AggiesAreWe Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/sports/lamar/article/New-Lamar-coaching-contracts-include-incentives-2335308.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 attendance bonus----Ray needs to fill up 93% of Cardinal stadium, Knight just needs a 1/3 of the montagne.think Knight got the better end of that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverADog Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Well you can also twist the numbers to look like this. Ray only had to maintain or have attendance drop by 1000 from last year but Pat has to raise attendance 1000 from last year. Ray got the better end of that deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 [quote name="ForeverADog" post="1136176" timestamp="1322750219"]Well you can also twist the numbers to look like this. Ray only had to maintain or have attendance drop by 1000 from last year but Pat has to raise attendance 1000 from last year. Ray got the better end of that deal![/quote]hawhich one would you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverADog Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 In this city, football for sure. But I also think all 3 coaches shouldn't have to big of a problem getting to their incentives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 interesting..I'd take basketball..because [u]OF[/u] this city -- i think football will plateau around 12k/gamei wonder how many times in the history of football/basketball...these attendance numbers have been hit?another thing..say you bring in a big draw...sell out both of em to average into the attendance...heck of a boost to bball over football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthoftheBorder Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 When you win championships and playoff games, attendance takes care of itself. If Woodard gets caught up in promotions on attendance to earn that bonus, then the focus is completely wrong. If he stops "good ole boying" the way he runs the program, he may have the kind of success that LU supporters desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverADog Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Sad but the Montagne has never been sold out for a Lamar mens basketball game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beechnut Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 [quote name="NorthoftheBorder" post="1136280" timestamp="1322756573"]When you win championships and playoff games, attendance takes care of itself. If Woodard gets caught up in promotions on attendance to earn that bonus, then the focus is completely wrong. If he stops "good ole boying" the way he runs the program, he may have the kind of success that LU supporters desire.[/quote]So let me get this. Coach W would play the "good ole boying" in spite of wins? All the coaches especially know in college put the best kids on the field. To many arm chair wanta be coaches here that know nothing. 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 58SHW Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 [quote name="beechnut" post="1136542" timestamp="1322768210"][quote author=NorthoftheBorder link=topic=92517.msg1136280#msg1136280 date=1322756573]When you win championships and playoff games, attendance takes care of itself. If Woodard gets caught up in promotions on attendance to earn that bonus, then the focus is completely wrong. If he stops "good ole boying" the way he runs the program, he may have the kind of success that LU supporters desire.[/quote]So let me get this. Coach W would play the "good ole boying" in spite of wins? All the coaches especially know in college put the best kids on the field. To many arm chair wanta be coaches here that know nothing. 8)[/quote]yet somehow by you saying the opposite, means you DO know? OR does it mean you're just another arm chair wanta be coach that has a different opinion?Those are questions by the way, in no way do they reflect my opinion or intended to make a statement in favor of or against the current coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ25 Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Basketball will win 2 conference championships at [b]least[/b] before football wins their first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LamarTech Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Pat Knight will sell out the first men's basketball game in the Montagne because his teams will be good AND he'll offer the Golden Triangle fan base real opponents to see play...NOT more of Louisiana College and the like. Notwithstanding the fact LU outdraws all other SLC schools (I think) in basketball, its been 25 years since going to watch LU basketball was really cool. I think LU basketball is about to become "cool" again! And don't forget the value of winning...if I recall correctly, there actually was a sold out Montagne for a women's game when they had the big NCAA run before the program fell apart due to scandal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDOSullivan Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name="AJ25" post="1136937" timestamp="1322797630"]Basketball will win 2 conference championships at [b]least[/b] before football wins their first.[/quote]I believe this too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverADog Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 To answer your question LamarTech, that game almost sold out but did not. Montagne hasn't been sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 [quote name="ForeverADog" post="1139017" timestamp="1322954719"]To answer your question LamarTech, that game almost sold out but did not. Montagne hasn't been sold out.[/quote]who was that? lady cards v lsu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 hmmmm...i typed in "largest crowd montagne center"..got zz top and a preacherwhat are the largest crowds for m/w basketball...i know football is v BaylorI'm gonna guess mens v tcu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachacola Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 [quote name="puddin tane" post="1139076" timestamp="1322958285"]hmmmm...i typed in "largest crowd montagne center"..got zz top and a preacherwhat are the largest crowds for m/w basketball...i know football is v BaylorI'm gonna guess mens v tcu?[/quote]The Lamar Basketball Media Guide has this info. Top 10 crowds:10,010 vs McNeese 1/10/87 (Joe Dumars was on their team)9,467 vs McNeese 2/27/869,432 vs LSU 12/16/858,992 vs Arkansas State 1/24/878,610 vs Houston 3/15/858,454 vs Texas 12/27/958,338 vs Northwestern State 2/23/088,317 vs La Tech 1/26/858,254 vs Chattanooga 3/20/858,216 vs Villanova 11/26/85Also, since the Montagne Center opened, only once have they averaged less than 2000 per year, back in 1989-1990. 3K to 4K per year is the norm.Link: http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/06bdbb68#/06bdbb68/6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ25 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 One norm about all those: All over 10 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachacola Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 [quote name="AJ25" post="1139236" timestamp="1322969079"]One norm about all those: All over 10 years ago.[/quote]Not the Northwestern State game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 [quote name="coachacola" post="1139095" timestamp="1322959872"][quote author=puddin tane link=topic=92517.msg1139076#msg1139076 date=1322958285]hmmmm...i typed in "largest crowd montagne center"..got zz top and a preacherwhat are the largest crowds for m/w basketball...i know football is v BaylorI'm gonna guess mens v tcu?[/quote]The Lamar Basketball Media Guide has this info. Top 10 crowds:10,010 vs McNeese 1/10/87 (Joe Dumars was on their team)9,467 vs McNeese 2/27/869,432 vs LSU 12/16/858,992 vs Arkansas State 1/24/878,610 vs Houston 3/15/858,454 vs Texas 12/27/958,338 vs Northwestern State 2/23/088,317 vs La Tech 1/26/858,254 vs Chattanooga 3/20/858,216 vs Villanova 11/26/85Also, since the Montagne Center opened, only once have they averaged less than 2000 per year, back in 1989-1990. 3K to 4K per year is the norm.Link: http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/06bdbb68#/06bdbb68/6[/quote]dang..I remember going to a TCU- LU game that had a big crowd...they had a preppy pretty boy shooting guardmaybe i'm getting my games mixed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LamarTech Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 The Villanova game was the grand opening for the Montagne Center. I was there. Now lets use that as a conversational benchmark. Our 10th biggest crowd, right? So now tell me which SLC school's biggest crowd EVER topped that? I'm thinking NONE (...please prove me wrong). Now...if so, and with the right coach...why can't we get back to that?... (other than TEXAS in the '90s all the other top 10 crowds were in the 80's...and the TEXAS game sucked because we had all the local tea-sippers in the area showing up in their burnt orange...ugh). I think we can...I'm with Coach Knight and our impressive class of athletic seniors who are now actually being taught the value of playing defense! He says we can be the new GONZAGA! Why not? So let's help him. I will be driving over from Houston to all the home SLC games that my job will allow so that I can contribute to the crowd totals. I'm excited as an old time supporter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 whew..another flashback..did a fan make a half-court shot at halftime of the chattanooga game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverADog Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Chatanooga? When did we play them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texantagonise Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name="ForeverADog" post="1142095" timestamp="1323361525"]Chatanooga? When did we play them?[/quote]Lamar had an NIT game at the Montagne. I don't remember much except that LU lost in OT I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverADog Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Oh way before my time ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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