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[quote name="TITANS2011" post="1166207" timestamp="1327589150"]
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[color=red]They went from not knowing anything to knowing a lot.........[/color][/quote]

Its not about knowing anything to knowing a lot..............all this happend before STJFL TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES TO LET PA GO. Its not about know it all...its about them giving a reason to why! Once it was said that STJFL WANTED CERTAIN PEOPLE OUT, there was no reason to that either......STOP READING TO HARD AT WHAT IS BEING TYPED!
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Its all about what you know because thats how all this mess got started when you said nobody told you nothing. Then your president got on here and said he didnt know nothing either. I put what I had heard about PA board members and all the sudden you know everything the is to know about the situation with 2 people being told to leave.  You the one that said it so nobody reading too deep!. STJFL has that right to do what they want because your in they world and you was new. Yall broke they rules then blame them for not reading it to you. The rules is right there for the world to see I just went and looked at it! Its not STJFL fault you didnt go read the rules before you got started. They dont owe you nothing.... when they say get rid of so and so or yall be gone you got a choice to do what they say or find a new yard to play at. Yall made a choice and now yall blame everybody else and make it about everything but what it is.... All about race or somebody afraid of your talent when yall know that not true. Just because you dont agree with STJFL dont make you a victim. [color=red]If you dont like it go cry with them kids you sent home after they did a week of practice[/color] because I KNOW they didnt deserve what they got! Then you come on here and say its all about the kids. Last thing I got is yall come on here saying people dont need to hide behind usernames then you come on here and call people out by they real name because you think they owe you something.... you a class act! If this the way yall acted all year its no wonder you gone.
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Your right about them "NOT OWING US NOTHING!" Its about the right things to do! I guess your word is better than everyone elses. I guess your on the board to know that KIDS WERE SENT HOME AFTER A WEEK OF PRACTICE...........casue I'm sure that wasn't made public or posted on any website! Just like how PA was punished by NOT BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PLAYOFFS and a Nederland Parent stated that our games don't matter AT A GAME. I guess that punishment was posted on a website too! OPEN INFORMATION! Yeah right! Its all about STJFL didn't want PA in their league in the 1st place! The had not reason to not let us in and any reason to put us out!

ALL THIS WAs DONE SO THAT STJFL CAN SAY....WE GAVE THEM A CHANCE!

I AM JUST GOING TO BE HONEST....PA DIDN'T DESERVE TO GET PUT OUT....[b][color=red]AND FOR THIS I HOPE STJFL LOSES EVERYTHING THEY HAVE EVER ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!!!!!![/color][/b]SORRY FOR THE KIDS...MAYBE THEY CAN GO TO A BETTER LEAGUE WHICH TEACHES THEM MORE ABOUT WHATS RIGHT AND FAIR, THAN WHATS EASY TO DO!!!!!!!!
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My words no better than everyone else but I talk the truth and the truth is easy cause you dont have to defend youself with big red sentences! I got all that story from a parent of 1 of the kids yall cut. She said the coach got all the kids all together at the end of practice on friday and picked out kids to turn in they stuff because they not on the team anymore. Kids was crying cause they dont know what they done wrong and whats worse is the PA president was there when they was cut in front of everybody so he knew. Parents told STJFL and that how yall got in trouble for stacking Yall was already in trouble when yall got who yall wanted off the bees and cowboys and told everybody else yall was full when the rules say you open till july. You crazy if yall do stuff like that and think it wont hit the street! STJFL had enough to put PA out right then but let PA finish the year out so it look like they more about kids then yall was. Yall out because 2 of the PA board acted like fools all year and made problems.... I dont know exactly what they did but I bet money you was one of the ones they wanted gone.
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I agree rules are rules and  you must play by the rules................. when a rule is broken a judgment made..
example,
2 people are pulled over for speeding by the same officer but only 1 person gets a ticket for speeding.Wrong or right it always lies on the judge or who's judging .....
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[quote name="Coach Ned Little Titans" post="1165482" timestamp="1327461033"]
What problems did we cause? I want specifics not hear say. This can come from anyone. Please have only Truth!!!!!  And no i'm not a board member so it's not me, so no cheat shot.
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My turn.
1)nederland quit in the middle of a game and refuse to shake our kids hand.
2)nederland had a coach run on the field and scream at our flag kids.
3)png had kids calling our kids the [color=red]N word.[/color] Mark is aware all where reported
I wonder what happen to them



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[quote name="jrmdvs536" post="1166299" timestamp="1327597690"]
[quote author=TITANS2011 link=topic=94298.msg1166207#msg1166207 date=1327589150]
[quote author=jrmdvs536 link=topic=94298.msg1165852#msg1165852 date=1327518260]
[quote author=TITANS2011 link=topic=94298.msg1165755#msg1165755 date=1327506978]
[quote author=thetragichippy link=topic=94298.msg1164794#msg1164794 date=1327356543]
[color=red]They went from not knowing anything to knowing a lot.........[/color][/quote]

Its not about knowing anything to knowing a lot..............all this happend before STJFL TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES TO LET PA GO. Its not about know it all...its about them giving a reason to why! Once it was said that STJFL WANTED CERTAIN PEOPLE OUT, there was no reason to that either......STOP READING TO HARD AT WHAT IS BEING TYPED!
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Its all about what you know because thats how all this mess got started when you said nobody told you nothing. Then your president got on here and said he didnt know nothing either. I put what I had heard about PA board members and all the sudden you know everything the is to know about the situation with 2 people being told to leave.  You the one that said it so nobody reading too deep!. STJFL has that right to do what they want because your in they world and you was new. Yall broke they rules then blame them for not reading it to you. The rules is right there for the world to see I just went and looked at it! Its not STJFL fault you didnt go read the rules before you got started. They dont owe you nothing.... when they say get rid of so and so or yall be gone you got a choice to do what they say or find a new yard to play at. Yall made a choice and now yall blame everybody else and make it about everything but what it is.... All about race or somebody afraid of your talent when yall know that not true. Just because you dont agree with STJFL dont make you a victim. [color=red]If you dont like it go cry with them kids you sent home after they did a week of practice[/color] because I KNOW they didnt deserve what they got! Then you come on here and say its all about the kids. Last thing I got is yall come on here saying people dont need to hide behind usernames then you come on here and call people out by they real name because you think they owe you something.... you a class act! If this the way yall acted all year its no wonder you gone.
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Your right about them "NOT OWING US NOTHING!" Its about the right things to do! I guess your word is better than everyone elses. I guess your on the board to know that KIDS WERE SENT HOME AFTER A WEEK OF PRACTICE...........casue I'm sure that wasn't made public or posted on any website! Just like how PA was punished by NOT BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PLAYOFFS and a Nederland Parent stated that our games don't matter AT A GAME. I guess that punishment was posted on a website too! OPEN INFORMATION! Yeah right! Its all about STJFL didn't want PA in their league in the 1st place! The had not reason to not let us in and any reason to put us out!

ALL THIS WAs DONE SO THAT STJFL CAN SAY....WE GAVE THEM A CHANCE!

I AM JUST GOING TO BE HONEST....PA DIDN'T DESERVE TO GET PUT OUT....[b][color=red]AND FOR THIS I HOPE STJFL LOSES EVERYTHING THEY HAVE EVER ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!!!!!![/color][/b]SORRY FOR THE KIDS...MAYBE THEY CAN GO TO A BETTER LEAGUE WHICH TEACHES THEM MORE ABOUT WHATS RIGHT AND FAIR, THAN WHATS EASY TO DO!!!!!!!!
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My words no better than everyone else but I talk the truth and the truth is easy cause you dont have to defend youself with big red sentences! I got all that story from a parent of 1 of the kids yall cut. She said the coach got all the kids all together at the end of practice on friday and picked out kids to turn in they stuff because they not on the team anymore. Kids was crying cause they dont know what they done wrong and whats worse is the PA president was there when they was cut in front of everybody so he knew. Parents told STJFL and that how yall got in trouble for stacking Yall was already in trouble when yall got who yall wanted off the bees and cowboys and told everybody else yall was full when the rules say you open till july. You crazy if yall do stuff like that and think it wont hit the street! STJFL had enough to put PA out right then but let PA finish the year out so it look like they more about kids then yall was. Yall out because 2 of the PA board acted like fools all year and made problems.... I dont know exactly what they did but I bet money you was one of the ones they wanted gone.
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First off.....NO I was not one of the ones they wanted gone. And I know exactly who told you. There were two women and only 2 that were upset. One of the lady's name is PATRICIA THOMAS, and the reason why she was made was because her son signed up late. And the other IS STEPHANIE MARTIN, and  her son was on the team but he wanted to play with his friends that were on another team. She then went to NEDERLAND (when she lives in PORT ARTHUR)! When STJFL RULES STATE: that the kid must play in the area that they live or attend school.

All you are hearing is SHE SAY from a parent that didn't get what she wanted!

[b][color=red]NOW THAT IS THE RED BOLD LETTER FACTS![/color][/b]
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[quote name="One4All" post="1166301" timestamp="1327597946"]
I agree rules are rules and  you must play by the rules................. when a rule is broken a judgment made..
example,
2 people are pulled over for speeding by the same officer but only 1 person gets a ticket for speeding.Wrong or right it always lies on the judge or who's judging .....
[/quote]I get it. The driver from P.A got a ticket, and the driver from Nederland was told to slow down ;D ;D ;D
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[quote name="jrmdvs536" post="1166299" timestamp="1327597690"]
[quote author=TITANS2011 link=topic=94298.msg1166207#msg1166207 date=1327589150]
[quote author=jrmdvs536 link=topic=94298.msg1165852#msg1165852 date=1327518260]
[quote author=TITANS2011 link=topic=94298.msg1165755#msg1165755 date=1327506978]
[quote author=thetragichippy link=topic=94298.msg1164794#msg1164794 date=1327356543]
[color=red]They went from not knowing anything to knowing a lot.........[/color][/quote]

Its not about knowing anything to knowing a lot..............all this happend before STJFL TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES TO LET PA GO. Its not about know it all...its about them giving a reason to why! Once it was said that STJFL WANTED CERTAIN PEOPLE OUT, there was no reason to that either......STOP READING TO HARD AT WHAT IS BEING TYPED!
[/quote]

Its all about what you know because thats how all this mess got started when you said nobody told you nothing. Then your president got on here and said he didnt know nothing either. I put what I had heard about PA board members and all the sudden you know everything the is to know about the situation with 2 people being told to leave.  You the one that said it so nobody reading too deep!. STJFL has that right to do what they want because your in they world and you was new. Yall broke they rules then blame them for not reading it to you. The rules is right there for the world to see I just went and looked at it! Its not STJFL fault you didnt go read the rules before you got started. They dont owe you nothing.... when they say get rid of so and so or yall be gone you got a choice to do what they say or find a new yard to play at. Yall made a choice and now yall blame everybody else and make it about everything but what it is.... All about race or somebody afraid of your talent when yall know that not true. Just because you dont agree with STJFL dont make you a victim. [color=red]If you dont like it go cry with them kids you sent home after they did a week of practice[/color] because I KNOW they didnt deserve what they got! Then you come on here and say its all about the kids. Last thing I got is yall come on here saying people dont need to hide behind usernames then you come on here and call people out by they real name because you think they owe you something.... you a class act! If this the way yall acted all year its no wonder you gone.
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Your right about them "NOT OWING US NOTHING!" Its about the right things to do! I guess your word is better than everyone elses. I guess your on the board to know that KIDS WERE SENT HOME AFTER A WEEK OF PRACTICE...........casue I'm sure that wasn't made public or posted on any website! Just like how PA was punished by NOT BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PLAYOFFS and a Nederland Parent stated that our games don't matter AT A GAME. I guess that punishment was posted on a website too! OPEN INFORMATION! Yeah right! Its all about STJFL didn't want PA in their league in the 1st place! The had not reason to not let us in and any reason to put us out!

ALL THIS WAs DONE SO THAT STJFL CAN SAY....WE GAVE THEM A CHANCE!

I AM JUST GOING TO BE HONEST....PA DIDN'T DESERVE TO GET PUT OUT....[b][color=red]AND FOR THIS I HOPE STJFL LOSES EVERYTHING THEY HAVE EVER ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!!!!!![/color][/b]SORRY FOR THE KIDS...MAYBE THEY CAN GO TO A BETTER LEAGUE WHICH TEACHES THEM MORE ABOUT WHATS RIGHT AND FAIR, THAN WHATS EASY TO DO!!!!!!!!
[/quote]

My words no better than everyone else but I talk the truth and the truth is easy cause you dont have to defend youself with big red sentences! I got all that story from a parent of 1 of the kids yall cut. She said the coach got all the kids all together at the end of practice on friday and picked out kids to turn in they stuff because they not on the team anymore. Kids was crying cause they dont know what they done wrong and whats worse is the PA president was there when they was cut in front of everybody so he knew. Parents told STJFL and that how yall got in trouble for stacking Yall was already in trouble when yall got who yall wanted off the bees and cowboys and told everybody else yall was full when the rules say you open till july. You crazy if yall do stuff like that and think it wont hit the street! STJFL had enough to put PA out right then but let PA finish the year out so it look like they more about kids then yall was. [color=red]Yall out because 2 of the PA board acted like fools all year and made problems.... I dont know exactly what they did [/color] but I bet money you was one of the ones they wanted gone.

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you sound like us. So like us you'll have to wait for an answer. but since you know so much about Pa im sure i could get you to find out for us. ;)
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[quote name="One4All" post="1166301" timestamp="1327597946"]
I agree rules are rules and  you must play by the rules................. when a rule is broken a judgment made..
example,
2 people are pulled over for speeding by the same officer but only 1 person gets a ticket for speeding.Wrong or right it always lies on the judge or who's judging .....
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Your right. RULES ARE RULES AND MUST PLAY BY THE RULES.........
REGISTRATION: VIOLATED
PUNISHMENT: NO PLAYOFFS

So are you saying: For an example: 2 people are pulled over for speeding by the same officer but only 1 person gets a ticket for speeding and are allowed to leave, then turns around and that same police officer pulls them over just because their car is red and blames it on speeding:

The point is, rules were violated, punishment was served! THERE WERE NO EXTENTION ON THE PUNISHMENT, SO WHY IS PA GETTING CHARGED TWICE?

STJFL DOUBLE JEPARDY!
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[quote author=One4All link=topic=94298.msg1166301#msg1166301 date=1327597946]
I agree rules are rules and  you must play by the rules................. when a rule is broken a judgment made..
example,
2 people are pulled over for speeding by the same officer but only 1 person gets a ticket for speeding.Wrong or right it always lies on the judge or who's judging .....
[/quote]I get it. The driver from P.A got a ticket, and the driver from Nederland was told to slow down ;D ;D ;D
[/quote]


[b][color=red]FINALLY: SOMEBODY SEE'S THE BIG PICTURE OF WHY PEOPLE FROM PA ARE UPSET[/color][/b]
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[quote name="TITANS2011" post="1166315" timestamp="1327599083"]
[quote author=Tebowing link=topic=94298.msg1166311#msg1166311 date=1327598874]
[quote author=One4All link=topic=94298.msg1166301#msg1166301 date=1327597946]
I agree rules are rules and  you must play by the rules................. when a rule is broken a judgment made..
example,
2 people are pulled over for speeding by the same officer but only 1 person gets a ticket for speeding.Wrong or right it always lies on the judge or who's judging .....
[/quote]I get it. The driver from P.A got a ticket, and the driver from Nederland was told to slow down ;D ;D ;D
[/quote]


[b][color=red]FINALLY: SOMEBODY SEE'S THE BIG PICTURE OF WHY PEOPLE FROM PA ARE UPSET[/color][/b]
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[color=red]AND LET ME ALSO REMIND EVERYONE, THAT THOSE INCIDENTS WERE ALSO BROUGHT UP AT THE BOARD MEETINGS, WITH THOSE COACHES SLAPPED ON THE WRIST![/color]WOW
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Wow and y'all think cheer moms are crazy.  ;D

[quote name="Coach Ned Little Titans" post="1166306" timestamp="1327598456"]
[quote author=Coach Ned Little Titans link=topic=94298.msg1165482#msg1165482 date=1327461033]
What problems did we cause? I want specifics not hear say. This can come from anyone. Please have only Truth!!!!!  And no i'm not a board member so it's not me, so no cheat shot.
[/quote]
My turn.
1)nederland quit in the middle of a game and refuse to shake our kids hand.
2)[b]nederland had a coach run on the field and scream at our flag kids.[/b]
3)png had kids calling our kids the [color=red]N word.[/color] Mark is aware all where reported
I wonder what happen to them



nothing
[/quote]



If anyone Coach or parent ever screamed at my kid or any other kid in my presence I would have a conversation with them right then and there.  No matter who they were.  This Momma doesn't play that.

As far as the other things that you mentioned that happen not saying they were right but stuff like that goes on in all sports up until HS and probably past that also.  I have seen/heard lots of kids girls included of all colors say things they would not say if they weren't in a game setting or who knows they might but I doubt it.  Doesn't make it right.  I have always told my kids to not do or say something you wouldn't do in front of me.  My kids are far from angels but they know I do not play with that name calling stuff.  In all sports you see kids and even grown men act like fools  doesn't make it right but it happens especially if it is a losing team.  Still doesn't make it right.

Also it should be about the kids but lets be honest with ourselves most people like to win.  I mean that is what it is really all about.  We can preach it is just a game but if we are honest with ourselves it is really about winning because no one remembers the 2nd place team.  Does it make it right, no.
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[quote name="Cheermom4" post="1166322" timestamp="1327599574"]
Wow and y'all think cheer moms are crazy.  ;D

[quote author=Coach Ned Little Titans link=topic=94298.msg1166306#msg1166306 date=1327598456]
[quote author=Coach Ned Little Titans link=topic=94298.msg1165482#msg1165482 date=1327461033]
What problems did we cause? I want specifics not hear say. This can come from anyone. Please have only Truth!!!!!  And no i'm not a board member so it's not me, so no cheat shot.
[/quote]
My turn.
1)nederland quit in the middle of a game and refuse to shake our kids hand.
2)[b]nederland had a coach run on the field and scream at our flag kids.[/b]
3)png had kids calling our kids the [color=red]N word.[/color] Mark is aware all where reported
I wonder what happen to them



nothing
[/quote]



[color=red]If anyone Coach or parent ever screamed at my kid or any other kid in my presence I would have a conversation with them right then and there.[/color]  No matter who they were.  This Momma doesn't play that.

As far as the other things that you mentioned that happen not saying they were right but stuff like that goes on in all sports up until HS and probably past that also.  I have seen/heard lots of kids girls included of all colors say things they would not say if they weren't in a game setting or who knows they might but I doubt it.  Doesn't make it right.  I have always told my kids to not do or say something you wouldn't do in front of me.  My kids are far from angels but they know I do not play with that name calling stuff.  In all sports you see kids and even grown men act like fools  doesn't make it right but it happens especially if it is a losing team.  Still doesn't make it right.

Also it should be about the kids but lets be honest with ourselves most people like to win.  I mean that is what it is really all about.  We can preach it is just a game but if we are honest with ourselves it is really about winning because no one remembers the 2nd place team.  Does it make it right, no.
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that would have been us causing problem, so i still say.  [color=red][b]WHAT PROBLEMS DID WE CAUSE ALL YEAR?[/b][/color]
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[quote name="Coach Ned Little Titans" post="1166330" timestamp="1327600217"]
[quote author=Cheermom4 link=topic=94298.msg1166322#msg1166322 date=1327599574]
Wow and y'all think cheer moms are crazy.  ;D

[quote author=Coach Ned Little Titans link=topic=94298.msg1166306#msg1166306 date=1327598456]
[quote author=Coach Ned Little Titans link=topic=94298.msg1165482#msg1165482 date=1327461033]
What problems did we cause? I want specifics not hear say. This can come from anyone. Please have only Truth!!!!!  And no i'm not a board member so it's not me, so no cheat shot.
[/quote]
My turn.
1)nederland quit in the middle of a game and refuse to shake our kids hand.
2)[b]nederland had a coach run on the field and scream at our flag kids.[/b]
3)png had kids calling our kids the [color=red]N word.[/color] Mark is aware all where reported
I wonder what happen to them



nothing
[/quote]



[color=red]If anyone Coach or parent ever screamed at my kid or any other kid in my presence I would have a conversation with them right then and there.[/color]  No matter who they were.  This Momma doesn't play that.

As far as the other things that you mentioned that happen not saying they were right but stuff like that goes on in all sports up until HS and probably past that also.  I have seen/heard lots of kids girls included of all colors say things they would not say if they weren't in a game setting or who knows they might but I doubt it.  Doesn't make it right.  I have always told my kids to not do or say something you wouldn't do in front of me.  My kids are far from angels but they know I do not play with that name calling stuff.  In all sports you see kids and even grown men act like fools  doesn't make it right but it happens especially if it is a losing team.  Still doesn't make it right.

Also it should be about the kids but lets be honest with ourselves most people like to win.  I mean that is what it is really all about.  We can preach it is just a game but if we are honest with ourselves it is really about winning because no one remembers the 2nd place team.  Does it make it right, no.
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that would have been us causing problem, so i still say.  [color=red][b]WHAT PROBLEMS DID WE CAUSE ALL YEAR.[/b][/color]
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I work with kids and that is just one thing I would never do is yell at them.  I know that when you are coaching kids and you are out numbered by a bunch that you need to yell over them.  That is a total different story but a coach from the other team yelling at my child.  HELL TO THE NO we would be having a conversation with probably other parents involvement if he tried to scream at me.  I would be nice and calm until that point.
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[quote name="Cheermom4" post="1166332" timestamp="1327600489"]
[quote author=Coach Ned Little Titans link=topic=94298.msg1166330#msg1166330 date=1327600217]
[quote author=Cheermom4 link=topic=94298.msg1166322#msg1166322 date=1327599574]
Wow and y'all think cheer moms are crazy.  ;D

[quote author=Coach Ned Little Titans link=topic=94298.msg1166306#msg1166306 date=1327598456]
[quote author=Coach Ned Little Titans link=topic=94298.msg1165482#msg1165482 date=1327461033]
What problems did we cause? I want specifics not hear say. This can come from anyone. Please have only Truth!!!!!  And no i'm not a board member so it's not me, so no cheat shot.
[/quote]
My turn.
1)nederland quit in the middle of a game and refuse to shake our kids hand.
2)[b]nederland had a coach run on the field and scream at our flag kids.[/b]
3)png had kids calling our kids the [color=red]N word.[/color] Mark is aware all where reported
I wonder what happen to them



nothing
[/quote]



[color=red]If anyone Coach or parent ever screamed at my kid or any other kid in my presence I would have a conversation with them right then and there.[/color]  No matter who they were.  This Momma doesn't play that.

As far as the other things that you mentioned that happen not saying they were right but stuff like that goes on in all sports up until HS and probably past that also.  I have seen/heard lots of kids girls included of all colors say things they would not say if they weren't in a game setting or who knows they might but I doubt it.  Doesn't make it right.  I have always told my kids to not do or say something you wouldn't do in front of me.  My kids are far from angels but they know I do not play with that name calling stuff.  In all sports you see kids and even grown men act like fools  doesn't make it right but it happens especially if it is a losing team.  Still doesn't make it right.

Also it should be about the kids but lets be honest with ourselves most people like to win.  I mean that is what it is really all about.  We can preach it is just a game but if we are honest with ourselves it is really about winning because no one remembers the 2nd place team.  Does it make it right, no.
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that would have been us causing problem, so i still say.  [color=red][b]WHAT PROBLEMS DID WE CAUSE ALL YEAR.[/b][/color]
[/quote]


I work with kids and that is just one thing I would never do is yell at them.  I know that when you are coaching kids and you are out numbered by a bunch that you need to yell over them.  That is a total different story but a coach from the other team yelling at my child.  HELL TO THE NO we would be having a conversation with probably other parents involvement if he tried to scream at me.  I would be nice and calm until that point.
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And guess what happend to that coach: NOTHING......
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[quote author=One4All link=topic=94298.msg1164813#msg1164813 date=1327358536]
There is only a few people who know the whole truth.....(The BIG Picture in all this!!)......less than a few will tell u or somebody the Truth....So I still say if the Facts was to be told many people would be surprised or raise an eyebrow!!!!
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[quote author=One4All link=topic=94298.msg1164813#msg1164813 date=1327358536]
There is only a few people who know the whole truth.....(The BIG Picture in all this!!)......less than a few will tell u or somebody the Truth....So I still say if the Facts was to be told many people would be surprised or raise an eyebrow!!!!
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well im ready to be surprised or have my eyebrow raised.
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[quote name="One4All" post="1166335" timestamp="1327600638"]
[quote author=One4All link=topic=94298.msg1164813#msg1164813 date=1327358536]
There is only a few people who know the whole truth.....(The BIG Picture in all this!!)......less than a few will tell u or somebody the Truth....So I still say if the Facts was to be told many people would be surprised or raise an eyebrow!!!!
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THAT IS SO TRUE......The only difference is that the people in Port Arthur wouldn't raise and eyebrow.....THEY WOULD BE MORE LIKE [color=red]I TOLD YOU SO![/color]
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[color=red]They went from not knowing anything to knowing a lot.........[/color][/quote]

Its not about knowing anything to knowing a lot..............all this happend before STJFL TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES TO LET PA GO. Its not about know it all...its about them giving a reason to why! Once it was said that STJFL WANTED CERTAIN PEOPLE OUT, there was no reason to that either......STOP READING TO HARD AT WHAT IS BEING TYPED!
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Its all about what you know because thats how all this mess got started when you said nobody told you nothing. Then your president got on here and said he didnt know nothing either. I put what I had heard about PA board members and all the sudden you know everything the is to know about the situation with 2 people being told to leave.  You the one that said it so nobody reading too deep!. STJFL has that right to do what they want because your in they world and you was new. Yall broke they rules then blame them for not reading it to you. The rules is right there for the world to see I just went and looked at it! Its not STJFL fault you didnt go read the rules before you got started. They dont owe you nothing.... when they say get rid of so and so or yall be gone you got a choice to do what they say or find a new yard to play at. Yall made a choice and now yall blame everybody else and make it about everything but what it is.... All about race or somebody afraid of your talent when yall know that not true. Just because you dont agree with STJFL dont make you a victim. [color=red]If you dont like it go cry with them kids you sent home after they did a week of practice[/color] because I KNOW they didnt deserve what they got! Then you come on here and say its all about the kids. Last thing I got is yall come on here saying people dont need to hide behind usernames then you come on here and call people out by they real name because you think they owe you something.... you a class act! If this the way yall acted all year its no wonder you gone.
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Your right about them "NOT OWING US NOTHING!" Its about the right things to do! I guess your word is better than everyone elses. I guess your on the board to know that KIDS WERE SENT HOME AFTER A WEEK OF PRACTICE...........casue I'm sure that wasn't made public or posted on any website! Just like how PA was punished by NOT BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PLAYOFFS and a Nederland Parent stated that our games don't matter AT A GAME. I guess that punishment was posted on a website too! OPEN INFORMATION! Yeah right! Its all about STJFL didn't want PA in their league in the 1st place! The had not reason to not let us in and any reason to put us out!

ALL THIS WAs DONE SO THAT STJFL CAN SAY....WE GAVE THEM A CHANCE!

I AM JUST GOING TO BE HONEST....PA DIDN'T DESERVE TO GET PUT OUT....[b][color=red]AND FOR THIS I HOPE STJFL LOSES EVERYTHING THEY HAVE EVER ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!!!!!![/color][/b]SORRY FOR THE KIDS...MAYBE THEY CAN GO TO A BETTER LEAGUE WHICH TEACHES THEM MORE ABOUT WHATS RIGHT AND FAIR, THAN WHATS EASY TO DO!!!!!!!!
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My words no better than everyone else but I talk the truth and the truth is easy cause you dont have to defend youself with big red sentences! I got all that story from a parent of 1 of the kids yall cut. She said the coach got all the kids all together at the end of practice on friday and picked out kids to turn in they stuff because they not on the team anymore. Kids was crying cause they dont know what they done wrong and whats worse is the PA president was there when they was cut in front of everybody so he knew. Parents told STJFL and that how yall got in trouble for stacking Yall was already in trouble when yall got who yall wanted off the bees and cowboys and told everybody else yall was full when the rules say you open till july. You crazy if yall do stuff like that and think it wont hit the street! STJFL had enough to put PA out right then but let PA finish the year out so it look like they more about kids then yall was. Yall out because 2 of the PA board acted like fools all year and made problems.... I dont know exactly what they did but I bet money you was one of the ones they wanted gone.
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First off.....NO I was not one of the ones they wanted gone. And I know exactly who told you. There were two women and only 2 that were upset. One of the lady's name is PATRICIA THOMAS, and the reason why she was made was because her son signed up late. And the other IS STEPHANIE MARTIN, and  her son was on the team but he wanted to play with his friends that were on another team. She then went to NEDERLAND (when she lives in PORT ARTHUR)! When STJFL RULES STATE: that the kid must play in the area that they live or attend school.

All you are hearing is SHE SAY from a parent that didn't get what she wanted!

[b][color=red]NOW THAT IS THE RED BOLD LETTER FACTS![/color][/b]
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It dont matter who told that kids was cut it matters THAT kids was cut! You so busy throwing people names out and putting blame one everybody else you miss the BIG Picture. Why was any kids cut from the PA teams when they been at practice all week? If they sign up late they not on the team so that dont work! How 1 kids mama want him on another team when PA had 1 team? It dont even matter because you never cut kids!
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[quote author=TITANS2011 link=topic=94298.msg1166308#msg1166308 date=1327598761]
[quote author=jrmdvs536 link=topic=94298.msg1166299#msg1166299 date=1327597690]
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[quote author=TITANS2011 link=topic=94298.msg1165755#msg1165755 date=1327506978]
[quote author=thetragichippy link=topic=94298.msg1164794#msg1164794 date=1327356543]
[color=red]They went from not knowing anything to knowing a lot.........[/color][/quote]

Its not about knowing anything to knowing a lot..............all this happend before STJFL TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES TO LET PA GO. Its not about know it all...its about them giving a reason to why! Once it was said that STJFL WANTED CERTAIN PEOPLE OUT, there was no reason to that either......STOP READING TO HARD AT WHAT IS BEING TYPED!
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Its all about what you know because thats how all this mess got started when you said nobody told you nothing. Then your president got on here and said he didnt know nothing either. I put what I had heard about PA board members and all the sudden you know everything the is to know about the situation with 2 people being told to leave.  You the one that said it so nobody reading too deep!. STJFL has that right to do what they want because your in they world and you was new. Yall broke they rules then blame them for not reading it to you. The rules is right there for the world to see I just went and looked at it! Its not STJFL fault you didnt go read the rules before you got started. They dont owe you nothing.... when they say get rid of so and so or yall be gone you got a choice to do what they say or find a new yard to play at. Yall made a choice and now yall blame everybody else and make it about everything but what it is.... All about race or somebody afraid of your talent when yall know that not true. Just because you dont agree with STJFL dont make you a victim. [color=red]If you dont like it go cry with them kids you sent home after they did a week of practice[/color] because I KNOW they didnt deserve what they got! Then you come on here and say its all about the kids. Last thing I got is yall come on here saying people dont need to hide behind usernames then you come on here and call people out by they real name because you think they owe you something.... you a class act! If this the way yall acted all year its no wonder you gone.
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Your right about them "NOT OWING US NOTHING!" Its about the right things to do! I guess your word is better than everyone elses. I guess your on the board to know that KIDS WERE SENT HOME AFTER A WEEK OF PRACTICE...........casue I'm sure that wasn't made public or posted on any website! Just like how PA was punished by NOT BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PLAYOFFS and a Nederland Parent stated that our games don't matter AT A GAME. I guess that punishment was posted on a website too! OPEN INFORMATION! Yeah right! Its all about STJFL didn't want PA in their league in the 1st place! The had not reason to not let us in and any reason to put us out!

ALL THIS WAs DONE SO THAT STJFL CAN SAY....WE GAVE THEM A CHANCE!

I AM JUST GOING TO BE HONEST....PA DIDN'T DESERVE TO GET PUT OUT....[b][color=red]AND FOR THIS I HOPE STJFL LOSES EVERYTHING THEY HAVE EVER ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!!!!!![/color][/b]SORRY FOR THE KIDS...MAYBE THEY CAN GO TO A BETTER LEAGUE WHICH TEACHES THEM MORE ABOUT WHATS RIGHT AND FAIR, THAN WHATS EASY TO DO!!!!!!!!
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My words no better than everyone else but I talk the truth and the truth is easy cause you dont have to defend youself with big red sentences! I got all that story from a parent of 1 of the kids yall cut. She said the coach got all the kids all together at the end of practice on friday and picked out kids to turn in they stuff because they not on the team anymore. Kids was crying cause they dont know what they done wrong and whats worse is the PA president was there when they was cut in front of everybody so he knew. Parents told STJFL and that how yall got in trouble for stacking Yall was already in trouble when yall got who yall wanted off the bees and cowboys and told everybody else yall was full when the rules say you open till july. You crazy if yall do stuff like that and think it wont hit the street! STJFL had enough to put PA out right then but let PA finish the year out so it look like they more about kids then yall was. Yall out because 2 of the PA board acted like fools all year and made problems.... I dont know exactly what they did but I bet money you was one of the ones they wanted gone.
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First off.....NO I was not one of the ones they wanted gone. And I know exactly who told you. There were two women and only 2 that were upset. One of the lady's name is PATRICIA THOMAS, and the reason why she was made was because her son signed up late. And the other IS STEPHANIE MARTIN, and  her son was on the team but he wanted to play with his friends that were on another team. She then went to NEDERLAND (when she lives in PORT ARTHUR)! When STJFL RULES STATE: that the kid must play in the area that they live or attend school.

All you are hearing is SHE SAY from a parent that didn't get what she wanted!

[b][color=red]NOW THAT IS THE RED BOLD LETTER FACTS![/color][/b]
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It dont matter who told that kids was cut it matters THAT kids was cut! You so busy throwing people names out and putting blame one everybody else you miss the BIG Picture. Why was any kids cut from the PA teams when they been at practice all week? If they sign up late they not on the team so that dont work! [color=red]How 1 kids mama want him on another team when PA had 1 team[/color]? It dont even matter because you never cut kids!
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To answer your question: The little boy was able to play on the senior level but decided not to:

And all that I keep hearing is about what Port Arthur did at the beginning of the season BEFORE A GAME WAS EVER PLAYED!

[b][color=red]LET ME BE AS CLEAR AS I CAN BE!.......REGISTRATION WAS VIOLATED! PUNISHMENT OF NO PLAYOFFS WERE SERVED! (THAT CASE IS OVER, CLOSED, AND DONE WITH)!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/color][/b]

[color=red][b]THE QUESTION IS WHY WERE WE REMOVED!!!!!!![/b][/color]

Since your so SMART and know everything else......ANSWER THAT QUESTION!
CAN'T BE REMOVED FOR A VIOLATION THAT PUNISHMENT (THAT STJFL CAME UP WITH) WAS SERVED!

YOUR MISSING THE BIG PICTURE! THE INCIDENTS THAT YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT IS OVER! LETS JUMP INTO PRESENT DAY!
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Actually part of punishment at the beginning was to write a letter to all parents and explain what happened. Explain the rules and punishment. This was not done. Repeated  unsportsmanship activity: running up score etc. poor conduct by coaches. Many refs didn't want to call PA games at the end of the yr. including black refs. It wasnt one act It was many.  In my opinion u are right they should have removed y'all after the 1st infraction but it is about the kids so they let u play out the season.  And since your kids will be playing next yr why is this such an issue. Your kids will play football it does really matter where.  Is it about the kids or is it about you?  Cause u won't accept any explanation and u don't seem to be able to stop talking about it! Your kids will not miss a beat. Im sure they don't care where they play.
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[color=yellow]Actually part of punishment at the beginning was to write a letter to all parents and explain what happened[/color]. Explain the rules and punishment. This was not done. [color=green]Repeated  unsportsmanship activity: running up score etc. poor conduct by coaches.[/color] [color=purple]Many refs didn't want to call PA games at the end of the yr. including black refs. [/color] [color=navy]It wasnt one act It was many.[/color]  In my opinion u are right they should have removed y'all after the 1st infraction but it is about the kids so they let u play out the season.  And since your kids will be playing next yr why is this such an issue. Your kids will play football it does really matter where.  Is it about the kids or is it about you?  Cause u won't accept any explanation and u don't seem to be able to stop talking about it! Your kids will not miss a beat. Im sure they don't care where they play.
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Let me get this straight:
1. They kicked PA out because of a letter that was not written to the parents BEFORE A GAME WAS EVER PLAYED? (Lets see, who should have been punished for that? THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION?)

2. Unsportsman ship like activities:
Running the score up:PA flag team most winning score was 27-0
                                Nederland flag team most winning score 39-0
                                PA PeeWee team most winning score 50-0
                                  Port Neches PeeWee 41-0 two different games
                                  Lumberton PeeWee 41-0
                                  PA Jr team most winning score 46-0
                                  Lumberton Jr team 48-0
                                  PA Sr team most winning score 44-14
                                  Lumberton Sr team 48-0 two different games
****AND YOU SAY WE RAN THE SCORE UP***** GUESS THE OTHER TEAMS WERE MORE UNSPORTSMAN LIKE THAN PA

Poor Conduct By Coaches: How many of Port Arthur Coaches were suspened during the season? 0. BUT HOW MANY OTHER COACHES FROM DIFFERENT TEAMS WERE SUSPENDED...................MORE THAN A FEW
***AND PORT ARTHUR'S CONDUCT IS BAD***** WOW HATE TO SEE WHAT THE OTHER COACHES GOT***THEY MIGHT HAVE LOST THEIR RIGHTS TO BE A US CITIZEN

3. Many refs didn't want to call PA games at the end of the yr.
I wonder why? Is it because the field that we played on wasn't like the other fields (OH IT WAS THE NICEST ONE). Was it because there were fights at the games? (NO BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T ANY) Was it because we abused or disrepected any ref or member of the other team? (NO BECAUSE THE REF HAS THE OPTION ONCE THAT HAPPENS TO PUT US OUT)

Now after all of that.....CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME THE TRUTH TO WHY PORT ARTHUR WAS KICKED OUT

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Actually part of punishment at the beginning was to write a letter to all parents and explain what happened. Explain the rules and punishment. This was not done. Repeated  unsportsmanship activity: running up score etc. poor conduct by coaches. Many refs didn't want to call PA games at the end of the yr. including black refs. It wasnt one act It was many.  In my opinion u are right they should have removed y'all after the 1st infraction but it is about the kids so they let u play out the season.  And since your kids will be playing next yr why is this such an issue. Your kids will play football it does really matter where.  Is it about the kids or is it about you?  Cause u won't accept any explanation and u don't seem to be able to stop talking about it! Your kids will not miss a beat. Im sure they don't care where they play.
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Sooooooooo one sided,soooo many false statement.....All organizations has done most of what you have stayed......... SOME WORSE..... it's all about who's judging
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[quote name="thetragichippy" post="1166438" timestamp="1327609868"]
LMBO.....this thread is going no where.....


You keep defending yourself by bringing up other teams........Some of these teams have been in the league a LONG time......it was your first year and you screwed up........end of story,,,,,,
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So there is no comparison with other teams. So STJFL turns their head at what other teams have done because they been in the league for a while. Is that FAVORTISIUM? And is that FAIR? I keep bring what other teams have done because it keeps being said what we have done. BUT NEVERTHELESS, the facts are clear......STFJL NEVER WANTED PORT ARTHUR IN THE 1ST PLACE!!!!!!

And to be honest if a STJFL BOARD MEMBER: would come on here and admitt the truth or just say: WE NEVER LIKED PA, NEVER WANTED PA TO BE IN, NEVER WANTED TO PLAY PA.......then i will end this thread and move on!

So how about you get with your people and have them get back to me!
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[quote author=Tex22 link=topic=94298.msg1166410#msg1166410 date=1327606393]
Actually part of punishment at the beginning was to write a letter to all parents and explain what happened. Explain the rules and punishment. This was not done. Repeated  unsportsmanship activity: running up score etc. poor conduct by coaches. Many refs didn't want to call PA games at the end of the yr. including black refs. It wasnt one act It was many.  In my opinion u are right they should have removed y'all after the 1st infraction but it is about the kids so they let u play out the season.  And since your kids will be playing next yr why is this such an issue. Your kids will play football it does really matter where.  Is it about the kids or is it about you?  Cause u won't accept any explanation and u don't seem to be able to stop talking about it! Your kids will not miss a beat. Im sure they don't care where they play.
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Sooooooooo one sided,soooo many false statement.....All organizations has done most of what you have stayed......... SOME WORSE..... it's all about who's judging
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This is so true and the fact of the matter is........ONE TEAM GETS A SLAP ON THE WRIST BECAUSE OF TIME IN THE LEAGUE AND THE OTHER TEAM GETS KICKED OUT!

WOW......I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY! GUESS I NEED TO MOVE TO CHINA!
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