puddin tane Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 passed disgust, entered comical early[u]one positive--Ray ray benched players[/u]. Talking with a player's parent..said jj hayes and the other wr were benched for attitude problems..said team had NO discipline, no respect, showing up late , etc...inmates running the asylumthis offensive line? non existent...kudos to prewitt/harmon/vinson for making it out alive--prewitt took an absolute beating ...dont know how he kept getting upour defense? well, there is noneAnd good game @ wr for Kevin Smith..good things come when you bust your arse..2 shoulder surgies, qb career over..kept that chin up and bingo--TD receptiontime to dump players and coaches...starting with the def coordinator and dim whittenafter this, i'm not so sure the big wigs are gonna be to patient with ray ray either
Guest sly0071 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 blue star for you, right on target with all your points.
Lazeek Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 Not even two years into a start up football program and you are calling for coaches heads............pretty ridiculous!!!!!!!
puddin tane Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name="LAZEEK" post="1106549" timestamp="1320549048"]Not even two years into a start up football program and you are calling for coaches heads............pretty ridiculous!!!!!!![/quote]i dont think you can watch that game and not say there should changes with [b]the O and D coordinators[/b]..[u]ridiculous[/u] would be saying they are getting it done..
bigred360 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 Did you see the crowd at the game? I bet there wasn't 8,000 people there. Gonna get worse if we kept getting beat 72-3, 66-0 and 69-10. Don't you know we got the best coaching staff in the SLC?
Guest twag11 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name="LAZEEK" post="1106549" timestamp="1320549048"]Not even two years into a start up football program and you are calling for coaches heads............pretty ridiculous!!!!!!![/quote]were you watching the same game? worst offensive playcalling ive EVER seen
Lazeek Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 Yep. I was there. Standing on the sidelines!!!!
Guest twag11 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name="LAZEEK" post="1106585" timestamp="1320550909"]Yep. I was there. Standing on the sidelines!!!![/quote]well on that note if you dont want anyone gone who are you related to on the coaching staff?
puddin tane Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name="LAZEEK" post="1106585" timestamp="1320550909"]Yep. I was there. Standing on the sidelines!!!![/quote] [b]can you honestly say[/b].....you think the O and D coordinators are getting it done?
Lazeek Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 Not related to anyone.Some guys on here act as if the LU Football program has been around for years. How do you expect great players to come here to a start up program. Gonna take time. Give this coaching staff 3-5 years. If it is not getting the job done then you have to consider all options. There is no doubt that Coach Woodard has what it takes. It is so funny how quick people will turn their backs on the team and coaches once they lose games. If they were winning it would be the best coaching staff in the conference. Right????How many starters are out right now??? Would they make up 50 something points, not likely but would make a big difference.
cardinal Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name="LAZEEK" post="1106585" timestamp="1320550909"]Yep. I was there. Standing on the sidelines!!!![/quote]Excellent. Perhaps you are one of the coaches. Do us a favor and find a new profession.
Lazeek Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name="puddin tane" post="1106605" timestamp="1320551401"][quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=91044.msg1106585#msg1106585 date=1320550909]Yep. I was there. Standing on the sidelines!!!![/quote] [b]can you honestly say[/b].....you think the O and D coordinators are getting it done?[/quote]I am a fan, not a coach or someone worthy of judging a coach!!! The same as you are. You have your opinion, and everyone has theirs!!!
Lazeek Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name="cardinal" post="1106608" timestamp="1320551484"][quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=91044.msg1106585#msg1106585 date=1320550909]Yep. I was there. Standing on the sidelines!!!![/quote]Excellent. Perhaps you are one of the coaches. Do us a favor and find a new profession.[/quote]It is fair weather fans like you cardinal why LU lost it's program in 89!!!!! Give them a chance!!!
smith Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 K. Smith was a nice surprise. I gotta give the Sparks young man a couple of stars on some of his put coverages. But... Hmmmm.
puddin tane Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name="LAZEEK" post="1106611" timestamp="1320551504"][quote author=puddin tane link=topic=91044.msg1106605#msg1106605 date=1320551401][quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=91044.msg1106585#msg1106585 date=1320550909]Yep. I was there. Standing on the sidelines!!!![/quote] [b]can you honestly say[/b].....you think the O and D coordinators are getting it done?[/quote]I am a fan, not a coach or someone worthy of judging a coach!!! The same as you are. You have your opinion, and everyone has theirs!!![/quote]i think you are more than qualified to answer that simple question
Lazeek Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 Sometimes the other team is just better than you are!!!!
bigred360 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 Dang, man you judged Coach Tubbs and Roc for years!!!!! Now you aren't qualified to judge a coach?????
Lazeek Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 Those coaches had been here for several years. And were not part of start up program!!!!!
bigred360 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 No, No, No you started on Coach Tubbs as soon as he reassigned your buddy Coach Deane. Plus, that is still judging.
Lazeek Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 I had sour grapes about that, but Tubbs did nothing while he was here the second go round. And Roc had no excuse. He was Tubbs Assistant and was doing the recruiting the entire time!!!And once again........The Hoop program was already in place. Not a start up program.I am not saying that somethings don't need to be tweaked, but a complete overhaul is not needed. Get healthy, get some confidence and things will change.
puddin tane Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name="LAZEEK" post="1106645" timestamp="1320553051"]I had sour grapes about that, but Tubbs did nothing while he was here the second go round. And Roc had no excuse. He was Tubbs Assistant and was doing the recruiting the entire time!!!And once again........The Hoop program was already in place. Not a start up program.I am not saying that somethings don't need to be tweaked, but a complete overhaul is not needed. Get healthy, get some confidence and things will change.[/quote]i don't think a new o and d coordinator would be a "complete" overhaul...nor would be letting players go that arent following the ruleswe're new, so bammy is new..we are getting spanked..they are hanging with nc st and kent st...[u]help explain that[/u]..yeah, they are 3rd year..their first was spent playing prep schools
bigred360 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name="LAZEEK" post="1106645" timestamp="1320553051"]I had sour grapes about that, but Tubbs did nothing while he was here the second go round. And Roc had no excuse. He was Tubbs Assistant and was doing the recruiting the entire time!!!And once again........The Hoop program was already in place. Not a start up program.I am not saying that somethings don't need to be tweaked, but a complete overhaul is not needed. Get healthy, get some confidence and things will change.[/quote]He only won his 600th game. Got Alan Daniels here (both from Tulsa) and he is the best player we have had in the last decade. He only coached the second time 3 years and was 18-11 his second year and 17-14 his third. Then as AD, we wouldn't even have a football program if it wasn't for Tubbs. I got that straight from Dr Simmons and if you don't believe him that is on you. Mike Deane was 15-16, 9-18, 15-14 and 13-14 and you were stating many times he needed more time. Roc, I agree with you he was given time and couldn't produce.I don't think everyone want's a complete overhaul of the coaching staff but if you can't see that our offense and defense is worse than last year you are just too close to the coaching staff (I'm talking being friends with them).
swampdude Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name="LAZEEK" post="1106613" timestamp="1320551556"][quote author=cardinal link=topic=91044.msg1106608#msg1106608 date=1320551484][quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=91044.msg1106585#msg1106585 date=1320550909]Yep. I was there. Standing on the sidelines!!!![/quote]Excellent. Perhaps you are one of the coaches. Do us a favor and find a new profession.[/quote]It is fair weather fans like you cardinal why LU lost it's program in 89!!!!! Give them a chance!!![/quote]I am not throwing in the towel after 2 seasons . Last year we were happy to have a team playing again. This year we are looking for one-year's worth of improvement. Not seeing much. I am not demanding wins at this point but I am expecting LU to begin competing. My clock says that Coach Woodard should have 4 full seasons to produce a good product. That means my expectations project us to be at least in the middle of the SLC pack in the next two seasons. I certainly hope that we didn't have a bunch of potential recruits at tonight's game. :P
bigred360 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 Well, Sam is full of sophomores and SFA is full of sophomores and juniors and Northwestern has been improving yearly under Bradley Peveto. So, replacing 22 seniors this year expecting to be in the middle of the pack next year is being very optimistic.
cardinal Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name="LAZEEK" post="1106606" timestamp="1320551425"]Not related to anyone.Some guys on here act as if the LU Football program has been around for years. How do you expect great players to come here to a start up program. Gonna take time. Give this coaching staff 3-5 years. If it is not getting the job done then you have to consider all options. There is no doubt that Coach Woodard has what it takes. It is so funny how quick people will turn their backs on the team and coaches once they lose games. If they were winning it would be the best coaching staff in the conference. Right????This has to be one of the dumbest posts ever.! Of course we'd think the coaches were great if we were winning! Duh, that is the point.! We aren't and we are getting embarrassed!How many starters are out right now??? Would they make up 50 something points, not likely but would make a big difference.[/quote]
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