tgreen Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 Congrats to all the players. Personally, I thought hayden reid from lcm should have made first team. He is a bull!
outanup Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 [quote name="vp32" post="1134508" timestamp="1322590233"][quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=92333.msg1134290#msg1134290 date=1322576387]Quirante is a great player, but how can the Defensive MVP not come from the district's best defense? That doesn't make any sense to me. Corbin Carr was the most dominant defensive player that I saw all season. [/quote]Wasn't Carr injured for some of the season?[/quote]No..............
robanadana Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 [quote name="ispeakjive" post="1134290" timestamp="1322576387"]Quirante is a great player, but how can the Defensive MVP not come from the district's best defense? That doesn't make any sense to me. Corbin Carr was the most dominant defensive player that I saw all season. [/quote]Got no problem with that if you make Montana MVP. How are you a leader on both sides of the ball and not MVP? Totally agree with you. Seems to me the voting wasn't done according to the stats or the obvious for that matter. I have no idea what these individuals based the voting on but they didn't get it right. Period.
vhs Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 [quote name="robanadana" post="1134755" timestamp="1322605369"][quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=92333.msg1134290#msg1134290 date=1322576387]Quirante is a great player, but how can the Defensive MVP not come from the district's best defense? That doesn't make any sense to me. Corbin Carr was the most dominant defensive player that I saw all season. [/quote]Got no problem with that if you make Montana MVP. How are you a leader on both sides of the ball and not MVP? Totally agree with you. Seems to me the voting wasn't done according to the stats or the obvious for that matter. I have no idea what these individuals based the voting on but they didn't get it right. Period.[/quote]The coaches make these selections, I'm sure there was healthy discussion among them before voting. Congrats to all the selections, they all deserve the honor.
Bulldog8 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name="football04" post="1134012" timestamp="1322529078"][quote author=BigDog007 link=topic=92333.msg1133769#msg1133769 date=1322512798]Congrads to all these young men making the teams, this is why SETX has such a rich tradition in football. If my addition is correct and my eyes worked right here is the school totals.Nederland 18Ozen 15Vidor 12PNG 10Livingston 8LCM 7Lumberton 6Central 4I appologise if i missed anything but, what a outstanding showing from all our district.[/quote] I'm happy for the kids that made the all district team, but 80 players making all district, that's 10 players per team in an 8 team league, so half the league is all district ? It just doesn't mean what it use to.[/quote]agree. we live in a world of entitlement.... everyone needs to be recognized
invictus Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name="robanadana" post="1134755" timestamp="1322605369"][quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=92333.msg1134290#msg1134290 date=1322576387]Quirante is a great player, but how can the Defensive MVP not come from the district's best defense? That doesn't make any sense to me. Corbin Carr was the most dominant defensive player that I saw all season. [/quote]Got no problem with that if you make Montana MVP. How are you a leader on both sides of the ball and not MVP? Totally agree with you. Seems to me the voting wasn't done according to the stats or the obvious for that matter. I have no idea what these individuals based the voting on but they didn't get it right. Period.[/quote]Exactly! They did not get it right. Period. If a player dominates on both sides of the ball, they are the MVP. Period. The voting is biased and wrong. If the coaches voted, they voted wrong.
vhs Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 Copied from Enterprise Article: "Here is the 20-4A All-District football team, [b]as voted on by coaches[/b].District 20-4A All-District Football Team"I'll take the opinions of the coaches who live this game on a daily basis over a bunch of Monday Morning Quarterbacks (myself included) anyday... Congrats to all the selections.
lionbaseball Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 How about Mays at 1st team FB? He played 2 district games. Don't get me wrong, if the young man were healthy he would have been district MVP, but he missed the final 5 games for Livingston (and they went 1-4 in those games!!!).[/quote] Livingston was undefeated untill the Nederland game?
lionbaseball Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name="lionbaseball" post="1135062" timestamp="1322623334"]How about Mays at 1st team FB? He played 2 district games. Don't get me wrong, if the young man were healthy he would have been district MVP, but he missed the final 5 games for Livingston (and they went 1-4 in those games!!!).[/quote] Livingston was undefeated untill the Nederland game?[/quote]oh nevermind got it but they were 2-3 give us credit hahaha
surfer73 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name="invictus" post="1134991" timestamp="1322620627"][quote author=robanadana link=topic=92333.msg1134755#msg1134755 date=1322605369][quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=92333.msg1134290#msg1134290 date=1322576387]Quirante is a great player, but how can the Defensive MVP not come from the district's best defense? That doesn't make any sense to me. Corbin Carr was the most dominant defensive player that I saw all season. [/quote]Got no problem with that if you make Montana MVP. How are you a leader on both sides of the ball and not MVP? Totally agree with you. Seems to me the voting wasn't done according to the stats or the obvious for that matter. I have no idea what these individuals based the voting on but they didn't get it right. Period.[/quote]Exactly! They did not get it right. Period. If a player dominates on both sides of the ball, they are the MVP. Period. The voting is biased and wrong. If the coaches voted, they voted wrong. [/quote]And if Montana played for another school none of you would be on here crying about it!
uandme08 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name="invictus" post="1134991" timestamp="1322620627"][quote author=robanadana link=topic=92333.msg1134755#msg1134755 date=1322605369][quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=92333.msg1134290#msg1134290 date=1322576387]Quirante is a great player, but how can the Defensive MVP not come from the district's best defense? That doesn't make any sense to me. Corbin Carr was the most dominant defensive player that I saw all season. [/quote]Got no problem with that if you make Montana MVP. How are you a leader on both sides of the ball and not MVP? Totally agree with you. Seems to me the voting wasn't done according to the stats or the obvious for that matter. I have no idea what these individuals based the voting on but they didn't get it right. Period.[/quote]Exactly! They did not get it right. Period. If a player dominates on both sides of the ball, they are the MVP. Period. The voting is biased and wrong. If the coaches voted, they voted wrong. [/quote]Again these are your opinions just as well as the coaches had their opinions. Continuing to go on and on about it won't change the coaches opinions nor will it change the outcome. GET OVER IT! I'm sure none of these kids are so concerned about it as the adults are. I could honestly see if there was a full ride scholarship or something to that affect tagged along with the nominations but all it is is a picture in the newspaper and something else for the adults to argue about. All of these kids had a great season and I don't think that it takes a coach's vote to tell them that. Some people on this site go to sleep bitter, wake up bitter and be bitter all day long. I won't slight any kid because of my opinion. Congratulations again to the kids on a job well done.
PNG Proud Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name="oldschool59" post="1134006" timestamp="1322528587"]Where is the Kimler kid from Nederland? I was only able to make it to 2 games this year but [b]thought he was the better looking WR out of the bunch.[/b] IMO[/quote]Are you really serious? Have you even GLANCED at the numbers at all???
ispeakjive Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name="robanadana" post="1134755" timestamp="1322605369"][quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=92333.msg1134290#msg1134290 date=1322576387]Quirante is a great player, but how can the Defensive MVP not come from the district's best defense? That doesn't make any sense to me. Corbin Carr was the most dominant defensive player that I saw all season. [/quote]Got no problem with that if you make Montana MVP. How are you a leader on both sides of the ball and not MVP? Totally agree with you. Seems to me the voting wasn't done according to the stats or the obvious for that matter. I have no idea what these individuals based the voting on but they didn't get it right. Period.[/quote]I would probably agree with you on that. Quirante was the straw that stirred the drink for the Pirates this year.
Enjun07 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name="PNG Proud" post="1135330" timestamp="1322661806"][quote author=oldschool59 link=topic=92333.msg1134006#msg1134006 date=1322528587]Where is the Kimler kid from Nederland? I was only able to make it to 2 games this year but [b]thought he was the better looking WR out of the bunch.[/b] IMO[/quote]im gunna give him the benefit of the doubt...that hes not including jayce on that comment lolAre you really serious? Have you even GLANCED at the numbers at all???[/quote]
baddog Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 We could have every player from every team make all-district and we would still squabble over which team they should have made.None of the picks were politically motivated. They were picked for who they thought was best. Maybe no one should make all-district.If a player's name is even mentioned among the great players we had in 20-4A this year, they should be proud indeed. What a great district we have!
BMTSoulja1 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 Congrads on the all district selections. Even thoug my Jags only produced 4 players, I'm very proud to say that I've gotten a chance to see all of our area young men mix it up. Also, all this bickering over who should have been in the selection is bull. I have no problems with the selections. You can never go wrong with the MVP, OMVP, or DMVP. Those guys put in work and now are being commended for it. Good luck at the next level/next year.
NHS83LU87 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name="football04" post="1134012" timestamp="1322529078"][quote author=BigDog007 link=topic=92333.msg1133769#msg1133769 date=1322512798]Congrads to all these young men making the teams, this is why SETX has such a rich tradition in football. If my addition is correct and my eyes worked right here is the school totals.Nederland 18Ozen 15Vidor 12PNG 10Livingston 8LCM 7Lumberton 6Central 4I appologise if i missed anything but, what a outstanding showing from all our district.[/quote] I'm happy for the kids that made the all district team, but 80 players making all district, that's 10 players per team in an 8 team league, so half the league is all district ? It just doesn't mean what it use to.[/quote]I am not really surprised by the number. At Nederland's end of the year sports awards football hands out what seems to be about ten awards and of course the male athlete of the year is always going to come from the football team. All other sports hand out one award for their sport. It may be because there are more players on football but then again the JV get's letter jackets for practicing when Nederland makes the playoffs. I am assuming most of the AD/Football Coaches put the emphasis and special treatment on the football team. All District has been watered down for years but it is still a way to honor players who work hard.
robanadana Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name="uandme08" post="1135327" timestamp="1322661660"][quote author=invictus link=topic=92333.msg1134991#msg1134991 date=1322620627][quote author=robanadana link=topic=92333.msg1134755#msg1134755 date=1322605369][quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=92333.msg1134290#msg1134290 date=1322576387]Quirante is a great player, but how can the Defensive MVP not come from the district's best defense? That doesn't make any sense to me. Corbin Carr was the most dominant defensive player that I saw all season. [/quote]Got no problem with that if you make Montana MVP. How are you a leader on both sides of the ball and not MVP? Totally agree with you. Seems to me the voting wasn't done according to the stats or the obvious for that matter. I have no idea what these individuals based the voting on but they didn't get it right. Period.[/quote]Exactly! They did not get it right. Period. If a player dominates on both sides of the ball, they are the MVP. Period. The voting is biased and wrong. If the coaches voted, they voted wrong. [/quote]Again these are your opinions just as well as the coaches had their opinions. Continuing to go on and on about it won't change the coaches opinions nor will it change the outcome. GET OVER IT! I'm sure none of these kids are so concerned about it as the adults are. I could honestly see if there was a full ride scholarship or something to that affect tagged along with the nominations but all it is is a picture in the newspaper and something else for the adults to argue about. All of these kids had a great season and I don't think that it takes a coach's vote to tell them that. Some people on this site go to sleep bitter, wake up bitter and be bitter all day long. I won't slight any kid because of my opinion. Congratulations again to the kids on a job well done.[/quote]I'm not bitter about anything sir, just stating the obvious. Don't have a dog in the fight.
mytwocents-28 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name="Enjun07" post="1135609" timestamp="1322680866"]no debate on the offensive mvp? lol[/quote]I was just thinking the same thing. IMO it should've gone to Chase Bertand or Montana Quirante. Those were the leading scorers in the district. Jayce wasn't even in the top 5.
Enjun07 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name="vp32" post="1135693" timestamp="1322687641"][quote author=Enjun07 link=topic=92333.msg1135609#msg1135609 date=1322680866]no debate on the offensive mvp? lol[/quote]I was just thinking the same thing. IMO it should've gone to Chase Bertand or Montana Quirante. Those were the leading scorers in the district. Jayce wasn't even in the top 5.[/quote]but he was one of the most feared if not most feared player in the district...and had the most recieving yards by a long shot...was double and triple covered this year and still had a 1000 yards recieving...i think they got that one right
NDNation Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name="Enjun07" post="1135709" timestamp="1322688443"][quote author=vp32 link=topic=92333.msg1135693#msg1135693 date=1322687641][quote author=Enjun07 link=topic=92333.msg1135609#msg1135609 date=1322680866]no debate on the offensive mvp? lol[/quote]I was just thinking the same thing. IMO it should've gone to Chase Bertand or Montana Quirante. Those were the leading scorers in the district. Jayce wasn't even in the top 5.[/quote]but he was one of the most feared if not most feared player in the district...and had the most recieving yards by a long shot...was double and triple covered this year and still had a 1000 yards recieving...i think they got that one right[/quote]Enjun you set that up!
Enjun07 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name="NDNation" post="1135714" timestamp="1322688673"][quote author=Enjun07 link=topic=92333.msg1135709#msg1135709 date=1322688443][quote author=vp32 link=topic=92333.msg1135693#msg1135693 date=1322687641][quote author=Enjun07 link=topic=92333.msg1135609#msg1135609 date=1322680866]no debate on the offensive mvp? lol[/quote]I was just thinking the same thing. IMO it should've gone to Chase Bertand or Montana Quirante. Those were the leading scorers in the district. Jayce wasn't even in the top 5.[/quote]but he was one of the most feared if not most feared player in the district...and had the most recieving yards by a long shot...was double and triple covered this year and still had a 1000 yards recieving...i think they got that one right[/quote]Enjun you set that up![/quote]lol im up for debate..i like to hear ppls opinions about players...ill go ahead and say i dont think quirante should of gotten MVP..hes a great player but not the MVP of the district..im in favor of jones as the MVP
dustoff03 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 [quote name="Enjun07" post="1135709" timestamp="1322688443"][quote author=vp32 link=topic=92333.msg1135693#msg1135693 date=1322687641][quote author=Enjun07 link=topic=92333.msg1135609#msg1135609 date=1322680866]no debate on the offensive mvp? lol[/quote]I was just thinking the same thing. IMO it should've gone to Chase Bertand or Montana Quirante. Those were the leading scorers in the district. Jayce wasn't even in the top 5.[/quote]but he was one of the most feared if not most feared player in the district...and had the most recieving yards by a long shot...was double and triple covered this year and still had a 1000 yards recieving...i think they got that one right[/quote]Gotta agree! The kid snatched the ball out of the air when you thought forsure it was gonna be a lawn dart. Hard to get those numbers in triple coverage unless your just an mvp caliber player.But, I've always been partial to recievers.lol
Enjun07 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 i just wanted to see why that was the only category being debated
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