East Chambers vs Tatum Predictions

[BUCman]

I played for Coach Evans and loved every minute of it, but to say that EC has been in the playoffs for 17 straight years because of him is idiotic.  Coach E has been gone for almost 10 years and EC has still made the playoffs.  I was lucky enough to have him for a mentor and he has helped me to become a better coach through my years, just by modeling the way that he coached us.  I was a field house rat that would hang around and try to pick up as much as possible from Coach Evans, East, Koch, Todd Sutherland, and Uncle Joe.  Maybe Tatum should be saying the same thing.  They are in the playoffs because of EC's old coach.  Good Luck to both teams.  I know there will be classy football played on the field by both sides, and like I said earlier, the winner controls their own Destiny.

[Tatum_DirtyBird]

[quote name="ECBucFan" post="1125991" timestamp="1321841540"]
[quote author=Eagleborn link=topic=91842.msg1125974#msg1125974 date=1321840742]
Thanks to our coach.
[/quote]

Andy ran a class program at EC, kinda looks like it hasn't translated very well at Tatum, though. Of course he can't controll trash talking fans. Go ahead, [s]Green Bay [/s] Tatum. Rant on...
[/quote]

Show me where any of the Tatum fans have trashed your team or coaches.  Evans has translated 3 State Championship appearances into 2 wins and a loss.  1 win in 3A and a win in 2A and a Loss in over-time to another former 3A Farmersville team.  Moved back up into 3A for 2 years, made the playoffs both years and went to the quarters last year.  Yeah, you may see  a couple of idiots from Tatum, but don't kid yourself, EC has 'em too even without the accomplisments.  Heck, I asked a civilized question and another Tatum fan answered it before y'all did.  It's almost like y'all don't want to actually talk football, rather just say "We are going to beat Tatum".  We'll see.  Now, if y'all want to be civil and talk football, shoot.  If not, we can smack talk with the best of them.

[EastTexasBall]

[quote name="ECBucFan" post="1125991" timestamp="1321841540"]
[quote author=Eagleborn link=topic=91842.msg1125974#msg1125974 date=1321840742]
Thanks to our coach.
[/quote]

Andy ran a class program at EC, kinda looks like it hasn't translated very well at Tatum, though. Of course he can't controll trash talking fans. Go ahead, [s]Green Bay [/s] Tatum. Rant on...
[/quote]

If your going to quote me then quote the whole thing...

The "lol" was there for a reason.

[WOSgrad]

[quote name="Eagle8" post="1125851" timestamp="1321831608"]
What kind of size ad speed are we looking at going up against EC? I know you guys are run heavy but how big should we expect and fast should we expect.

Tatum stand outs

#2 QB Jalen Overstreet(UT Comiitt) - 6'3 217 lbs, 4.5
#27 RB/DE L.J. Johnson - 6'2 220, 4.6
#1 WR/LB/S Nate Pickett - 6'3 200, 4.6
#18 TE/DE Daven Reese 6'2 220, 4.7
#52 C/DT L.A. Hale 6'2 285, 4.8
#24 RB Shaq Johnson 5'5 155, 4.4
#34 LB Kinao Lucas 6'0 215, 4.6
#16 LB/RB Keshawn Smith 6'1 180, 4.5(freshman, son of former Oakland Raider LB Travian Smith)
#54 DE Caleb Mobley 6'3 280
[/quote]

Okay, now that we have had the Tatum combine, how about some stats on what these guys have done on the field?

[ECfan4life!]

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1126077" timestamp="1321846792"]
[quote author=Eagle8 link=topic=91842.msg1125851#msg1125851 date=1321831608]
What kind of size ad speed are we looking at going up against EC? I know you guys are run heavy but how big should we expect and fast should we expect.

Tatum stand outs

#2 QB Jalen Overstreet(UT Comiitt) - 6'3 217 lbs, 4.5
#27 RB/DE L.J. Johnson - 6'2 220, 4.6
#1 WR/LB/S Nate Pickett - 6'3 200, 4.6
#18 TE/DE Daven Reese 6'2 220, 4.7
#52 C/DT L.A. Hale 6'2 285, 4.8
#24 RB Shaq Johnson 5'5 155, 4.4
#34 LB Kinao Lucas 6'0 215, 4.6
#16 LB/RB Keshawn Smith 6'1 180, 4.5(freshman, son of former Oakland Raider LB Travian Smith)
#54 DE Caleb Mobley 6'3 280
[/quote]

Okay, now that we have had the Tatum combine, how about some stats on what these guys have done on the field?
[/quote]
;D

[Tatum_DirtyBird]

[quote name="thetruth1" post="1125997" timestamp="1321841803"]
Maybe Tatum will bring their district runner-up trophy.
[/quote]

We'll leave the district runner-up trophy at home so we don't have carry 2 back on the bus.  I'll make sure y'all get a "Participant's Ribbon" though.

[Tatum_DirtyBird]

What's funny is that the players stats that Eagle8 gave are all very, very close.  I would say that LB Kiano Lucas is closer to 5'10" and 205 lbs and Keshawn Smith probably closer to 5'11" and 170 lbs. 

Bless y'alls hearts, y'all thought he was kidding

[EastTexasBall]

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1126077" timestamp="1321846792"]
[quote author=Eagle8 link=topic=91842.msg1125851#msg1125851 date=1321831608]
What kind of size ad speed are we looking at going up against EC? I know you guys are run heavy but how big should we expect and fast should we expect.

Tatum stand outs

#2 QB Jalen Overstreet(UT Comiitt) - 6'3 217 lbs, 4.5
#27 RB/DE L.J. Johnson - 6'2 220, 4.6
#1 WR/LB/S Nate Pickett - 6'3 200, 4.6
#18 TE/DE Daven Reese 6'2 220, 4.7
#52 C/DT L.A. Hale 6'2 285, 4.8
#24 RB Shaq Johnson 5'5 155, 4.4
#34 LB Kinao Lucas 6'0 215, 4.6
#16 LB/RB Keshawn Smith 6'1 180, 4.5(freshman, son of former Oakland Raider LB Travian Smith)
#54 DE Caleb Mobley 6'3 280
[/quote]

Okay, now that we have had the Tatum combine, how about some stats on what these guys have done on the field?
[/quote]

Overstreet is 1 for 2 through the air, 4 yards. Did all this while rushing for an jaw dropping 8 yards on 12 carries..

That good enough for you?

;D

[ECfan4life!]

[quote name="Tatum_DirtyBird" post="1126084" timestamp="1321847794"]
What's funny is that the players stats that Eagle8 gave are all very, very close.  I would say that LB Kiano Lucas is closer to 5'10" and 205 lbs and Keshawn Smith probably closer to 5'11" and 170 lbs. 

Bless y'alls hearts, y'all thought he was kidding
[/quote]
I didnt think he was kidding... but last time i checked thoose things didnt win you a football game.

[Tatum_DirtyBird]

[quote name="ECbucs#1!" post="1126092" timestamp="1321848225"]
[quote author=Tatum_DirtyBird link=topic=91842.msg1126084#msg1126084 date=1321847794]
What's funny is that the players stats that Eagle8 gave are all very, very close.  I would say that LB Kiano Lucas is closer to 5'10" and 205 lbs and Keshawn Smith probably closer to 5'11" and 170 lbs. 

Bless y'alls hearts, y'all thought he was kidding
[/quote]
I didnt think he was kidding... but last time i checked thoose things didnt win you a football game.
[/quote]

You may be right, but they don't hurt.... lol  anyone going to get me some stats on y'alls QB?  How many yards does he have?  I would give you some stats on our guys, but for whatever reason, they haven't been turning them in.

[ECfan4life!]

[quote name="Tatum_DirtyBird" post="1126095" timestamp="1321848530"]
[quote author=ECbucs#1! link=topic=91842.msg1126092#msg1126092 date=1321848225]
[quote author=Tatum_DirtyBird link=topic=91842.msg1126084#msg1126084 date=1321847794]
What's funny is that the players stats that Eagle8 gave are all very, very close.  I would say that LB Kiano Lucas is closer to 5'10" and 205 lbs and Keshawn Smith probably closer to 5'11" and 170 lbs. 

Bless y'alls hearts, y'all thought he was kidding
[/quote]
I didnt think he was kidding... but last time i checked thoose things didnt win you a football game.
[/quote]

You may be right, but they don't hurt.... lol  anyone going to get me some stats on y'alls QB?  How many yards does he have?  I would give you some stats on our guys, but for whatever reason, they haven't been turning them in.
[/quote]
Check the playoff capsule. It has them. Well should at least.

[Tatum_DirtyBird]

Thanks, looks like y'all have great running game and a decent passing game.  Got me a little concerned, our strength is our passing defense.  Our run defense is suspect.

[thetruth1]

[quote name="Tatum_DirtyBird" post="1126095" timestamp="1321848530"]
[quote author=ECbucs#1! link=topic=91842.msg1126092#msg1126092 date=1321848225]
[quote author=Tatum_DirtyBird link=topic=91842.msg1126084#msg1126084 date=1321847794]
What's funny is that the players stats that Eagle8 gave are all very, very close.  I would say that LB Kiano Lucas is closer to 5'10" and 205 lbs and Keshawn Smith probably closer to 5'11" and 170 lbs. 

Bless y'alls hearts, y'all thought he was kidding
[/quote]
I didnt think he was kidding... but last time i checked thoose things didnt win you a football game.
[/quote]

You may be right, but they don't hurt.... lol  anyone going to get me some stats on y'alls QB?  How many yards does he have?  I would give you some stats on our guys, but for whatever reason, they haven't been turning them in.
[/quote]

Please keep worrying about our QB's stats  ;D

[Guest ECBucFan]

[quote author=Tatum_DirtyBird ]
Evans has translated... [/quote]

I would describe it more as "inherited", as in Lennon Creer & Co., for example.

Interesting, after Andy left EC, universally (AFAIK) the EC folks wished Andy and Tatum well, and were happy to support his sucess there. Now, we have Tatum people discovering SETXSports and posting basketballs and predicting 56-12 blowouts or whatever.

I don't have a clue how this game will actually go, but I would not stoop to those levels on a Tatum area board, and I doubt anyone from EC would either. Oh well. Like I said, rant on if y'all must.

[Tatum_DirtyBird]

[quote name="thetruth1" post="1126114" timestamp="1321850254"]
[quote author=Tatum_DirtyBird link=topic=91842.msg1126095#msg1126095 date=1321848530]
[quote author=ECbucs#1! link=topic=91842.msg1126092#msg1126092 date=1321848225]
[quote author=Tatum_DirtyBird link=topic=91842.msg1126084#msg1126084 date=1321847794]
What's funny is that the players stats that Eagle8 gave are all very, very close.  I would say that LB Kiano Lucas is closer to 5'10" and 205 lbs and Keshawn Smith probably closer to 5'11" and 170 lbs. 

Bless y'alls hearts, y'all thought he was kidding
[/quote]
I didnt think he was kidding... but last time i checked thoose things didnt win you a football game.
[/quote]

You may be right, but they don't hurt.... lol  anyone going to get me some stats on y'alls QB?  How many yards does he have?  I would give you some stats on our guys, but for whatever reason, they haven't been turning them in.
[/quote]

Please keep worrying about our QB's stats  ;D
[/quote]

Just curious.  Not worried about y'alls passing, it's our lack of run defense that has me worried.

[ECfan4life!]

[quote name="Tatum_DirtyBird" post="1126119" timestamp="1321850514"]
[quote author=thetruth1 link=topic=91842.msg1126114#msg1126114 date=1321850254]
[quote author=Tatum_DirtyBird link=topic=91842.msg1126095#msg1126095 date=1321848530]
[quote author=ECbucs#1! link=topic=91842.msg1126092#msg1126092 date=1321848225]
[quote author=Tatum_DirtyBird link=topic=91842.msg1126084#msg1126084 date=1321847794]
What's funny is that the players stats that Eagle8 gave are all very, very close.  I would say that LB Kiano Lucas is closer to 5'10" and 205 lbs and Keshawn Smith probably closer to 5'11" and 170 lbs. 

Bless y'alls hearts, y'all thought he was kidding
[/quote]
I didnt think he was kidding... but last time i checked thoose things didnt win you a football game.
[/quote]

You may be right, but they don't hurt.... lol  anyone going to get me some stats on y'alls QB?  How many yards does he have?  I would give you some stats on our guys, but for whatever reason, they haven't been turning them in.
[/quote]

Please keep worrying about our QB's stats  ;D
[/quote]

Just curious.  Not worried about y'alls passing, it's our lack of run defense that has me worried.
[/quote]
How good is yals passing?

[EastTexasBall]

[quote name="ECBucFan" post="1126117" timestamp="1321850420"]
[quote author=Tatum_DirtyBird ]
Evans has translated... [/quote]

I would describe it more as "inherited", as in Lennon Creer & Co., for example.

Interesting, after Andy left EC, universally (AFAIK) the EC folks wished Andy and Tatum well, and were happy to support his sucess there. Now, we have Tatum people discovering SETXSports and posting basketballs and predicting 56-12 blowouts or whatever.

I don't have a clue how this game will actually go, but I would not stoop to those levels on a Tatum area board, and I doubt anyone from EC would either. Oh well. Like I said, rant on if y'all must.
[/quote]

The basketball was posted towards the woodville person..

Yall are to dang uptight. Relax, take a breath... have some fun...

[EastTexasBall]

[quote name="thetruth1" post="1126114" timestamp="1321850254"]
[quote author=Tatum_DirtyBird link=topic=91842.msg1126095#msg1126095 date=1321848530]
[quote author=ECbucs#1! link=topic=91842.msg1126092#msg1126092 date=1321848225]
[quote author=Tatum_DirtyBird link=topic=91842.msg1126084#msg1126084 date=1321847794]
What's funny is that the players stats that Eagle8 gave are all very, very close.  I would say that LB Kiano Lucas is closer to 5'10" and 205 lbs and Keshawn Smith probably closer to 5'11" and 170 lbs. 

Bless y'alls hearts, y'all thought he was kidding
[/quote]
I didnt think he was kidding... but last time i checked thoose things didnt win you a football game.
[/quote]

You may be right, but they don't hurt.... lol  anyone going to get me some stats on y'alls QB?  How many yards does he have?  I would give you some stats on our guys, but for whatever reason, they haven't been turning them in.
[/quote]

Please keep worrying about our QB's stats  ;D
[/quote]

#27 has been known to take a snap or two and he's one to worry about, for sure.

[Tatum_DirtyBird]

[quote name="ECbucs#1!" post="1126120" timestamp="1321850599"]
[quote author=Tatum_DirtyBird link=topic=91842.msg1126119#msg1126119 date=1321850514]
[quote author=thetruth1 link=topic=91842.msg1126114#msg1126114 date=1321850254]
[quote author=Tatum_DirtyBird link=topic=91842.msg1126095#msg1126095 date=1321848530]
[quote author=ECbucs#1! link=topic=91842.msg1126092#msg1126092 date=1321848225]
[quote author=Tatum_DirtyBird link=topic=91842.msg1126084#msg1126084 date=1321847794]
What's funny is that the players stats that Eagle8 gave are all very, very close.  I would say that LB Kiano Lucas is closer to 5'10" and 205 lbs and Keshawn Smith probably closer to 5'11" and 170 lbs. 

Bless y'alls hearts, y'all thought he was kidding
[/quote]
I didnt think he was kidding... but last time i checked thoose things didnt win you a football game.
[/quote]

You may be right, but they don't hurt.... lol  anyone going to get me some stats on y'alls QB?  How many yards does he have?  I would give you some stats on our guys, but for whatever reason, they haven't been turning them in.
[/quote]

Please keep worrying about our QB's stats  ;D
[/quote]

Just curious.  Not worried about y'alls passing, it's our lack of run defense that has me worried.
[/quote]
How good is yals passing?
[/quote]

Our passing has been somewhat inconsistant.  Not sure what the stats are.

[ECfan4life!]

[quote name="Tatum_DirtyBird" post="1126129" timestamp="1321851223"]
[quote author=ECbucs#1! link=topic=91842.msg1126120#msg1126120 date=1321850599]
[quote author=Tatum_DirtyBird link=topic=91842.msg1126119#msg1126119 date=1321850514]
[quote author=thetruth1 link=topic=91842.msg1126114#msg1126114 date=1321850254]
[quote author=Tatum_DirtyBird link=topic=91842.msg1126095#msg1126095 date=1321848530]
[quote author=ECbucs#1! link=topic=91842.msg1126092#msg1126092 date=1321848225]
[quote author=Tatum_DirtyBird link=topic=91842.msg1126084#msg1126084 date=1321847794]
What's funny is that the players stats that Eagle8 gave are all very, very close.  I would say that LB Kiano Lucas is closer to 5'10" and 205 lbs and Keshawn Smith probably closer to 5'11" and 170 lbs. 

Bless y'alls hearts, y'all thought he was kidding
[/quote]
I didnt think he was kidding... but last time i checked thoose things didnt win you a football game.
[/quote]

You may be right, but they don't hurt.... lol  anyone going to get me some stats on y'alls QB?  How many yards does he have?  I would give you some stats on our guys, but for whatever reason, they haven't been turning them in.
[/quote]

Please keep worrying about our QB's stats  ;D
[/quote]

Just curious.  Not worried about y'alls passing, it's our lack of run defense that has me worried.
[/quote]
How good is yals passing?
[/quote]

Our passing has been somewhat inconsistant.  Not sure what the stats are.
[/quote]
Oh. Well im not too worried about stats... Some of thoose may just be aginst a fairly bad team, and they built up then.. but then again it could just really show how good they are.

[BigEagle]

Tatum's number one problem is they play down, when playing against teams hat ar not as good.  They have payed there best ball when they though that they had too.  Won all of here pre-seaon against good 3-A school with te exception of Gilmer.  Gilmer game they actually played k, but gave up big plays on 3rd and th and long.  Also failed to get in endzone 3 times in the redzone.

East Chambers will play hard disciplined ball.  Tatum better come out and play hard, or they will be the ones headed home to play basketball.  I do not believe anyone from Tatum thinks that EC will be a push over.  Sorry I let someone from Kirbyville get under my skin.

Cocky and confident can sometimes get confused.  Most of the Tatum fans on here know what our team is capable of, but we also know that they can play down and give it away.  Like I have stated, if they play 4 full quarters, it will be a long night for EC.  If they let them hang around or jump ahead and quit, then Tatum will have not achieved hat they are capable of doing. 

Hope both teams and fans have a safe trip and may the best team win.

[Lefty99]

One way or the other there is going to be alot of crow served to someone after this one... ;D

[ECFAN#1]

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1126077" timestamp="1321846792"]
[quote author=Eagle8 link=topic=91842.msg1125851#msg1125851 date=1321831608]
What kind of size ad speed are we looking at going up against EC? I know you guys are run heavy but how big should we expect and fast should we expect.

Tatum stand outs

#2 QB Jalen Overstreet(UT Comiitt) - 6'3 217 lbs, 4.5
#27 RB/DE L.J. Johnson - 6'2 220, 4.6
#1 WR/LB/S Nate Pickett - 6'3 200, 4.6
#18 TE/DE Daven Reese 6'2 220, 4.7
#52 C/DT L.A. Hale 6'2 285, 4.8
#24 RB Shaq Johnson 5'5 155, 4.4
#34 LB Kinao Lucas 6'0 215, 4.6
#16 LB/RB Keshawn Smith 6'1 180, 4.5(freshman, son of former Oakland Raider LB Travian Smith)
#54 DE Caleb Mobley 6'3 280
[/quote]

Okay, now that we have had the Tatum combine, how about some stats on what these guys have done on the field?
[/quote]

Here are a few stats from MaxPreps:
Tatum Eagles
Team Records
Overall Win % PF PA
11-2-0 .846 437 224
Record Breakdown
Home Away Neutral League
4-1-0 4-1-0 3-0-0 4-1-0
Team Rankings
National State State Div. Sec.
1349        172          10                    35

East Chambers Buccaneers
Team Records
Overall Win % PF PA
9-2-0 .818 423 161
Record Breakdown
Home Away Neutral League
4-1-0 4-1-0 1-0-0 7-0-0
Team Rankings
National State State Div. Sec.
2061      241            14                  54

Team Scoring Averages
School Name        Q1      Q2 Q3 Q4 Final
Tatum
                        10.5 7.0   0   6.0 33.6
East Chambers
                        7.0 17.3 11.0 6.7 38.5

Gone to have to stop QB #2 Jalan Overstreet then game over. Otherwise it's a close game. A little fudging on the #'s. #2 Jalan Overstreet 6'2", 205LBS 6.56 and has UT Committed YES. Stop him and their done. Stop'em won't be easy. Tatum defense has given up alot of points. Game will be decided on the field and talk is cheap.

[NedDog]

[move][glow=green,2,300][size=24pt][b]Go Bucs!![/b][/size][/glow][/move]

[jbabi86]

[quote name="BigEagle" post="1125886" timestamp="1321834327"]
Big difference between SE Texas football and NE Texas football.  If Tatum plays for four quarters, then EC does not stand a chance.  But if Tatum decides to not play the second half like they did against Yoe, then it could be a close game.
[/quote]

Just what I was thinking.... totally different NE to SE.. NE being better... you guys down in SE Texas need to get out a little more.....

for a 2A team... Tatum has tremendous athletes.....and a good scheme to boot.....Not to mention they have been there and done that in the last several years...