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[quote name="NB-Dawg" post="1173147" timestamp="1328565886"]
[quote author=longhornmiked link=topic=95532.msg1173114#msg1173114 date=1328562315]
Joel Lafleur PN-G (89-92)
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I remember LaFleur droppin' 50 a couple of times.
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When Lafleur was a freshman and Straface was a senior, Lafleur had to bring the ball down the court against Lincoln’s full court press because Straface could not handle the ball as well.  Straface was a very good shooter but not the all around player Lafleur was. 
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[quote name="longhornmiked" post="1173150" timestamp="1328566551"]
[quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95532.msg1173147#msg1173147 date=1328565886]
[quote author=longhornmiked link=topic=95532.msg1173114#msg1173114 date=1328562315]
Joel Lafleur PN-G (89-92)
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I remember LaFleur droppin' 50 a couple of times.
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When Lafleur was a freshman and Straface was a senior, Lafleur had to
bring the ball down the court against Lincoln’s full court press because Straface could not handle the ball as well.  Straface was a very good shooter but not the all around player Lafleur was.
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That may be true, but this thread is not about who is a better player than the next guy, it is about who is considered to be clutch players. And I believe they were both clutch players.
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[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1173122" timestamp="1328563943"]
[quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95532.msg1173027#msg1173027 date=1328556626]
Derrick Daniels - FW Dunbar 89
Eric Morris - Houston Madison 89
Stephen Jackson - PA Lincoln 96
Eddie Cumbo - Houston Wheatley 85
Daniel Gibson - Houston Jones 04
Daniel Ewing - Sugarland Willowridge 01
Immanuel McElroy - PA Lincoln 98
BJ Tyler - PA Lincoln 89
Antonio Falu - Houston Waltrip 98
Damon Sweet - Beaumont Central 88
Elmer Bennett - Houston Bellaire 88

Just to name a few...  :D
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Waste a few of those guys on Waltrip closer to 21 than 18?
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He was not quite 21, when they won state, but he was an 18 year old junior, which caused problems the next year for him....He could really play nonetheless.

[quote author=stevenash link=topic=95532.msg1173113#msg1173113 date=1328562152]
Point guard named Hunter at Houston Kashmere.  Been quite a while back but he was amazing and I have never seen anyone like him since.
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Yeah he was a good one...goes by the name BLUEDOVE3 now and he cost my dad a state title by getting injured in a PLAYOFF WARM UP GAME!!!! >:( >:(... ;D ;D
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[quote name="east texas bb" post="1173116" timestamp="1328562527"]
Stanley Bonewitz Jr.- San Antonio East Central
Troy House-Ingram Moore
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IMO, House was an overrated player. That guy shot an average of 28 to sometimes 40 times a game! You shoot that many times, you are bound to average 30 or more a game like he did.  ::)
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[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1173175" timestamp="1328567626"]
[quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=95532.msg1173122#msg1173122 date=1328563943]
[quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95532.msg1173027#msg1173027 date=1328556626]
Derrick Daniels - FW Dunbar 89
Eric Morris - Houston Madison 89
Stephen Jackson - PA Lincoln 96
Eddie Cumbo - Houston Wheatley 85
Daniel Gibson - Houston Jones 04
Daniel Ewing - Sugarland Willowridge 01
Immanuel McElroy - PA Lincoln 98
BJ Tyler - PA Lincoln 89
Antonio Falu - Houston Waltrip 98
Damon Sweet - Beaumont Central 88
Elmer Bennett - Houston Bellaire 88

Just to name a few...  :D
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Waste a few of those guys on Waltrip closer to 21 than 18?
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He was not quite 21, when they won state, but he was an 18 year old junior, which caused problems the next year for him....He could really play nonetheless.

[quote author=stevenash link=topic=95532.msg1173113#msg1173113 date=1328562152]
Point guard named Hunter at Houston Kashmere.  Been quite a while back but he was amazing and I have never seen anyone like him since.
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Yeah he was a good one...goes by the name BLUEDOVE3 now and he cost my dad a state title by getting injured in a PLAYOFF WARM UP GAME!!!! >:( >:(... ;D ;D
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Very few people realize that he was drafted (the old territorial rights) straight out of high school by the Spurs but spurned their offer in order to pursue his chosen career.  Not many with the discipline to pass up big$ and stardom in order to properly raise a family.
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[quote name="vp32" post="1173226" timestamp="1328577297"]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95532.msg1173003#msg1173003 date=1328555720]
Brooks Ybarra - Barbers Hill
R. Donahoe - H-J
[b]Noah Cole - Vidor[/b]
Ashton Hall - Kountze
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OMG i almost forgot about him. I played with that dude in high school and years before. He was the best shooter i've seen come through Vidor
in a while.
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I would have to go with George Williamson as being Mr. Clutch for Vidor. When the game was on the line, there was no doubt Coach English was going to him.
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[quote name="NB-Dawg" post="1173228" timestamp="1328577450"]
[quote author=vp32 link=topic=95532.msg1173226#msg1173226 date=1328577297]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95532.msg1173003#msg1173003 date=1328555720]
Brooks Ybarra - Barbers Hill
R. Donahoe - H-J
[b]Noah Cole - Vidor[/b]
Ashton Hall - Kountze
[/quote]
OMG i almost forgot about him. I played with that dude in high school and years before. He was the best shooter i've seen come through Vidor
in a while.
[/quote]
I would have to go with George Williamson as being Mr. Clutch for Vidor. When the game was on the line, there was no doubt Coach English was going to him.
[/quote]
He was after George. He was only a sophomore when George was a senior. And if i remember right Cole was not to far behind Williamson on the ppg.
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[quote name="vp32" post="1173234" timestamp="1328577867"]
[quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95532.msg1173228#msg1173228 date=1328577450]
[quote author=vp32 link=topic=95532.msg1173226#msg1173226 date=1328577297]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95532.msg1173003#msg1173003 date=1328555720]
Brooks Ybarra - Barbers Hill
R. Donahoe - H-J
[b]Noah Cole - Vidor[/b]
Ashton Hall - Kountze
[/quote]
OMG i almost forgot about him. I played with that dude in high school and years before. He was the best shooter i've seen come through Vidor
in a while.
[/quote]
I would have to go with George Williamson as being Mr. Clutch for Vidor. When the game was on the line, there was no doubt Coach English was going to him.
[/quote]
He was after George. He was only a sophomore when George was a senior. And if i remember right Cole was not to far behind Williamson on the ppg.
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I remember Noah very well. Watched him play all 3 years. He was special in his own way, but when it comes to who I would want taking a last second shot to win a game, IMO, George is the man for that. I really don't think you can go wrong with either player.
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[quote name="NB-Dawg" post="1173243" timestamp="1328578860"]
[quote author=vp32 link=topic=95532.msg1173234#msg1173234 date=1328577867]
[quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95532.msg1173228#msg1173228 date=1328577450]
[quote author=vp32 link=topic=95532.msg1173226#msg1173226 date=1328577297]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95532.msg1173003#msg1173003 date=1328555720]
Brooks Ybarra - Barbers Hill
R. Donahoe - H-J
[b]Noah Cole - Vidor[/b]
Ashton Hall - Kountze
[/quote]
OMG i almost forgot about him. I played with that dude in high school and years before. He was the best shooter i've seen come through Vidor
in a while.
[/quote]
I would have to go with George Williamson as being Mr. Clutch for Vidor. When the game was on the line, there was no doubt Coach English was going to him.
[/quote]
He was after George. He was only a sophomore when George was a senior. And if i remember right Cole was not to far behind Williamson on the ppg.
[/quote]
I remember Noah very well. Watched him play all 3 years. He was special in his own way, but when it comes to who I would want taking a last second shot to win a game, IMO, George is the man for that. I really don't think you can go wrong with either player.
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True. Good point.
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[quote name="atb63" post="1173083" timestamp="1328559291"]
Earl Evans, P.A. Lincoln.  6'8" tall and could play all 5 positions.
Earl had many, many, clutch games and did things that boggled the mind.
No 2 ranked High School player in the Nation behind none other than Moses Malone.
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No one even close to Earl. What a player.
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[quote name="vp32" post="1173226" timestamp="1328577297"]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95532.msg1173003#msg1173003 date=1328555720]
Brooks Ybarra - Barbers Hill
R. Donahoe - H-J
[b]Noah Cole - Vidor[/b]
Ashton Hall - Kountze
[/quote]
OMG i almost forgot about him. I played with that dude in high school and years before. He was the best shooter i've seen come through Vidor in a while.
[/quote]Yes, Cole was a starting underclassmen on that senior laden Vidor team that Beat Ozen 3 times in 1 year.  After all of those seniors left, Cole came into his own as a clutch player.  Although that team really wasn't as good as the year before, Cole commanded attention close to the end of games.
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[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1173314" timestamp="1328617841"]
[quote author=vp32 link=topic=95532.msg1173226#msg1173226 date=1328577297]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95532.msg1173003#msg1173003 date=1328555720]
Brooks Ybarra - Barbers Hill
R. Donahoe - H-J
[b]Noah Cole - Vidor[/b]
Ashton Hall - Kountze
[/quote]
OMG i almost forgot about him. I played with that dude in high school and years before. He was the best shooter i've seen come through Vidor in a while.
[/quote]Yes, Cole was a starting underclassmen on that senior laden Vidor team that Beat Ozen 3 times in 1 year.  After all of those seniors left, Cole came into his own as a clutch player.  Although that team really wasn't as good as the year before, Cole commanded attention close to
the end of games.
[/quote]
Noah did not start on the team who beat Ozen 3 times in 2004, but he did come off the bench for quality minutes. George did not even start on that team as a Junior until later that season. Vidor made the playoffs in Noah's Soph and JR seasons but fell one game short of the playoffs his senior year. He did not have a lot of help his Senior year.
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[quote name="NB-Dawg" post="1173432" timestamp="1328632180"]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95532.msg1173314#msg1173314 date=1328617841]
[quote author=vp32 link=topic=95532.msg1173226#msg1173226 date=1328577297]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95532.msg1173003#msg1173003 date=1328555720]
Brooks Ybarra - Barbers Hill
R. Donahoe - H-J
[b]Noah Cole - Vidor[/b]
Ashton Hall - Kountze
[/quote]
OMG i almost forgot about him. I played with that dude in high school and years before. He was the best shooter i've seen come through Vidor in a while.
[/quote]Yes, Cole was a starting underclassmen on that senior laden Vidor team that Beat Ozen 3 times in 1 year.  After all of those seniors left, Cole came into his own as a clutch player.  Although that team really wasn't as good as the year before, Cole commanded attention close to
the end of games.
[/quote]
Noah did not start on the team who beat Ozen 3 times in 2004, but he did come off the bench for quality minutes. George did not even start on that team as a Junior until later that season. Vidor made the playoffs in Noah's Soph and JR seasons but fell one game short of the playoffs his senior year. He did not have a lot of help his Senior year.
[/quote]

MUST you put emphasis on "the team that beat Ozen 3 times in 2004"? ::) ::) ::) 8)
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[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1173440" timestamp="1328633466"]
[quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95532.msg1173432#msg1173432 date=1328632180]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95532.msg1173314#msg1173314 date=1328617841]
[quote author=vp32 link=topic=95532.msg1173226#msg1173226 date=1328577297]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95532.msg1173003#msg1173003 date=1328555720]
Brooks Ybarra - Barbers Hill
R. Donahoe - H-J
[b]Noah Cole - Vidor[/b]
Ashton Hall - Kountze
[/quote]
OMG i almost forgot about him. I played with that dude in high school and years before. He was the best shooter i've seen come through Vidor in a while.
[/quote]Yes, Cole was a starting underclassmen on that senior laden Vidor team that Beat Ozen 3 times in 1 year.  After all of those seniors left, Cole came into his own as a clutch player.  Although that team really wasn't as good as the year before, Cole commanded attention close to
the end of games.
[/quote]
Noah did not start on the team who beat Ozen 3 times in 2004, but he did come off the bench for quality minutes. George did not even start on that team as a Junior until later that season. Vidor made the playoffs in Noah's Soph and JR seasons but fell one game short of the playoffs his senior year. He did not have a lot of help his Senior year.
[/quote]

MUST you put emphasis on "the team that beat Ozen 3 times in 2004"? ::) ::) ::) 8)
[/quote]You have to.  That's what that team will be remembered for.  Back then, Ozen will still OZEN.  8)
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[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1173440" timestamp="1328633466"]
[quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95532.msg1173432#msg1173432 date=1328632180]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95532.msg1173314#msg1173314 date=1328617841]
[quote author=vp32 link=topic=95532.msg1173226#msg1173226 date=1328577297]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95532.msg1173003#msg1173003 date=1328555720]
Brooks Ybarra - Barbers Hill
R. Donahoe - H-J
[b]Noah Cole - Vidor[/b]
Ashton Hall - Kountze
[/quote]
OMG i almost forgot about him. I played with that dude in high school and years before. He was the best shooter i've seen come through Vidor in a while.
[/quote]Yes, Cole was a starting underclassmen on that senior laden Vidor team that Beat Ozen 3 times in 1 year.  After all of those seniors left, Cole came into his own as a clutch player.  Although that team really wasn't as good as the year before, Cole commanded attention close to
the end of games.
[/quote]
Noah did not start on the team who beat Ozen 3 times in 2004, but he did come off the bench for quality minutes. George did not even start on that team as a Junior until later that season. Vidor made the playoffs in Noah's Soph and JR seasons but fell one game short of the playoffs his senior year. He did not have a lot of help his Senior year.
[/quote]

MUST you put emphasis on "the team that beat Ozen 3 times in 2004"? ::) ::) ::) 8)
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Just stating the facts!  ;D
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[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1173440" timestamp="1328633466"]
[quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95532.msg1173432#msg1173432 date=1328632180]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95532.msg1173314#msg1173314 date=1328617841]
[quote author=vp32 link=topic=95532.msg1173226#msg1173226 date=1328577297]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95532.msg1173003#msg1173003 date=1328555720]
Brooks Ybarra - Barbers Hill
R. Donahoe - H-J
[b]Noah Cole - Vidor[/b]
Ashton Hall - Kountze
[/quote]
OMG i almost forgot about him. I played with that dude in high school and years before. He was the best shooter i've seen come through Vidor in a while.
[/quote]Yes, Cole was a starting underclassmen on that senior laden Vidor team that Beat Ozen 3 times in 1 year.  After all of those seniors left, Cole came into his own as a clutch player.  Although that team really wasn't as good as the year before, Cole commanded attention close to
the end of games.
[/quote]
Noah did not start on the team who beat Ozen 3 times in 2004, but he did come off the bench for quality minutes. George did not even start on that team as a Junior until later that season. Vidor made the playoffs in Noah's Soph and JR seasons but fell one game short of the playoffs his senior year. He did not have a lot of help his Senior year.
[/quote]

MUST you put emphasis on "the team that beat Ozen 3 times in 2004"? ::) ::) ::) 8)
[/quote]
Truth hurts dickie  8)
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