NEDERLAND VS. HARDIN-JEFFERSON BROADCAST/HJ WINS 71-46

[stevenash]

[quote name="ForeverADog" post="1127398" timestamp="1321979014"]
Disappointing result. Still a work in progress. With such a young team I expected growing pains.

If Weisbrod wasn't in the post than that is a crying shame. He is one of the smoothest post players you will see at this level.

Great second half HJ and best of luck on the season.
[/quote]

No telling how many putbacks he might have missed out on by being on the perimeter.  It also takes pressure OFF the defense when they see him at the top of the key.  If he were down low more, I believe that the oppositions concern with that fact would open up some more threes for teammates.

[ForeverADog]

He was on the block all year last season. I wonder why the change... But I trust Coach English and he'll get it figured out and we will be much improved by district.

[asary]

Hey Nash.....Make sure all those HJ players keep running cross country....I wouldn't change a thing! I fully expect them to have a great season!

[Lazeek]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1126911" timestamp="1321926558"]
Both teams playing zone defense in the half court. HJ pressing as usual, Ned yet to press.
[/quote]

Actually Ned played a sagging man defense in the 1st half!!!

[stevenash]

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1128006" timestamp="1322020316"]
Hey Nash.....Make sure all those HJ players keep running cross country....I wouldn't change a thing! I fully expect them to have a great season!
[/quote]

It does make one wonder if, possibly, the coaching staff knows what is best for their team/players.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1128097" timestamp="1322049079"]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=92034.msg1128006#msg1128006 date=1322020316]
Hey Nash.....Make sure all those HJ players keep running cross country....I wouldn't change a thing! I fully expect them to have a great season!
[/quote]

It does make one wonder if, possibly, the coaching staff knows what is best for their team/players.
[/quote]Each team is different with different needs.

[stevenash]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1128121" timestamp="1322055406"]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128097#msg1128097 date=1322049079]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=92034.msg1128006#msg1128006 date=1322020316]
Hey Nash.....Make sure all those HJ players keep running cross country....I wouldn't change a thing! I fully expect them to have a great season!
[/quote]

It does make one wonder if, possibly, the coaching staff knows what is best for their team/players.
[/quote]Each team is different with different needs.
[/quote]

No doubt- and nobody better qualified to determine those needs than the coaching staff

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1128141" timestamp="1322057054"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=92034.msg1128121#msg1128121 date=1322055406]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128097#msg1128097 date=1322049079]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=92034.msg1128006#msg1128006 date=1322020316]
Hey Nash.....Make sure all those HJ players keep running cross country....I wouldn't change a thing! I fully expect them to have a great season!
[/quote]

It does make one wonder if, possibly, the coaching staff knows what is best for their team/players.
[/quote]Each team is different with different needs.
[/quote]

No doubt- and nobody better qualified to determine those needs than the coaching staff
[/quote]I agree! I hate HJ's coaching staff so much that I love them. ;D

[stevenash]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1128187" timestamp="1322059685"]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128141#msg1128141 date=1322057054]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=92034.msg1128121#msg1128121 date=1322055406]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128097#msg1128097 date=1322049079]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=92034.msg1128006#msg1128006 date=1322020316]
Hey Nash.....Make sure all those HJ players keep running cross country....I wouldn't change a thing! I fully expect them to have a great season!
[/quote]

It does make one wonder if, possibly, the coaching staff knows what is best for their team/players.
[/quote]Each team is different with different needs.
[/quote]

No doubt- and nobody better qualified to determine those needs than the coaching staff
[/quote]I agree! I hate HJ's coaching staff so much that I love them. ;D
[/quote]

That statement is too "deep" for me.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1128200" timestamp="1322060815"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=92034.msg1128187#msg1128187 date=1322059685]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128141#msg1128141 date=1322057054]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=92034.msg1128121#msg1128121 date=1322055406]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128097#msg1128097 date=1322049079]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=92034.msg1128006#msg1128006 date=1322020316]
Hey Nash.....Make sure all those HJ players keep running cross country....I wouldn't change a thing! I fully expect them to have a great season!
[/quote]

It does make one wonder if, possibly, the coaching staff knows what is best for their team/players.
[/quote]Each team is different with different needs.
[/quote]

No doubt- and nobody better qualified to determine those needs than the coaching staff
[/quote]I agree! I hate HJ's coaching staff so much that I love them. ;D
[/quote]

That statement is too "deep" for me.
[/quote]Reminds me of that old Bill Withers' song. He says something like," if she's using me I hope she keep using me till she uses me up."  ???

[asary]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1128141" timestamp="1322057054"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=92034.msg1128121#msg1128121 date=1322055406]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128097#msg1128097 date=1322049079]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=92034.msg1128006#msg1128006 date=1322020316]
Hey Nash.....Make sure all those HJ players keep running cross country....I wouldn't change a thing! I fully expect them to have a great season!
[/quote]

It does make one wonder if, possibly, the coaching staff knows what is best for their team/players.
[/quote]Each team is different with different needs.
[/quote]

No doubt- and nobody better qualified to determine those needs than the coaching staff
[/quote]


I still stand firm on my formerly stated conditioning opinion  ;D ;D However, congrats to HJ...great coaching...great athletes....great team...great season to come!

[stevenash]

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1128370" timestamp="1322072954"]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128141#msg1128141 date=1322057054]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=92034.msg1128121#msg1128121 date=1322055406]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128097#msg1128097 date=1322049079]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=92034.msg1128006#msg1128006 date=1322020316]
Hey Nash.....Make sure all those HJ players keep running cross country....I wouldn't change a thing! I fully expect them to have a great season!
[/quote]

It does make one wonder if, possibly, the coaching staff knows what is best for their team/players.
[/quote]Each team is different with different needs.
[/quote]

No doubt- and nobody better qualified to determine those needs than the coaching staff
[/quote]


I still stand firm on my formerly stated conditioning opinion  ;D ;D However, congrats to HJ...great coaching...great athletes....great team...great season to come!
[/quote]

I think we all know that there is not a  single "right" answer to conditioning programs.  If you use a method that is successful, you are not about to depart from it because somebody else advocates something that SEEMS more sophisticated or has more intellectual appeal.  At the high school level, I would be equally if not more concerned with the mental conditioning as opposed to the physical.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1128388" timestamp="1322073956"]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=92034.msg1128370#msg1128370 date=1322072954]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128141#msg1128141 date=1322057054]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=92034.msg1128121#msg1128121 date=1322055406]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128097#msg1128097 date=1322049079]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=92034.msg1128006#msg1128006 date=1322020316]
Hey Nash.....Make sure all those HJ players keep running cross country....I wouldn't change a thing! I fully expect them to have a great season!
[/quote]

It does make one wonder if, possibly, the coaching staff knows what is best for their team/players.
[/quote]Each team is different with different needs.
[/quote]

No doubt- and nobody better qualified to determine those needs than the coaching staff
[/quote]


I still stand firm on my formerly stated conditioning opinion  ;D ;D However, congrats to HJ...great coaching...great athletes....great team...great season to come!
[/quote]

I think we all know that there is not a  single "right" answer to conditioning programs.  If you use a method that is successful, you are not about to depart from it because somebody else advocates something that SEEMS more sophisticated or has more intellectual appeal.  At the high school level, I would be equally if not more concerned with the mental conditioning as opposed to the physical.
[/quote]Give me a fat out of shape HJ player with heart any day over a conditioned Evadale player, and my HJ player will win (took a lot for me to say that)

[stevenash]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1128427" timestamp="1322075765"]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128388#msg1128388 date=1322073956]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=92034.msg1128370#msg1128370 date=1322072954]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128141#msg1128141 date=1322057054]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=92034.msg1128121#msg1128121 date=1322055406]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128097#msg1128097 date=1322049079]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=92034.msg1128006#msg1128006 date=1322020316]
Hey Nash.....Make sure all those HJ players keep running cross country....I wouldn't change a thing! I fully expect them to have a great season!
[/quote]

It does make one wonder if, possibly, the coaching staff knows what is best for their team/players.
[/quote]Each team is different with different needs.
[/quote]

No doubt- and nobody better qualified to determine those needs than the coaching staff
[/quote]


I still stand firm on my formerly stated conditioning opinion  ;D ;D However, congrats to HJ...great coaching...great athletes....great team...great season to come!
[/quote]

I think we all know that there is not a  single "right" answer to conditioning programs.  If you use a method that is successful, you are not about to depart from it because somebody else advocates something that SEEMS more sophisticated or has more intellectual appeal.  At the high school level, I would be equally if not more concerned with the mental conditioning as opposed to the physical.
[/quote]Give me a fat out of shape HJ player with heart any day over a conditioned Evadale player, and my HJ player will win (took a lot for me to say that)
[/quote]

That statement is highly inspirational and well reasoned.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1128428" timestamp="1322075874"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=92034.msg1128427#msg1128427 date=1322075765]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128388#msg1128388 date=1322073956]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=92034.msg1128370#msg1128370 date=1322072954]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128141#msg1128141 date=1322057054]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=92034.msg1128121#msg1128121 date=1322055406]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128097#msg1128097 date=1322049079]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=92034.msg1128006#msg1128006 date=1322020316]
Hey Nash.....Make sure all those HJ players keep running cross country....I wouldn't change a thing! I fully expect them to have a great season!
[/quote]

It does make one wonder if, possibly, the coaching staff knows what is best for their team/players.
[/quote]Each team is different with different needs.
[/quote]

No doubt- and nobody better qualified to determine those needs than the coaching staff
[/quote]


I still stand firm on my formerly stated conditioning opinion  ;D ;D However, congrats to HJ...great coaching...great athletes....great team...great season to come!
[/quote]

I think we all know that there is not a  single "right" answer to conditioning programs.  If you use a method that is successful, you are not about to depart from it because somebody else advocates something that SEEMS more sophisticated or has more intellectual appeal.  At the high school level, I would be equally if not more concerned with the mental conditioning as opposed to the physical.
[/quote]Give me a fat out of shape HJ player with heart any day over a conditioned Evadale player, and my HJ player will win (took a lot for me to say that)
[/quote]

That statement is highly inspirational and well reasoned.
[/quote]Thank you !

[stevenash]

I am going to the HJ staff today and attempt to impress upon them that they are not doing enough basketball specific conditioning and that the current, outmoded approach should be abandoned immediately.  There is no telling where Mr. Prudhomme could be right now if he had trained properly.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1128435" timestamp="1322076142"]
I am going to the HJ staff today and attempt to impress upon them that they are not doing enough basketball specific conditioning and that the current, outmoded approach should be abandoned immediately.  There is no telling where Mr. Prudhomme could be right now if he had trained properly.
[/quote]Excellent point!

[stevenash]

Dove- do you feel as though Kountze and Nederland have properly employed the more up to date conditioning approach?

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1128439" timestamp="1322076285"]
Dove- do you feel as though Kountze and Nederland have properly employed the more up to date conditioning approach?
[/quote]Conditioning is not the issue here.

[stevenash]

Hmmm- what is it that was being discussed in the last few exchanges?

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1128487" timestamp="1322079805"]
Hmmm- what is it that was being discussed in the last few exchanges?
[/quote]nEDERLAND for sure

[asary]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1128435" timestamp="1322076142"]
I am going to the HJ staff today and attempt to impress upon them that they are not doing enough basketball specific conditioning and that the current, outmoded approach should be abandoned immediately.  There is no telling where Mr. Prudhomme could be right now if he had trained properly.
[/quote]

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeez Nash.....let's not beat a dead horse. How bout agreeing to disagree on "certain" issues........and agreeing that we both love basketball. My previous post was meant as nothing but a huge compliment to HJ....Take it as such and move on.

[CThoops]

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1128618" timestamp="1322093778"]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128435#msg1128435 date=1322076142]
I am going to the HJ staff today and attempt to impress upon them that they are not doing enough basketball specific conditioning and that the current, outmoded approach should be abandoned immediately.  There is no telling where Mr. Prudhomme could be right now if he had trained properly.
[/quote]

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeez Nash.....let's not beat a dead horse. How bout agreeing to disagree on "certain" issues........and agreeing that we both love basketball. My previous post was meant as nothing but a huge compliment to HJ....Take it as such and move on.
[/quote]

He prides himself in talking so much on this forum so can appear to be much more intelligent about sports than anyone else ;)

[stevenash]

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1128618" timestamp="1322093778"]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128435#msg1128435 date=1322076142]
I am going to the HJ staff today and attempt to impress upon them that they are not doing enough basketball specific conditioning and that the current, outmoded approach should be abandoned immediately.  There is no telling where Mr. Prudhomme could be right now if he had trained properly.
[/quote]

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeez Nash.....let's not beat a dead horse. How bout agreeing to disagree on "certain" issues........and agreeing that we both love basketball. My previous post was meant as nothing but a huge compliment to HJ....Take it as such and move on.
[/quote]

Sorry but you misinterpreted.  Thats a joke between the Dove and me.

[stevenash]

[quote name="dogs1218" post="1128678" timestamp="1322097607"]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=92034.msg1128618#msg1128618 date=1322093778]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92034.msg1128435#msg1128435 date=1322076142]
I am going to the HJ staff today and attempt to impress upon them that they are not doing enough basketball specific conditioning and that the current, outmoded approach should be abandoned immediately.  There is no telling where Mr. Prudhomme could be right now if he had trained properly.
[/quote]

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeez Nash.....let's not beat a dead horse. How bout agreeing to disagree on "certain" issues........and agreeing that we both love basketball. My previous post was meant as nothing but a huge compliment to HJ....Take it as such and move on.
[/quote]

He prides himself in talking so much on this forum so can appear to be much more intelligent about sports than anyone else ;)
[/quote]

My sporting knowledge is not much superior or inferior to anyone else on this board.  The difference between you and me is that I am aware of that fact.  As for how much I talk on this forum, you might wish to notice that the Dove posts twice for every time I post.  Does that mean he is trying to appear twice as intelligent as me or five times as intelligent as you?