HJ vs Silsbee who wins

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[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=94090.msg1161455#msg1161455 date=1326817414]
Thankfully (for some area schools) there is no high schooL RPI ranking. ;)

Hey wait a minute, Even Nash could appreciate this small business opportunity. We could make a killing ranking those schools in their non-district strength schedule rankings.

Our business venture would even give credit to those teams who lose a bunch of its games.  But still get credit for playing against good teams. And an extra credit if lost at home.
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Dove- Perhaps you can enlighten me on this.  From your perspective, Silsbee played a far tougher schedule which makes them much better prepared to play the good teams.  HJ has played nobody and, as a result, their record doesnt mean much.  And yet, in the HJ-Silsbee game on Silsbees HOME COURT, with Silsbee shooting 35% as a TEAM from 3 point range, and the Hawks shooting 35% from the charity stripe, it takes a last second buzzer beater for Silsbee to win.  If your contention is true about schedules, you are either going to have to admit that HJ schedule does NOT mean they are not a top notch team OR that Silsbee isn't that good because, by virtue of the HJ schedule, they barely escaped an average team.
[/quote]Not at all. Syracuse's coach by his own admission played a weak schedule and they are #1.

But from what I heard Silsbee had an 18 point lead at one time. Probably due to their tougher schedule, it sounds like they were man-handling HJ at one time. Probably due to their tough mental state of mind from a tough schedule. I can only assume that Silsbee let up off the gas after 18 points and allowed HJ back in the game. But thats how basketball bounces sometimes ;)

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[quote author=stevenash link=topic=94090.msg1161461#msg1161461 date=1326818239]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=94090.msg1161455#msg1161455 date=1326817414]
Thankfully (for some area schools) there is no high schooL RPI ranking. ;)

Hey wait a minute, Even Nash could appreciate this small business opportunity. We could make a killing ranking those schools in their non-district strength schedule rankings.

Our business venture would even give credit to those teams who lose a bunch of its games.  But still get credit for playing against good teams. And an extra credit if lost at home.
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Dove- Perhaps you can enlighten me on this.  From your perspective, Silsbee played a far tougher schedule which makes them much better prepared to play the good teams.  HJ has played nobody and, as a result, their record doesnt mean much.  And yet, in the HJ-Silsbee game on Silsbees HOME COURT, with Silsbee shooting 35% as a TEAM from 3 point range, and the Hawks shooting 35% from the charity stripe, it takes a last second buzzer beater for Silsbee to win.  If your contention is true about schedules, you are either going to have to admit that HJ schedule does NOT mean they are not a top notch team OR that Silsbee isn't that good because, by virtue of the HJ schedule, they barely escaped an average team.
[/quote]Not at all. Syracuse's coach by his own admission played a weak schedule and they are #1.

But from what I heard Silsbee had an 18 point lead at one time. Probably due to their tougher schedule, it sounds like they were man-handling HJ at one time. Probably due to their tough mental state of mind from a tough schedule. I can only assume that Silsbee let up off the gas after 18 points and allowed HJ back in the game. But thats how basketball bounces sometimes ;)

Hmmmm- How convenient- Silsbee was responsible for their big run but the one HJ put together to come back was not a credit to HJ?  If that tough mental state is what got the job done, why was that mental toughness not there when they got down 27-14?  Why was it not there when they gave up an 18 point lead.  If you are correct about this "superior mental toughness" is it safe to say that they will have an even easier victory at HJ as they are bound to be "sky high" going into the game while the HJ squad has had their "bubble busted"?  While I did not get the official numbers, it looks to me, from a scorecard standpoint, that "that mental toughness" was present only for 1 quarter out of 4.  I know how good and appealing all of that blarney sounds, but there are no facts to support/prove it.  Did Florida States blowout of North Carolina come from that "mental edge/ superior schedule" or did Florida State simply pull an ace from the deck while NC pulled a deuce?  Wanna bet on the odds of that ACE DEUCE repeating itself?
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[quote name="stevenash" post="1161555" timestamp="1326827126"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=94090.msg1161547#msg1161547 date=1326826522]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=94090.msg1161461#msg1161461 date=1326818239]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=94090.msg1161455#msg1161455 date=1326817414]
Thankfully (for some area schools) there is no high schooL RPI ranking. ;)

Hey wait a minute, Even Nash could appreciate this small business opportunity. We could make a killing ranking those schools in their non-district strength schedule rankings.

Our business venture would even give credit to those teams who lose a bunch of its games.  But still get credit for playing against good teams. And an extra credit if lost at home.
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Dove- Perhaps you can enlighten me on this.  From your perspective, Silsbee played a far tougher schedule which makes them much better prepared to play the good teams.  HJ has played nobody and, as a result, their record doesnt mean much.  And yet, in the HJ-Silsbee game on Silsbees HOME COURT, with Silsbee shooting 35% as a TEAM from 3 point range, and the Hawks shooting 35% from the charity stripe, it takes a last second buzzer beater for Silsbee to win.  If your contention is true about schedules, you are either going to have to admit that HJ schedule does NOT mean they are not a top notch team OR that Silsbee isn't that good because, by virtue of the HJ schedule, they barely escaped an average team.
[/quote]Not at all. Syracuse's coach by his own admission played a weak schedule and they are #1.

But from what I heard Silsbee had an 18 point lead at one time. Probably due to their tougher schedule, it sounds like they were man-handling HJ at one time. Probably due to their tough mental state of mind from a tough schedule. I can only assume that Silsbee let up off the gas after 18 points and allowed HJ back in the game. But thats how basketball bounces sometimes ;)

Hmmmm- How convenient- Silsbee was responsible for their big run but the one HJ put together to come back was not a credit to HJ?  If that tough mental state is what got the job done, why was that mental toughness not there when they got down 27-14?  Why was it not there when they gave up an 18 point lead.  If you are correct about this "superior mental toughness" is it safe to say that they will have an even easier victory at HJ as they are bound to be "sky high" going into the game while the HJ squad has had their "bubble busted"?  While I did not get the official numbers, it looks to me, from a scorecard standpoint, that "that mental toughness" was present only for 1 quarter out of 4.  I know how good and appealing all of that blarney sounds, but there are no facts to support/prove it.  Did Florida States blowout of North Carolina come from that "mental edge/ superior schedule" or did Florida State simply pull an ace from the deck while NC pulled a deuce?  Wanna bet on the odds of that ACE DEUCE repeating itself?
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[/quote]Can it happen a second time? YES!!!!!

[stevenash]

It "can".  But you "can" die of a heart attack before you go home today also.  Would you care to put some of your hard earned dollars behind that suggestion?

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Since I am an avid poker player and consider poker a "skill" game, Nash I'll just assume your analogy regarding the ace and deuce is not considered the "luck of the draw". ;)

But you know, your comments of late sure look as though you think that win was a lucky one. ;) ;D

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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1161567" timestamp="1326827603"]
Since I am an avid poker player and consider poker a "skill" game, Nash I'll just assume your analogy regarding the ace and deuce is not considered the "luck of the draw". ;)

But you know, your comments of late sure look as though you think that win was a lucky one. ;) ;D
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Yes, I understand poker is a skill game but there also is some good fortune involved whether you wish to acknowledge or not.  I wouldnt say I could call the Silsbee victory a lucky one, but I think I can say that the[b] combination[/b] of HJ shooting 35% from the free throw line, Silsbee shooting 35% as a TEAM from three point range, and the last second shot was most definitely an ACE and not likely repeatable.  If I am wrong, my theory will soon be disproven when they play at HJ.  Yes, I understand you would like me to say the games outcome  was lucky  thus enabling you to declare "sour grapes".  However, if you check some of my other posts, there is nothing in them that would lead an unbiased reader with no relationship to either community to come to that conclusion.  Am I disappointed that HJ lost?  No doubt about it.  Is there  anything I can do about it?  Obviously not.  Do I think they will win the rematch? Yes (but, of course, I thought they would win the first one also)  I played poker as a young man (didnt know much about it) but played in a group that had three very smart players and another average player who had lots of resources and his approach was to simply stay in every hand.  He did pretty well with that approach.

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[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=94090.msg1161567#msg1161567 date=1326827603]
Since I am an avid poker player and consider poker a "skill" game, Nash I'll just assume your analogy regarding the ace and deuce is not considered the "luck of the draw". ;)

But you know, your comments of late sure look as though you think that win was a lucky one. ;) ;D
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Yes, I understand poker is a skill game but there also is some good fortune involved whether you wish to acknowledge or not.  I wouldnt say I could call the Silsbee victory a lucky one, but I think I can say that the[b] combination[/b] of HJ shooting 35% from the free throw line, Silsbee shooting 35% as a TEAM from three point range, and the last second shot was most definitely an ACE and not likely repeatable.  If I am wrong, my theory will soon be disproven when they play at HJ.  Yes, I understand you would like me to say the games outcome  was lucky  thus enabling you to declare "sour grapes".  However, if you check some of my other posts, there is nothing in them that would lead an unbiased reader with no relationship to either community to come to that conclusion.  Am I disappointed that HJ lost?  No doubt about it.  Is there  anything I can do about it?  Obviously not.  Do I think they will win the rematch? Yes (but, of course, I thought they would win the first one also)  I played poker as a young man (didnt know much about it) but played in a group that had three very smart players and another average player who had lots of resources and his approach was to simply stay in every hand.  He did pretty well with that approach.
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