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[quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=95544.msg1174505#msg1174505 date=1328728646]
What staff is trying to not play? Second place really wouldn't be that bad considering how good the entire region is anyway.
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We wont know officially for a week or two, but I will give you two guesses.
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I heard it was someone from your side of the mountain. Since there are only 2 district games left, I should be able to find out by next Wednesday I hope. I'd flip the coin!
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So if you were the coach and were faced with either playing or conceding, what would you do?

[Gladtobehere]

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[quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=95544.msg1174583#msg1174583 date=1328735875]
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[quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=95544.msg1174505#msg1174505 date=1328728646]
What staff is trying to not play? Second place really wouldn't be that bad considering how good the entire region is anyway.
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We wont know officially for a week or two, but I will give you two guesses.
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I heard it was someone from your side of the mountain. Since there are only 2 district games left, I should be able to find out by next Wednesday I hope. I'd flip the coin!
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So if you were the coach and were faced with either playing or conceding, what would you do?
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Concede, there is nothing to gain and you are still district co-champs regardless.....JMO...you don't risk an injury just for seeding in this case?

[stevenash]

[quote name="Gladtobehere" post="1174616" timestamp="1328739699"]
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[quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=95544.msg1174583#msg1174583 date=1328735875]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=95544.msg1174511#msg1174511 date=1328729518]
[quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=95544.msg1174505#msg1174505 date=1328728646]
What staff is trying to not play? Second place really wouldn't be that bad considering how good the entire region is anyway.
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We wont know officially for a week or two, but I will give you two guesses.
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I heard it was someone from your side of the mountain. Since there are only 2 district games left, I should be able to find out by next Wednesday I hope. I'd flip the coin!
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So if you were the coach and were faced with either playing or conceding, what would you do?
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Concede, there is nothing to gain and you are still district co-champs regardless.....JMO...you don't risk an injury just for seeding in this case?
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You run the same injury risk in a warm up game.

[BLUEDOVE3]

or practice

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[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1174628" timestamp="1328740828"]
or practice
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Which is why I believe they ought to play because they cant get that calibre of competition/preparation anywhere else in this area.

[BADSANTA]

I'd say not to play

[jam14]

just play down at lamar so all of setx can fit lol

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1174642" timestamp="1328742046"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95544.msg1174628#msg1174628 date=1328740828]
or practice
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Which is why I believe they ought to play because they cant get that calibre of competition/preparation anywhere else in [b]this area.[/b]
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I would agree. But who says one couldn't go outside the area? ;)

Also, because of some particular match ups, a team may look to play a certain type team to help them prepare for that particular match up.

[BADSANTA]

Silsbee should play Ozen, Nederland, or Central. Last years Kountze game wasn't a warm up but a practice!

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[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1174674" timestamp="1328748290"]
Silsbee should play Ozen, Nederland, or Central. Last years Kountze game wasn't a warm up but a practice!
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And what is it that those teams offer, from a preparation standpoint, that HJ does not? (particularly since HJ beat two of the three)

[ST413]

All of this talk of a possible tie breaker game between the Tigers and Hawks is jumping the gun a little with both teams having a couple games to play.  This year it appears there will be not much benefit to either route to Austin.  The only game that should be "easy" will be the first game for the second place team,  from that point on  each team will have to face a team that is quite capable of winning the region.  By the statements on here people can conclude that the Tiger coaches would rather just flip a coin than play the Hawks again.  There are many points to ponder.  One, would you rather have the bye in the first round or play and stay in that two game a week rhythm.  Some big points for the Tigers were brought forth by the game that this thread was about.  It is never hard for either HJ or the Tigers to get up to play each other, but at times it has been hard for the Tigers to get up to play other teams especially ones they expect to beat such as HF. Remember Coach Sigler was the coach of one of the best if not the best Tiger team who lost in the first round to a team they should have beaten so he definately wants to fix the focus issue. Another point, HF has a big man that gave the Tigers fits.  He is taller and longer than Persohn and a better shot blocker.  The Tigers may want to play someone who has a big man like that to work on some things.  Yet another,  the Tigers know HJ's style of play and may want to play someone with a style they haven't seen in a while to prepare for things they may face down the road.  Sure there aren't a lot of teams that either ould face that are better than what they could face in each other but I really don't see much benefit in it at this point. The Tigers have already proven they can beat the Hawks, they don't need to prove to themselves that they can.  I will have no problem if it comes down to Coach Sigler conceding the top seed to the Hawks.  And for you Hawk fans may question it.  That question can be answered the same way questions about your "weak" schedule were answered.  Who knows how best to prepare the Tigers for the playoffs?  ....the Tiger coaches not the fans.

[Honest Abe]

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1174674" timestamp="1328748290"]
Silsbee should play Ozen, Nederland, or Central. Last years Kountze game wasn't a warm up but a practice!
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Depends on what kind of team they may face in round two or three, and the other school would agree if they were to face a team like Silsbee. I don't know of any team's in 4A who play like Silsbee, except Yates. None of our local 4A schools will meet Yates until the Regional Semi's or Regional Finals, so it's unlikely that any of these schools would benefit from playing Silsbee. I could be wrong, but that's how I would look at it if I were a head coach.

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[quote name="ST413" post="1174698" timestamp="1328753576"]
All of this talk of a possible tie breaker game between the Tigers and Hawks is jumping the gun a little with both teams having a couple games to play.  This year it appears there will be not much benefit to either route to Austin.  The only game that should be "easy" will be the first game for the second place team,  from that point on  each team will have to face a team that is quite capable of winning the region.  By the statements on here people can conclude that the Tiger coaches would rather just flip a coin than play the Hawks again.  There are many points to ponder.  One, would you rather have the bye in the first round or play and stay in that two game a week rhythm.  Some big points for the Tigers were brought forth by the game that this thread was about.  It is never hard for either HJ or the Tigers to get up to play each other, but at times it has been hard for the Tigers to get up to play other teams especially ones they expect to beat such as HF. Remember Coach Sigler was the coach of one of the best if not the best Tiger team who lost in the first round to a team they should have beaten so he definately wants to fix the focus issue. Another point, HF has a big man that gave the Tigers fits.  He is taller and longer than Persohn and a better shot blocker.  The Tigers may want to play someone who has a big man like that to work on some things.  Yet another,  the Tigers know HJ's style of play and may want to play someone with a style they haven't seen in a while to prepare for things they may face down the road.  Sure there aren't a lot of teams that either ould face that are better than what they could face in each other but I really don't see much benefit in it at this point. The Tigers have already proven they can beat the Hawks, they don't need to prove to themselves that they can.  I will have no problem if it comes down to Coach Sigler conceding the top seed to the Hawks.  And for you Hawk fans may question it.  That question can be answered the same way questions about your "weak" schedule were answered.  Who knows how best to prepare the Tigers for the playoffs?  ....the Tiger coaches not the fans.
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I agree with you that Mr. Sigler is best qualified to decide what is most beneficial to Silsbee as far as preparing for the playoffs.  I just believe that both of those teams are a level above everyone else regardless of who beat who in the head to head series.(obviously it doesnt mean I am right)  If you are a believer that Silsbees tough schedule is what got them where they are, I believe that playing HJ again is the one way to perpetuate that theory because unless you find someone good nearby in a higher classification for a warm up game, I dont think you will find better competition.  Besides, Badsanta said it was Hj who would likely concede.

[AggiesAreWe]

I understand that Silsbee is wanting to play a select number of teams over in the Houston area with a dominant big. ;)

I also understand this to be very doable.  ;)

[ST413]

Well we all know how to take BadSanta....as a load of BS!!

[ST413]

You may not find better competition as far as a better team,  but you may find a good team with better challenges.  Good team with a true dominant big man or maybe a team that handles the ball very well that is very deliberate and will control the pace of the game.  I don't know but I know Coach Sigler has been looking for a team he feels will meet the Tiger's needs.  We have already faced the Hawks twice and probably got better each time  but I am sure Coach sees areas he feels we need work on that other teams may help us with more than HJ will especially that dominant big man. 

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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1174705" timestamp="1328754383"]
I understand that Silsbee is wanting to play a select number of teams over in the Houston area with a dominant big. ;)

I also understand this to be very doable.  ;)
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I may not be sufficiently in touch with what is out there in the playoffs.  What potential opponents in the first round or two have a dominant big man?  The only good one I have heard about plays at LaVega.

[BADSANTA]

[quote name="ST413" post="1174707" timestamp="1328754457"]
Well we all know how to take BadSanta....as a load of BS!!
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Really dude? I dont normally diss my fellow Tiger Alumni but I may have to warm the bus up on you. I dont live and die with Tiger basketball and can't follow the team over to Pizza Hut for a victory dinner after the game. I do know this, it's pointless to play HJ again. Houston has a number of ranked 4A teams who Silsbee would benefit playing. All those teams who I know Silsbee would like to play have a better front court than HJ and better overall talent. Size gives Silsbee problems not speed. HJ is no where near the biggest team in Region 3.

[BADSANTA]

Ricky Seals-Jones is the BEST big man in Region 3!

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[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1174718" timestamp="1328755663"]
Ricky Seals-Jones is the BEST big man in Region 3!
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I thought Silsbee already had experience playing against him,  I also heard that, other than Seals, the rest of the team is not that great.

[BADSANTA]

Last year Seals Jones was playing grown man basketball vs Silsbee. Had something like 26 points and 22 rebounds. Out played the entire Tiger team by himself.

[AggiesAreWe]

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[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=95544.msg1174705#msg1174705 date=1328754383]
I understand that Silsbee is wanting to play a select number of teams over in the Houston area with a dominant big. ;)

I also understand this to be very doable.  ;)
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I may not be sufficiently in touch with what is out there in the playoffs.  What potential opponents in the first round or two have a dominant big man?  The only good one I have heard about plays at LaVega.
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Sealy has a very dominant big in Ricky Seals-Jones and Brookshire Royal has two very good bigs, '6"7 and '6"6. Both were highly praised by Coach English of Nederland.

21-3A #1 seed would face Sealy in 2nd round, #2 seed would face Royal in 2nd round. Also, Smithville has a pretty good big.

[BADSANTA]

I think because of Silsbee's style of play, Brookshire would actually be a better match up. I have seen their big men play and they are very good, but the do walk a lot down court.

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1174719" timestamp="1328755745"]
[quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=95544.msg1174718#msg1174718 date=1328755663]
Ricky Seals-Jones is the BEST big man in Region 3!
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I thought Silsbee already had experience playing against him,  I also heard that, other than Seals, the rest of the team is not that great.
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Yes, Silsbee did play Sealy last year. Look what playing the likes of HJ twice in district and Kountze in the warm up did for them in that game.  ;)

Obviously Silsbee is looking to tackle their weakness by wanting to prepare themselves for those type match ups. Those match ups have troubled the Tigers most of the year.

[ST413]

He did play a great game last year but it was the other guy that made the difference.  Don't remember who it was.  As far as who else has one,  I don't know either.  But I am sure Coach Sigler isn't just concerning himself for the first couple of rounds but anyone the Tigers could meet all the way to the state finals if they are fortunate enough to get there.