Vidor - Crosby, Thursday at Lamar, 7:30

[mytwocents-28]

[quote name="CCfan2011" post="1110175" timestamp="1320880164"]
[quote author=vp32 link=topic=91011.msg1110164#msg1110164 date=1320879651]
[quote author=CCfan2011 link=topic=91011.msg1110160#msg1110160 date=1320879408]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac1Oc7jwmBU

I know dayton won this game. but watch that cougar offense.
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more like watch that cougar defense give an early 14 to 0 lead.  8)
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http://www.click2houston.com/video/29694490/index.html

well then watch that. Coogs beat the [size=10pt][b]number 10 team in 4A[/b][/size] just last friday.
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http://www.setxsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=90739.0

http://www.setxsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=90746.0

http://www.setxsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=90725.0

None of those have BH in the top ten. Heck they're not even in the top 15.

[CCfan2011]

[quote name="vp32" post="1110180" timestamp="1320880622"]
[quote author=CCfan2011 link=topic=91011.msg1110175#msg1110175 date=1320880164]
[quote author=vp32 link=topic=91011.msg1110164#msg1110164 date=1320879651]
[quote author=CCfan2011 link=topic=91011.msg1110160#msg1110160 date=1320879408]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac1Oc7jwmBU

I know dayton won this game. but watch that cougar offense.
[/quote]
more like watch that cougar defense give an early 14 to 0 lead.  8)
[/quote]

http://www.click2houston.com/video/29694490/index.html

well then watch that. Coogs beat the [size=10pt][b]number 10 team in 4A[/b][/size] just last friday.
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http://www.setxsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=90739.0

http://www.setxsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=90746.0

http://www.setxsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=90725.0

None of those have BH in the top ten. Heck they're not even in the top 15.
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http://setxsports.com/index.php/football/schedules/1281-team-defensive-statistics-scoring

aww but you are mistaken. they are number 2, in defense. only allowing 7 points a game, while we scored 35 on them. and i was going off of their maxpreps 4a standings.

[mytwocents-28]

[quote name="CCfan2011" post="1110183" timestamp="1320880830"]
[quote author=vp32 link=topic=91011.msg1110180#msg1110180 date=1320880622]
[quote author=CCfan2011 link=topic=91011.msg1110175#msg1110175 date=1320880164]
[quote author=vp32 link=topic=91011.msg1110164#msg1110164 date=1320879651]
[quote author=CCfan2011 link=topic=91011.msg1110160#msg1110160 date=1320879408]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac1Oc7jwmBU

I know dayton won this game. but watch that cougar offense.
[/quote]
more like watch that cougar defense give an early 14 to 0 lead.  8)
[/quote]

http://www.click2houston.com/video/29694490/index.html

well then watch that. Coogs beat the [size=10pt][b]number 10 team in 4A[/b][/size] just last friday.
[/quote]
http://www.setxsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=90739.0

http://www.setxsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=90746.0

http://www.setxsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=90725.0

None of those have BH in the top ten. Heck they're not even in the top 15.
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http://setxsports.com/index.php/football/schedules/1281-team-defensive-statistics-scoring

aww but you are mistaken. they are number 2, in defense. only allowing 7 points a game, while we scored 35 on them. and i was going off of their [b]maxpreps 4a[/b] standings.
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enough said. max preps is more of a joke than DC

[Cougtalk]

[quote name="vp32" post="1110164" timestamp="1320879651"]
[quote author=CCfan2011 link=topic=91011.msg1110160#msg1110160 date=1320879408]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac1Oc7jwmBU

I know dayton won this game. but watch that cougar offense.
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more like watch that cougar defense give an early 14 to 0 lead.  8)
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After seeing that offensive style, i actually like our chances, we aren't going to bunch up on you bud. Fill those holes cougars, fill the holes.

[Cougtalk]

Alos just putting it out there, watch that final play of the Cougar v. Bronco game, that how close the Cougars are to a possible district championship... Gosh that ball hit his chest.

[CCfan2011]

[quote name="Cougtalk" post="1110194" timestamp="1320881550"]
Alos just putting it out there, watch that final play of the Cougar v. Bronco game, that how close the Cougars are to a possible district championship... Gosh that ball hit his chest.
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and the funny thing is, i have a picture to share! http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/374170_10150519881408569_192960988568_11252225_35682969_n.jpg pass interference? ;) we should won that. lol.

[Cougtalk]

Nah i mean they had been doing that all night without penalty. Both ways however. So Dayton adjusted with the screen play and we didn't its all fair in love and war and football.

[CCfan2011]

[quote name="Cougtalk" post="1110204" timestamp="1320881957"]
Nah i mean they had been doing that all night without penalty. Both ways however. So Dayton adjusted with the screen play and we didn't its all fair in love and war and football.
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eh oh well. Barbers hills defense gives on average 7.78 points a game up... we scored 35... and beat em. ;)

[Cougtalk]

[quote name="CCfan2011" post="1110212" timestamp="1320882231"]
[quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=91011.msg1110204#msg1110204 date=1320881957]
Nah i mean they had been doing that all night without penalty. Both ways however. So Dayton adjusted with the screen play and we didn't its all fair in love and war and football.
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eh oh well. Barbers hills defense gives on average 7.78 points a game up... we scored 35... and beat em. ;)
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and if we where vidor we would have put a worthless 7 on them to make our win look better, like they did to Livingston.

42 points would have easily happened. I love the Victory formation in the Redzone its slightly demoralizing.

[CCfan2011]

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[quote author=CCfan2011 link=topic=91011.msg1110212#msg1110212 date=1320882231]
[quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=91011.msg1110204#msg1110204 date=1320881957]
Nah i mean they had been doing that all night without penalty. Both ways however. So Dayton adjusted with the screen play and we didn't its all fair in love and war and football.
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eh oh well. Barbers hills defense gives on average 7.78 points a game up... we scored 35... and beat em. ;)
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and if we where vidor we would have put a worthless 7 on them to make our win look better, like they did to Livingston.

42 points would have easily happened. I love the Victory formation in the Redzone its slightly demoralizing.
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Haha, yea it was great. 1 minute 48 seconds, 1st and 10? lets go for the victory formation.

[daddy23]

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[quote author=vp32 link=topic=91011.msg1110164#msg1110164 date=1320879651]
[quote author=CCfan2011 link=topic=91011.msg1110160#msg1110160 date=1320879408]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac1Oc7jwmBU

I know dayton won this game. but watch that cougar offense.
[/quote]
more like watch that cougar defense give an early 14 to 0 lead.  8)
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After seeing that offensive style, i actually like our chances, we aren't going to bunch up on you bud. Fill those holes cougars, fill the holes.
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Ya'll did not bunch up.  ;)

[daddy23]

[quote name="Cougtalk" post="1108680" timestamp="1320732850"]
[quote author=daddy23 link=topic=91011.msg1108627#msg1108627 date=1320724915]
I know that we are long past talking football and mostly just smack talking. 

But some of the football talk on this thread (and the other thread) really had me curious.  I thought I would share what I found as I tried to research.  These are just my observations.  I am not a professional scout.  And note that this is mostly written to my fellow Vidor fans.

Crosby Offense:  I am not sure what # the Twins wear.  However, from what I saw of their QB (#7), he looked really impressive.  He looks better using his legs, but he can throw it.  He appeared to be more dangerous throwing when he could set his feet. 

I would best describe their offense is PNG-like.  They run the bubble screen.  A lot of fake handoff, QB keeper.  And a lot of shotgun, handoff to the RB lined up next to the QB.  There offense is explosive.  I saw quite a few big plays. 

One thing that I thought I noticed is that on many of their plays, they do not appear to use the line to block the LBs.  It appears that they are trying to neutralize the DL and then let the RBs make the LBs miss.  I know that we historically have struggled with the PNG-like offense.  But I thought we defended the Bubble screen very well against PNG.  And I would guess that Crosby would adjust and focus extra blockers on our LBs.  But I hate to guess too much on what Crosby will do.  Clearly, there coaches will have a better insight than I do.

Defense: I watched what they did defensively against Barbers Hill.  I do not think Vidor will see a similar scheme.  They really only had a 3 man front all night.  To echo what another poster said, there Right DE is a beast!

A few posters talked about how BH runs the same offense as Vidor.  This could really not be further from the truth.  BH seemed to run 2 basic offenses.  One was a spread.  But the offense that BH started with against Crosby was a Run oriented offense, but was not Wing T/Slot T.  I assure you that no coach in Crosby is confused and think that BH offense prepared them for Vidor's offense. 

Crosby's Defense had some huge Turnovers against BH.  They were difference makers.

Other Observations:  At  least twice Crosby went for it on 4th down.  Once, in the 1st half, crosby went for it on 4th and 1 from their own 14.  I could not believe what I was seeing.  They converted both times. 

Special Teams:  Crosby's Special Team play that I saw (against PNG and BH) seemed odd.  They had some big plays, but they gave up some big returns.  And they had one kickoff return that ended up inside their own 5.  I did not have a good angle for watching these plays, but it just seemed weird.

I am not sure who will win this game.  I think it is crazy to think that either team is clearly better than the other.  Could we have a blow-out?  Sure, anything can happen on a Friday night especially with all the pressure of the Playoffs.  If either team has early Turnovers, it could get ugly. 

But from what I saw, it should be 2 really good teams that match up on Thursday night.  I am going to try to watch more of Crosby and I may post some follow-up later in the week.
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Good post.

[b]Our Special Teams consistently makes us go what the heLL. [/b]

We are PNG like but more running then they do, they seem to pass as much as they run, we do not do this.

The defense you will see is a 3-3-5, and it will be getting played all night.

Also i expect the blocking scheme to be the same, if it didn't change vs BH (Great linebackers), there is no reason to change it for Vidor. The linebackers get picked by there own linemen most the time, and they almost always are put into bad angles by doubles on the linemen. Means we push the tackle 4 yards down field into the way of the linebackers.

Now i do believe there is potential for something like the PNG game to happen. However i simply believe if you give the Cougars a lead and there special teams doesn't hand you the game, your not gonna come back.

1 Yard is automatic for my Cougs, but tbh that play was a "I think they can't stop me" type of play. The coaching staff must have believed BH cannot stop the cougars on 4th down, and guess what they where right.

we were 3/3 on 4th down conversions btw.

I guess i don't know what your calling the slot t then, my bad my 60's football schemes book is a little faded. =p (Gotta have a little fun)
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[b]Our Special Teams consistently makes us go what the heLL. [/b]

That fumbled KO to start the 2nd half was a killer for Crosby.  We talked about this post in the stands after it happened.  It was a Huge Break for the Pirates!

[Cougtalk]

Honestly that won you the game.

[daddy23]

[quote name="Cougtalk" post="1112304" timestamp="1320996411"]
Honestly that won you the game.
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I think you are right.