19-4A vs 20-4A

knightrider · November 7, 2011

[quote name="hitman009" post="1107629" timestamp="1320678462"]
[quote author=Xaphoon link=topic=91032.msg1107521#msg1107521 date=1320648357]
[quote author=BH 89-2 link=topic=91032.msg1106349#msg1106349 date=1320538509]
19-4A can go 4-0 if we all play our game and make fewer mistakes. All 4 19-4A teams are better.
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20-4A can go 4-0 if they all score more points than the 19-4A teams they play.

How can you say all 4 19-4A teams are better? That is ridiculous. I wish that PNG was playing BH again so we could send y'all home crying and making excuses for the 3rd straight year.
[/quote]how can you say 19-4a teams are better?? well lets look at how 19 vs 20 did this year in pre season. 19 won 3-1.
I think it will be the same 3-1.
I think 20 4a is more competive. but when you take the top 4 I believe 19 is better.
I think Crosby beats Vidor. BH beats Ozen. Nederland beats GCM. I think it comes down to Dayton vs PNG on if it will be another split.
Seems like almost every year we argue on who has the best district but it ends up 2-2.
[/quote]Never underestimate the Broncos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7mary3 · November 7, 2011

Day vs [color=pink]P[/color]aul [color=pink]N[/color]ora [color=pink]G[/color]eorge - Dayton will give up a couple of scores early on in the game and finally settle down; will be a few turnovers, if this is a shootout then I give the edge to Dayton; [color=pink]P[/color]aul [color=pink]N[/color]ora [color=pink]G[/color]eorge needs to pound the ball in order to win and keep Dayton's O off the field....toss up

BH vs Ozen - Ozen makes to many mistakes but makes it a close one; BH will have to make some adjustments to Ozens speed but should win if they don't turn over the ball....

Crosby's School Board vs Vidor - Vidor's still upset about the INCIDENT and puts it on Crosby....

GCM vs Nederland - GCM's going to cause some turnovers and cut and tuck the Dog's....

As much as I'd like to see a 4-0 sweep I think it'll be 3-1 for 19-4A, bet it!

HubTx · November 7, 2011

There is no way 19-4A wins 3 out of 4.... I'll eat crow all day long if they do...

Nederland is a for sure win, and Vidor and PNG are at least 90% in my mind....

I'm even going to take Ozen in the upset because they do have such a speed advantage over BH....

jayhawk · November 7, 2011

[quote name="HubTx" post="1107986" timestamp="1320694898"]
There is no way 19-4A wins 3 out of 4.... I'll eat crow all day long if they do...

Nederland is a for sure win, and Vidor and PNG are at least 90% in my mind....

I'm even going to take Ozen in the upset because they do have such a speed advantage over BH....
[/quote] Dream on ! I'd like to know what you base your 90% on .

November 7, 2011

[quote name="HubTx" post="1107986" timestamp="1320694898"]
There is no way 19-4A wins 3 out of 4.... I'll eat crow all day long if they do...

Nederland is a for sure win, and Vidor and PNG are at least 90% in my mind....

I'm even going to take Ozen in the upset because they do have such a speed advantage over BH....
[/quote]

The only thing "for sure" is that your smite total just went to
-328.

bulldog1984 · November 7, 2011

All i can say is Nederland has tradition and GMC is just learning how to pronounce the word, with that said Big Ned will win. They are very hard to beat first round. just look at the last 10 to 15 years of first rounds.

Cougtalk · November 7, 2011

0-3 in past 3....

BHFAN · November 7, 2011

[quote name="bulldog1984" post="1108018" timestamp="1320696665"]
All i can say is Nederland has tradition and GMC is just learning how to pronounce the word, with that said Big Ned will win. They are very hard to beat first round. just look at the last 10 to 15 years of first rounds.
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Hasn't Crosby knocked you guys out of the 1st round the past two years?

HubTx · November 7, 2011

Why is PNG at 90% for me? They are hotter than anyone else in SETX right now.... Chase Bertrand has established himself as one of the best backs in the area over the last few weeks (As if he had any more to prove) and their defense has done their job.... I think PNG wins and wins it by 14....

Why is Vidor at 90% for me? Defense... They are the best equipped team to slow down the Crosby twins in 20-4A.... Vidor has eliminated one key thing from the last few seasons and that's turnovers.... They hold on to the football for 7 minutes at a time and get points, not turnovers.... Vidor will win this one in a low scoring game....

And Nederland is a for sure for me because they are the best team in 20-4A and GCM does not have enough to keep up with them.... I for one don't think GCM would beat any of the four 20-4A playoff teams.... Nederland's defense allowed around 13 points per game before the Ozen game, and I haven't seen the average since.... And ask people from BH, Nederland should have beaten them.... What did you do against BH?

And while I agree, Barbers Hill is a better team than Ozen, I believe that Ozen is going to provide matchup problems for the Eagles.... BH will have to find a way to corral some of that speed on Ozen's offensive unit, and they'll have to figure out a way to run it over Ozen's defense, because they WON'T run it AROUND them....

Now, if you would like to offer your opinions and give me reason other than "I'm from Dayton" or "I go to school at Goose Creek Memorial" then I'd be glad to listen!!!

HubTx · November 7, 2011

[quote name="jayhawk" post="1108010" timestamp="1320696293"]
[quote author=HubTx link=topic=91032.msg1107986#msg1107986 date=1320694898]
There is no way 19-4A wins 3 out of 4.... I'll eat crow all day long if they do...

Nederland is a for sure win, and Vidor and PNG are at least 90% in my mind....

I'm even going to take Ozen in the upset because they do have such a speed advantage over BH....
[/quote] Dream on ! I'd like to know what you base your 90% on .
[/quote]

Just posted it for you

HubTx · November 7, 2011

[quote name="GCMPats" post="1108012" timestamp="1320696375"]
[quote author=HubTx link=topic=91032.msg1107986#msg1107986 date=1320694898]
There is no way 19-4A wins 3 out of 4.... I'll eat crow all day long if they do...

Nederland is a for sure win, and Vidor and PNG are at least 90% in my mind....

I'm even going to take Ozen in the upset because they do have such a speed advantage over BH....
[/quote]

The only thing "for sure" is that your smite total just went to
-328.
[/quote]

HAHA I'll let you know when I care!!!!

November 7, 2011

Friday September 2, 2011 7:00pm

1 2 3 4 Total
Nederland 7 17 14 0 38
Baytown Goose Creek Memorial 7 0 7 6 20

Scoring summary
NED -- Carson Raines 1-yard run (Cole Ogrydziak kick), 05:30, 1st.
GCM -- Deandre Durden 15-yard run (Andre Ollivierre kick), 03:02, 1st.
NED -- Daniel Atterberry 5-yard pass from Carson Raines (Cole Ogrydziak kick), 10:34, 2nd.
NED -- Troy Benjamin 28-yard run (Cole Ogrydziak kick), 03:35, 2nd.
NED -- Cole Ogrydziak 41-yard field goal, 00:32, 2nd.
NED -- Seth Barrow 32-yard pass from Carson Raines (Cole Ogrydziak kick), 03:26, 3rd.
GCM -- Deandre Durden 18-yard run (Andre Ollivierre kick), 02:40, 3rd.
NED -- Michael Shaw 50-yard pass from Carson Raines (Cole Ogrydziak kick), 01:12, 3rd.
GCM -- Isaiah Wimberly 5-yard run (kick failed), 06:33, 4th.

Nederland Baytown Goose Creek Memorial
Total yards 371 323
First downs 18 13
Rushes/Yds 39/170 31/278
Average rush 4.36 8.97
Comp/Atts 14/20/0 4/12/1
Pass yards 201 45
Comp pct 70 33.33
Punts 3 2
Punting Yards 61 85
Punting Average 20.33 42.5
Fumbles/Lost 0/0 [b]3/2 [/b]
Penalties-yards 0-0 7-45

Complete domination?

HubTx · November 7, 2011

That was in Week 1 right???? You think these two teams are the same now????

I'll guarantee you Nederland beats you at least that bad again, probably worse....

HubTx · November 7, 2011

[quote name="GCMPats" post="1108029" timestamp="1320697172"]
Friday September 2, 2011 7:00pm

1 2 3 4 Total
Nederland 7 17 14 0 38
Baytown Goose Creek Memorial 7 0 7 6 20

Scoring summary
NED -- Carson Raines 1-yard run (Cole Ogrydziak kick), 05:30, 1st.
GCM -- Deandre Durden 15-yard run (Andre Ollivierre kick), 03:02, 1st.
NED -- Daniel Atterberry 5-yard pass from Carson Raines (Cole Ogrydziak kick), 10:34, 2nd.
NED -- Troy Benjamin 28-yard run (Cole Ogrydziak kick), 03:35, 2nd.
NED -- Cole Ogrydziak 41-yard field goal, 00:32, 2nd.
NED -- Seth Barrow 32-yard pass from Carson Raines (Cole Ogrydziak kick), 03:26, 3rd.
GCM -- Deandre Durden 18-yard run (Andre Ollivierre kick), 02:40, 3rd.
NED -- Michael Shaw 50-yard pass from Carson Raines (Cole Ogrydziak kick), 01:12, 3rd.
GCM -- Isaiah Wimberly 5-yard run (kick failed), 06:33, 4th.

Nederland Baytown Goose Creek Memorial
Total yards 371 323
First downs 18 13
Rushes/Yds 39/170 31/278
Average rush 4.36 8.97
Comp/Atts 14/20/0 4/12/1
Pass yards 201 45
Comp pct 70 33.33
Punts 3 2
Punting Yards 61 85
Punting Average 20.33 42.5
Fumbles/Lost 0/0 [b]3/2 [/b]
Penalties-yards 0-0 7-45

Complete domination?
[/quote]

And like I said in my original post, if you have reasoning behind why you think I'm wrong, I'd be glad to hear it....

bulldog1984 · November 7, 2011

If you would read my post i said the last 10 to 15 years not just last year . look at win to lost ratio, i bet its about 80 percent or better first round. that makes it hard to beat them first round... i say they are about 98.5 percent to doing it again this year.

BrenhamFan · November 7, 2011

Nice avitar GCMPats. Lol

UgotTRUCKED · November 7, 2011

[quote name="HubTx" post="1108023" timestamp="1320696847"]
Why is PNG at 90% for me? They are hotter than anyone else in SETX right now.... Chase Bertrand has established himself as one of the best backs in the area over the last few weeks (As if he had any more to prove) and their defense has done their job.... I think PNG wins and wins it by 14....

Why is Vidor at 90% for me? Defense... They are the best equipped team to slow down the Crosby twins in 20-4A.... Vidor has eliminated one key thing from the last few seasons and that's turnovers.... They hold on to the football for 7 minutes at a time and get points, not turnovers.... Vidor will win this one in a low scoring game....

And Nederland is a for sure for me because they are the best team in 20-4A and GCM does not have enough to keep up with them.... I for one don't think GCM would beat any of the four 20-4A playoff teams.... Nederland's defense allowed around 13 points per game before the Ozen game, and I haven't seen the average since.... And ask people from BH, Nederland should have beaten them.... What did you do against BH?

And while I agree, Barbers Hill is a better team than Ozen, I believe that Ozen is going to provide matchup problems for the Eagles.... BH will have to find a way to corral some of that speed on Ozen's offensive unit, and they'll have to figure out a way to run it over Ozen's defense, because they WON'T run it AROUND them....

Now, if you would like to offer your opinions and give me reason other than "I'm from Dayton" or "I go to school at Goose Creek Memorial" then I'd be glad to listen!!!
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I don't agree with most of what you posted, but I'll stick to what you said about BH-NED. The missed field goal is a failure to execute. Just like a dropped pass, fumbled snap, etc. BH fans felt like the oppurtunities were there for more points, we didn't execute, period. Ned is a good team, if GCM executes this will be a good match up, that is if Ned executes also.

November 7, 2011

What is your "reasoning"?

Ned got better? yada yada yada

There are no facts. Only opinions.

I'll stick to my opinion.

UgotTRUCKED · November 7, 2011

BH, Crosby, Dayton, GCM gets it done this week. 19-4A makes a statement.

bronco1 · November 7, 2011

BH is not slow, just saying...

Cougtalk · November 7, 2011

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BH is not slow, just saying...
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Yes they are... o wait i'm supposed to be supportive.

jayhawk · November 7, 2011

[font=courier]Why is PNG at 90% for me? They are hotter than anyone else in SETX right now.... Chase Bertrand has established himself as one of the best backs in the area over the last few weeks (As if he had any more to prove) and their defense has done their job.... I think PNG wins and wins it by 14....[/font] PNG will have to key off Dayton's RB ( McBride ) or he will burn you all night long and at the same time try to contain two of the best WR in SETX and if they manage that then our 3rd year QB will run right past you. PNG has their work cut out for them !

Ftballfan11 · November 7, 2011

Anyone that compares preseason stats to now is totally out of their minds.

LCM was 4-0... 1-0 against 19-4A (GCM)... Shouldn't that mean that they should be in the playoffs? Last year PNG started their season 1-4 and went as deep as Dayton (got a free pass in round 2) and deeper than any other 19 or 20-4A team. It's not how you start, it's how you finish. You can compare preseason stats all you want, but that fact remains that NONE of these teams are even remotely the same.

Every team has gotten better this season and I think that there will probably be another 2-2 split, but I think the upset alert is on BH... Ozen can turn into world beaters on any given night... It doesn't happen often, but it happens. BH, Crosby, PNG, and Ned make it through.

the_dude_abides · November 7, 2011

[quote name="GCMPats" post="1108042" timestamp="1320697792"]
What is your "reasoning"?

Ned got better? yada yada yada

There are no facts. Only opinions.

I'll stick to my opinion.
[/quote]

You're forgetting that 20-4A teams are the only ones that improve over the course of the season. They also get exponentially better when they receive a playoff spot. Lastly, the 20-4a know football better than any other fan base in Texas. This is why 20-4A will sweep 19-4A.

cbear4 · November 7, 2011

[quote name="HubTx" post="1108034" timestamp="1320697481"]
[quote author=GCMPats link=topic=91032.msg1108029#msg1108029 date=1320697172]
Friday September 2, 2011 7:00pm

1 2 3 4 Total
Nederland 7 17 14 0 38
Baytown Goose Creek Memorial 7 0 7 6 20

Scoring summary
NED -- Carson Raines 1-yard run (Cole Ogrydziak kick), 05:30, 1st.
GCM -- Deandre Durden 15-yard run (Andre Ollivierre kick), 03:02, 1st.
NED -- Daniel Atterberry 5-yard pass from Carson Raines (Cole Ogrydziak kick), 10:34, 2nd.
NED -- Troy Benjamin 28-yard run (Cole Ogrydziak kick), 03:35, 2nd.
NED -- Cole Ogrydziak 41-yard field goal, 00:32, 2nd.
NED -- Seth Barrow 32-yard pass from Carson Raines (Cole Ogrydziak kick), 03:26, 3rd.
GCM -- Deandre Durden 18-yard run (Andre Ollivierre kick), 02:40, 3rd.
NED -- Michael Shaw 50-yard pass from Carson Raines (Cole Ogrydziak kick), 01:12, 3rd.
GCM -- Isaiah Wimberly 5-yard run (kick failed), 06:33, 4th.

Nederland Baytown Goose Creek Memorial
Total yards 371 323
First downs 18 13
Rushes/Yds 39/170 31/278
Average rush 4.36 8.97
Comp/Atts 14/20/0 4/12/1
Pass yards 201 45
Comp pct 70 33.33
Punts 3 2
Punting Yards 61 85
Punting Average 20.33 42.5
Fumbles/Lost 0/0 [b]3/2 [/b]
Penalties-yards 0-0 7-45

Complete domination?
[/quote]

And like I said in my original post, if you have reasoning behind why you think I'm wrong, I'd be glad to hear it....
[/quote]
If I remember right. GCM fumbled on the Nederland 1 yard line on the QB/Center exchange and then fumbled again inside thier own 2 yard line and Nederland scored the next play. 14 point swing.... GCM did themselves in in this game but were far from being dominated. Pats is just stating the obvious without bias.

Domination is the 14-14 tie with BH turning into a 2nd half track meet! Same way with Manvel.. GCM has had their troubles finishing and will have to find a way to limit mistakes or they will be done.

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