cooligan Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 I was thinking the same thing Dawg. ADJUSTMENTS! According to most on here the Ozen and Central coaches can't coach and it is their superior talent that is keeping them in the game. Can't wait to see the adjustments. Maybe we will actually see a real play or set this time around.
stevenash Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1170532" timestamp="1328208100"]You gotta give the props to coaches at schools like Nederland (and HJ). They keep winning with [s]no [/s] little talent ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D[/quote]I guess that depends on how one interprets talent. From my perspective, there are a couple of different ways (probably more) to arrive at your conclusion. In one corner are those whose evaluation is based on speed, athleticism, and shake n bake capabilities while in the other corner are those who believe that skill and understanding/achieving the game objective are major components of "talent".
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 And I thought you are the dunk-o-meter guy? Talent are dunks only, at least thats what you had me believing :-\
pete092775 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 DIDN'T REALIZE THAT A UNDEFEATED TEAM IN DISTRICT IS MAKING ALOT OF AJUSTMENTS. IF MR. ENGLISH IS MAKING ALOT OF ADJUSTMENTS IM GUESSING HE MUST HAVE A FEW WEAK LINKS IN HIS TEAM. EVEN A BLIND SQUIRREL CAN FIND AN ACORN EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. 8)
CThoops Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 Just my thought, but I think the team undefeated in district has the most talent. I respect Coach English and know he does a fantastic job, but sometimes the players dont get as much credit as they deserve. Great Job Dogs and hope yall continue to perform well!
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="dogs1218" post="1170566" timestamp="1328209032"]Just my thought, but I think the team undefeated in district has the most talent. I respect Coach English and know he does a fantastic job, but sometimes the players dont get as much credit as they deserve. Great Job Dogs and hope yall continue to perform well![/quote]You guys are undefeated because you play like a team. Very unselfish and your players play within [color=red]AND ACCEPT[/color] their roles and limitations. A very important commodity to winning
Pfrezzi Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 The nederland players don't get the credit they deserve. The coaching is outstanding, but the talent on the team is extremely underrated. Just because they may not be as athletic does not mean they lack talent.
rc2182 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 I have never said anything negative about coaches ,but i made my judgement based on watching both games. as for as talent is concerned that does not mean any thing if kids don't buy into what you are teaching .Nederland had home court advantage and I think that is what gave theam a slight advantage ,that wont be the case this time around so lets just see what happens both wins were close its not like they blew either team out.
stevenash Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="pete092775" post="1170563" timestamp="1328208956"]DIDN'T REALIZE THAT A UNDEFEATED TEAM IN DISTRICT IS MAKING ALOT OF AJUSTMENTS. IF MR. ENGLISH IS MAKING ALOT OF ADJUSTMENTS IM GUESSING HE MUST HAVE A FEW WEAK LINKS IN HIS TEAM. EVEN A BLIND SQUIRREL CAN FIND AN ACORN EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. 8)[/quote]The game of basketball is full of adjustments always. I am suggesting (and so is the Nederland record) that Mr. English is quite adept at choosing where and when to make his adjustments. I further suspect that every team has weak links and, in order to exploit them, the opposition must also make adjustments. To this point, Mr. English is clearly the superior "adjustor".
CThoops Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="rc2182" post="1170587" timestamp="1328209614"]I have never said anything negative about coaches ,but i made my judgement based on watching both games. as for as talent is concerned that does not mean any thing if kids don't buy into what you are teaching .Nederland had home court advantage and I think that is what gave theam a slight advantage ,that wont be the case this time around so lets just see what happens both wins were close [b]its not like they blew either team out.[/b][/quote]Not bragging. Simply pulling a score for you. 51-34
stevenash Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 And yes, 51-34 is a blowout. It is the equivalent of 102-68.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="stevenash" post="1170592" timestamp="1328209812"][quote author=pete092775 link=topic=95269.msg1170563#msg1170563 date=1328208956]DIDN'T REALIZE THAT A UNDEFEATED TEAM IN DISTRICT IS MAKING ALOT OF AJUSTMENTS. IF MR. ENGLISH IS MAKING ALOT OF ADJUSTMENTS IM GUESSING HE MUST HAVE A FEW WEAK LINKS IN HIS TEAM. EVEN A BLIND SQUIRREL CAN FIND AN ACORN EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. 8)[/quote]The game of basketball is full of adjustments always. I am suggesting (and so is the Nederland record) that Mr. English is quite adept at choosing where and when to make his adjustments. I further suspect that every team has weak links and, in order to exploit them, the opposition must also make adjustments. To this point, Mr. English is clearly the superior "adjustor".[/quote]And his players have bought into his system.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 You can make all the adjustments you want to, if players don't get it, well..........................
stevenash Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1170601" timestamp="1328210066"]You can make all the adjustments you want to, if players don't get it, well..........................[/quote]Don't get it? Isn't that where intellect comes into play. Be assured that Nederland will not take an intellectual back seat to anyone.
rc2182 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 I agree Dove ,you have to buy into the system and I think the Central game was closer than the score indicate .but ok ,blowout one day left to see what a difference close to a month makes.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="stevenash" post="1170607" timestamp="1328210120"][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170601#msg1170601 date=1328210066]You can make all the adjustments you want to, if players don't get it, well..........................[/quote]Don't get it? Isn't that where intellect comes into play. Be assured that Nederland will not take an intellectual back seat to anyone.[/quote]Nothing to do with intellect; as much as the discipline to want to do it the coach's way.
CThoops Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 I know for a fact Central can beat Nederland. Seem them play quite a few times. Will be a good game. Just dont want people to put all the praise on Coach English, when the players deserve a little love too ;)
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="dogs1218" post="1170625" timestamp="1328210572"]I know for a fact Central can beat Nederland. Seem them play quite a few times. Will be a good game. Just dont want people to put all the praise on Coach English, when the players deserve a little love too ;)[/quote]Nederland players are good. I've been saying for the past 3 years Nederland would be good. English destined it to be :D
stevenash Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1170623" timestamp="1328210447"][quote author=stevenash link=topic=95269.msg1170607#msg1170607 date=1328210120][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170601#msg1170601 date=1328210066]You can make all the adjustments you want to, if players don't get it, well..........................[/quote]Don't get it? Isn't that where intellect comes into play. Be assured that Nederland will not take an intellectual back seat to anyone.[/quote]Nothing to do with intellect; as much as the discipline to want to do it the coach's way.[/quote]I simply say that having that discipline comes from the mental capability to understand why it should be that way and to accept it without question
pete092775 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 WELL ONE THING IS FOR SURE NEDERLAND WILL LOSE ONE OUT OF THE NEXT TWO GAMES. INTELLECT HELL HOW HARD IS IT TO PUT A 9.39 INCH BALL IN A 18 INCH HOOP. MAYBE SOMEONE CAN REFRESH ME ON THE OZEN AND NEDERLAND SCORE WAS THAT A BLOW OUT. AND IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER HOW YOU DO IN DISTRICT ITS HOW YOU DO AFTER DISTRICT PLAY THAT SEPERATES THE REAL TEAMS.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="stevenash" post="1170637" timestamp="1328210891"][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170623#msg1170623 date=1328210447][quote author=stevenash link=topic=95269.msg1170607#msg1170607 date=1328210120][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170601#msg1170601 date=1328210066]You can make all the adjustments you want to, if players don't get it, well..........................[/quote]Don't get it? Isn't that where intellect comes into play. Be assured that Nederland will not take an intellectual back seat to anyone.[/quote]Nothing to do with intellect; as much as the discipline to want to do it the coach's way.[/quote]I simply say that having that discipline comes from the mental capability to understand why it should be that way and to accept it without question[/quote]Why must you try and always want to have the last word? It ain't gonna happen unless I deem it so :D
stevenash Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1170643" timestamp="1328210989"][quote author=stevenash link=topic=95269.msg1170637#msg1170637 date=1328210891][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170623#msg1170623 date=1328210447][quote author=stevenash link=topic=95269.msg1170607#msg1170607 date=1328210120][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170601#msg1170601 date=1328210066]You can make all the adjustments you want to, if players don't get it, well..........................[/quote]Don't get it? Isn't that where intellect comes into play. Be assured that Nederland will not take an intellectual back seat to anyone.[/quote]Nothing to do with intellect; as much as the discipline to want to do it the coach's way.[/quote]I simply say that having that discipline comes from the mental capability to understand why it should be that way and to accept it without question[/quote]Why must you try and always want to have the last word? It ain't gonna happen unless I deem it so :D[/quote]OK - Discipline is instinctive and mental acumen plays no part in the game of basketball.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="stevenash" post="1170650" timestamp="1328211180"][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170643#msg1170643 date=1328210989][quote author=stevenash link=topic=95269.msg1170637#msg1170637 date=1328210891][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170623#msg1170623 date=1328210447][quote author=stevenash link=topic=95269.msg1170607#msg1170607 date=1328210120][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170601#msg1170601 date=1328210066]You can make all the adjustments you want to, if players don't get it, well..........................[/quote]Don't get it? Isn't that where intellect comes into play. Be assured that Nederland will not take an intellectual back seat to anyone.[/quote]Nothing to do with intellect; as much as the discipline to want to do it the coach's way.[/quote]I simply say that having that discipline comes from the mental capability to understand why it should be that way and to accept it without question[/quote]Why must you try and always want to have the last word? It ain't gonna happen unless I deem it so :D[/quote]OK - Discipline is instinctive and mental acumen plays no part in the game of basketball.[/quote]No, I'm all about the mental side and discipline is PHYSICAL :P
CThoops Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="pete092775" post="1170641" timestamp="1328210961"]WELL ONE THING IS FOR SURE NEDERLAND WILL LOSE ONE OUT OF THE NEXT TWO GAMES. INTELLECT HELL HOW HARD IS IT TO PUT A 9.39 INCH BALL IN A 18 INCH HOOP[b]. MAYBE SOMEONE CAN REFRESH ME ON THE OZEN AND NEDERLAND SCORE WAS THAT A BLOW OUT[/b]. AND IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER HOW YOU DO IN DISTRICT ITS HOW YOU DO AFTER DISTRICT PLAY THAT SEPERATES THE REAL TEAMS.[/quote]I think the Thread is asking about Nederland vs Central predictions, so I showed the score from the first meeting
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