by head to head then Livingston should be ahead of PNG due to PNG's loss to Livingston. It's my understanding from talking with UIL athletics that the head to head issue with ties in district standings was dimantled a year ago and strictly goes by total points scored in district competition. Just a few thoughts. The Livingston vs Vidor game should be a good one.[/quote]If PNG wins and Ozen wins, this creates a 3 way tie. PNG will get in based on points and Ozen is out.
mullinsbd Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 which teams will be DIV.1 ans DIV. 2 for the playoffs?
Indianforever Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 [quote name="mullinsbd" post="1098867" timestamp="1319901368"]which teams will be DIV.1 ans DIV. 2 for the playoffs?[/quote]wont know for sure until next week
Razor Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Not certain, but pretty sure that Nederland and Vidor are already the div 1 reps...png will be div 2, just not certain if as the 1 or 2 seed, depending on the Vidor/Livingston outcome...if Livingston wins, they tie with png and get the top seed based on the head up match up...should Vidor win and Ozen win, then Ozen gets in and png will be the 1 seed, Ozen 2.
PhatMack19 Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Posted October 29, 2011 Yes, Nederland and Vidor are going D1
rvbulldogs Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Im rooting for the Panthers. I think they will represent the District well if the can continue to play better and better every week.
football04 Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 I'm pulling for Ozen also, very athletic team and will represent 20-4A well in the playoffs.
WOSgrad Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 [quote name="Lion56" post="1098822" timestamp="1319898696"]How do you count PNG in the playoffs already based on their record. If you say the ties go by head to head then Livingston should be ahead of PNG due to PNG's loss to Livingston. It's my understanding from talking with UIL athletics that the head to head issue with ties in district standings was dimantled a year ago and strictly goes by total points scored in district competition. [/quote]Not the case, the UIL DOES NOT have a tiebreaker system that is used state wide, they specifically state that the method of breaking ties is left strictly up to the executive committees of the individual districts.
WOSgrad Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Here is the language: "(h) TIES. The district executive committee shall determine in writing prior to the season the method to determine the district representatives in the event two or more schools are tied in win/loss percentages."http://www.uiltexas.org/files/athletics/manuals/dec-handbook.pdf
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