FRED WILLIAMS CLASSIC update thread/All finals!!!!!

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1131538" timestamp="1322344523"]
Against the better teams, Central is going to need some better outside shooting especially when the defense is not playing man to man.  Smith had his way in the Westbrook game and went to the basket whenever he wanted to.  He faced a different situation Friday afternoon and when that happens, somebody else has to be ready to contribute more.
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[stevenash]

Does the smiley face mean- "spoken like a true Republican"?

[HJ2012]

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[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=92211.msg1129890#msg1129890 date=1322263061]
It's hard to call plays when your lips are sealed shut. No Timouts being called or nothing. We expect a dep playoff run and we're not even competing with a 3a school. I know H-J is good, but geesh, show some fire and urgency. Lets see what we'll do in the second half.
[/quote] A 3-A school. Sorry, but Central should be ashamed!
[/quote]You have to look at the team and not the classification....There's 1A schools out there that can beat a lot of 3A's......but Dove, I cant help but think nash is behind this some how...
[/quote]Put it this way, those Hj players can play with any 4 or 5a school in this area. They are well coached. Those kids stay within the game. i watched all three games and Hj and Silsbee has good sound coaches. Two 3a teams that can compete with any 4a or 5a  team in this area.
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I think Ozen and PAM full throttle will be hard to beat IMO
[/quote]I think PAM is the closest team in this area that can compete with HJ. HJ will win their district.
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No, HJ is terrible this year, like they always have been. They don't have a chance against Silsbee or any team in the area.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1131666" timestamp="1322346213"]
Does the smiley face mean- "spoken like a true Republican"?
[/quote]I'm still in shock from last night. A Black man's worse dream: Another repub walks up and he's Black!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="HJ2012" post="1131670" timestamp="1322346287"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=92211.msg1131044#msg1131044 date=1322326915]
[quote author=ballin4life link=topic=92211.msg1130985#msg1130985 date=1322323949]
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[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=92211.msg1129890#msg1129890 date=1322263061]
It's hard to call plays when your lips are sealed shut. No Timouts being called or nothing. We expect a dep playoff run and we're not even competing with a 3a school. I know H-J is good, but geesh, show some fire and urgency. Lets see what we'll do in the second half.
[/quote] A 3-A school. Sorry, but Central should be ashamed!
[/quote]You have to look at the team and not the classification....There's 1A schools out there that can beat a lot of 3A's......but Dove, I cant help but think nash is behind this some how...
[/quote]Put it this way, those Hj players can play with any 4 or 5a school in this area. They are well coached. Those kids stay within the game. i watched all three games and Hj and Silsbee has good sound coaches. Two 3a teams that can compete with any 4a or 5a  team in this area.
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I think Ozen and PAM full throttle will be hard to beat IMO
[/quote]I think PAM is the closest team in this area that can compete with HJ. HJ will win their district.
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No, HJ is terrible this year, like they always have been. They don't have a chance against Silsbee or any team in the area.
[/quote]HJ, we gotta bring in some major talent to S.E.Texas. HJ getting bigger in the pants, AGAIN!!!

[stevenash]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1131686" timestamp="1322346652"]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92211.msg1131666#msg1131666 date=1322346213]
Does the smiley face mean- "spoken like a true Republican"?
[/quote]I'm still in shock from last night. A Black man's worse dream: Another repub walks up and he's Black!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[/quote]

After you left, he and I had a conference call with Herman Cain.

[stevenash]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1131686" timestamp="1322346652"]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92211.msg1131666#msg1131666 date=1322346213]
Does the smiley face mean- "spoken like a true Republican"?
[/quote]I'm still in shock from last night. A Black man's worse dream: Another repub walks up and he's Black!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[/quote]

A black mans worst dream?  And all of this time I thought you  were Hispanic! But that's what I get for profiling.

[BMTSoulja1]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1131538" timestamp="1322344523"]
Against the better teams, Central is going to need some better outside shooting especially when the defense is not playing man to man.  Smith had his way in the Westbrook game and went to the basket whenever he wanted to.  He faced a different situation Friday afternoon and when that happens, somebody else has to be ready to contribute more.
[/quote]Now, Make no mistake at all, Smith still let all Central scorers and did fairly well.  But just like you said, he was not ablwe to do it at will as in the West Brook game.  That's when we need plays called to get him free or more room to operate.  That's what was not seen last night.  In order for us to beat really good teams like H-J, we will need to get this done...  well, along with way better free throw shooting.

[stevenash]

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1131828" timestamp="1322351118"]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=92211.msg1131538#msg1131538 date=1322344523]
Against the better teams, Central is going to need some better outside shooting especially when the defense is not playing man to man.  Smith had his way in the Westbrook game and went to the basket whenever he wanted to.  He faced a different situation Friday afternoon and when that happens, somebody else has to be ready to contribute more.
[/quote]Now, Make no mistake at all, Smith still let all Central scorers and did fairly well.  But just like you said, he was not ablwe to do it at will as in the West Brook game.  That's when we need plays called to get him free or more room to operate.  That's what was not seen last night.  In order for us to beat really good teams like H-J, we will need to get this done...  well, along with way better free throw shooting.
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It's a long season and the teams that will do best are the ones that will identify and deal with their weaknesses because the better opponents will know them and do their best to exploit them- especially around playoff time-  If Central gets a reputation as a poor outside shooting team, then Smith might find it more difficult to operate.  He will get his points, of course, but the W is what the team wants.  On the other hand, if Central becomes a decent shooting team, Smith is going to have more freedom.  Smith will almost always be your leading scorer but I would bet you a dollar to a doughnut that his shooting percentage in the HJ game was considerably lower than it was against Westbrook.

[Honest Abe]

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[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=92211.msg1129890#msg1129890
date=1322263061]
It's hard to call plays when your lips are sealed shut. No Timouts being called or nothing. We expect a dep playoff run and we're not even competing with a 3a school. I know H-J is good, but geesh, show some fire and urgency. Lets see what we'll do in the second half.
[/quote] A 3-A school. Sorry, but Central should be ashamed!
[/quote]You have to look at the team and not the classification....There's
1A schools out there that can beat a lot of 3A's......but Dove, I cant help but think nash is behind this some how...
[/quote]Put it this way, those Hj players can play with any 4 or 5a school in this area. They are well coached. Those kids stay within the game. i watched all three games and Hj and Silsbee has good sound coaches. Two 3a teams that can compete with any 4a or 5a  team in this area.
[/quote]
I think Ozen and PAM full throttle will be hard to beat IMO
[/quote]I think PAM is the closest team in this area that can compete with HJ. HJ will win their district.
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Not sold on PAM, why are you? Lumberton took them to OT last week. I know it's early, but that can't be very encouraging for them. Unless Lumberton's transfers are that good?

[BLUEDOVE3]

PAM added a few more players with size to the varsity. PAM has quickness too. I'm only saying they may be the best right now to match up against HJ in this area right now.

[Honest Abe]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1132153" timestamp="1322359318"]
PAM added a few more players with size to the varsity. PAM has quickness too. I'm only saying they may be the best right now to match up against HJ in this area right now.
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Gotcha. I would think Silsbee has enough speed and quickness too, no?

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1132280" timestamp="1322361545"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=92211.msg1132153#msg1132153 date=1322359318]
PAM added a few more players with size to the varsity. PAM has quickness too. I'm only saying they may be the best right now to match up against HJ in this area right now.
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Gotcha. I would think Silsbee has enough speed and quickness too, no?
[/quote]Silsbee is the quickest  ;)

[stevenash]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1132415" timestamp="1322364708"]
[quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=92211.msg1132280#msg1132280 date=1322361545]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=92211.msg1132153#msg1132153 date=1322359318]
PAM added a few more players with size to the varsity. PAM has quickness too. I'm only saying they may be the best right now to match up against HJ in this area right now.
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Gotcha. I would think Silsbee has enough speed and quickness too, no?
[/quote]Silsbee is the quickest  ;)
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No doubt about it.  Silsbee is the quickest.

[bmrm]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1132472" timestamp="1322367174"]
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[quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=92211.msg1132280#msg1132280 date=1322361545]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=92211.msg1132153#msg1132153 date=1322359318]
PAM added a few more players with size to the varsity. PAM has quickness too. I'm only saying they may be the best right now to match up against HJ in this area right now.
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Gotcha. I would think Silsbee has enough speed and quickness too, no?
[/quote]Silsbee is the quickest  ;)
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No doubt about it.  Silsbee is the quickest.
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As difficult as it may sounds to hear Silsbee & HJ may be the best teams in the area this year. 

[bmrm]

[quote name="Team Game" post="1129942" timestamp="1322265239"]
Persohn fouled out around 4 min mark.
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Thanks to the awful UIL officials. 

[bmrm]

[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=92211.msg1130582#msg1130582 date=1322276445]
Big Ford, we have a big time player  too. H-J put him in great positions to cause damage...  Our coach wouldn't get up and call a single play.  He rather sit there and look cool.  Not once did he try to argue a call or call a timeout to adjust to H-J's trapping defense.  Just like I've stated before, our overall team talent will be enough for most of the games this year.  We'll probably win didtrict on talent alone.  But at some point, we will need our prime time players to step up.  Tonight, Prudhomme came through in a major way all over the court.  Not saying that Smith from Central didn't, because I know he had a big game and got a few dunks (since some people seem to think this is a new kind of stat even though a dunk, in my book is still 2 points), but we needed him in that run we had in the third period.  We need plays to get him open.  I'll take that loss on the chin to H-J.  They are a good team and they will give their district and most in the state fits.

[bmrm]

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1130582" timestamp="1322276445"]
Big Ford, we have a big time player  too. H-J put him in great positions to cause damage...  Our coach wouldn't get up and call a single play.  He rather sit there and look cool.  Not once did he try to argue a call or call a timeout to adjust to H-J's trapping defense.  Just like I've stated before, our overall team talent will be enough for most of the games this year.  We'll probably win didtrict on talent alone.  But at some point, we will need our prime time players to step up.  Tonight, Prudhomme came through in a major way all over the court.  Not saying that Smith from Central didn't, because I know he had a big game and got a few dunks (since some people seem to think this is a new kind of stat even though a dunk, in my book is still 2 points), but we needed him in that run we had in the third period.  We need plays to get him open.  I'll take that loss on the chin to H-J.  They are a good team and they will give their district and most in the state fits.
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Is that the typical Central's coaches demeanor?  I know our coaches actions tend to be a little more theatrical.   

[12gage]

Ozen
better watch out, the two transfers from HF may now go to hj, no wait they don't live in hj , but they don't live in bmt either!

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="12gage" post="1132680" timestamp="1322401467"]
Ozen
better watch out, the two transfers from HF may now go to hj, no wait they don't live in hj , but they don't live in bmt either!
[/quote]The HF transfers accepted their punishment by UIL rules committee and are fulfilling those obligations with no problems.  ;)

[stevenash]

Dove- are those two young men paired up at the guard positions for the Ozen JV?

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1133086" timestamp="1322433614"]
Dove- are those two young men paired up at the guard positions for the Ozen JV?
[/quote]yep

[stevenash]

Are there ever conflicts after the game regarding who did right and who did wrong?

[The Cook]

[quote name="bmrm" post="1132562" timestamp="1322372178"]
[quote author=Team Game link=topic=92211.msg1129942#msg1129942 date=1322265239]
Persohn fouled out around 4 min mark.
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Thanks to the awful UIL officials.
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The officiating was awful across the board for the Fred Williams Classic. After visiting with him after the games, he sounded a little embarrassed as well. That chapter is losing ground.....FAST!!!!!!

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1133245" timestamp="1322444897"]
Are there ever conflicts after the game regarding who did right and who did wrong?
[/quote]I have to watch them when they [s]fight[/s] play 1v1. During the game, I've noticed there is the tendency to point fingers at each other.