Congrats to HJ on a Co-District Championship

[stevenash]

Even though our schedule is weak?

[ST413]

[quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=96046.msg1180199#msg1180199 date=1329516698]
you know.....Its great to be a Hawk.....I really feel for those who are less fortunate.... ;D
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whenever I see a hawk I think its just like other birds, well mainly chickens and we all know they eat their own poop.

[PoppaBearstarr]

[quote name="ST413" post="1180243" timestamp="1329521536"]
[quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=96046.msg1180199#msg1180199 date=1329516698]
you know.....Its great to be a Hawk.....I really feel for those who are less fortunate.... ;D
[/quote

whenever I see a hawk I think its just like other birds, well mainly chickens and we all know they eat their own poop.
[/quote]


Stay on your own thread scaredy cat...

[PoppaBearstarr]

Next time the hawk poops on your head, don't be mad, just realize its that maroon hat with that ugly burnt orange undershirt that set him off...

[ST413]

Ugly is maroon when you put a t,a and a m on it!!

[PoppaBearstarr]

Nope.. It when it has "S" here on it....

[FanintheStands]

[quote name="ST413" post="1180243" timestamp="1329521536"]
[quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=96046.msg1180199#msg1180199 date=1329516698]
you know.....Its great to be a Hawk.....I really feel for those who are less fortunate.... ;D
[/quote

whenever I see a hawk I think its just like other birds, well mainly chickens and we all know they eat their own poop.
[/quote]... and a Cat licks his own.... well, you know.  :o

[ST413]

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="1180307" timestamp="1329527393"]
[quote author=ST413 link=topic=96046.msg1180243#msg1180243 date=1329521536]
[quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=96046.msg1180199#msg1180199 date=1329516698]
you know.....Its great to be a Hawk.....I really feel for those who are less fortunate.... ;D
[/quote

whenever I see a hawk I think its just like other birds, well mainly chickens and we all know they eat their own poop.
[/quote]... and a Cat licks his own.... well, you know.  :o
[/quote]

In the words of Paul Rodriquez "If........" ;D

[FanintheStands]

[quote name="ST413" post="1180353" timestamp="1329529719"]
[quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=96046.msg1180307#msg1180307 date=1329527393]
[quote author=ST413 link=topic=96046.msg1180243#msg1180243 date=1329521536]
[quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=96046.msg1180199#msg1180199 date=1329516698]
you know.....Its great to be a Hawk.....I really feel for those who are less fortunate.... ;D
[/quote]

whenever I see a hawk I think its just like other birds, well mainly chickens and we all know they eat their own poop.
[/quote]... and a Cat licks his own.... well, you know.  :o
[/quote]

In the words of Paul Rodriquez "If........" ;D
[/quote]Is it something like, "Those that can, do"?

I'm thinking, "just because you can, doesn't mean you should...."  ::)

[ST413]

Definately....

[Lazeek]

I am still trying to figure out how this is a "weak schedule"

Kountze (26-8 1st Place District)
Nederland (27-7 Co-Champs with Central)
Beaumont Central (21-9 Co-Champs with Nederland)
Port Lavaca Calhoun (28-4 1st Place District--Ranked as high as #21)
Corpus Christi Calallen (14-15 2nd Place Behind CC Ray)
Kingwood Park (24-11 2nd Place District Behind Humble)
Jacksonville (24-8 2nd Place District Behind Tyler)
LC-M (4 Times) (19-15 4th Place District)
Silsbee (2 Times) (23-7 Co-Champs with HJ) 3A #5 Ranked Team

Is it as strong as some teams, no!!!  But it is far from weak!!!!  12-1 in those 13 games.  Only loss at Silsbee by 3 points.  There are no more or no less weak teams on HJ's schedule than anyone else's!!!!  No world beaters on there either!!!  But non-district wins over good solid 4A teams and a solid 2A team in Kountze.

[LOKI]

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1180420" timestamp="1329533595"]
I am still trying to figure out how this is a "weak schedule"

Kountze (26-8 1st Place District)
Nederland (27-7 Co-Champs with Central)
Beaumont Central (21-9 Co-Champs with Nederland)
Port Lavaca Calhoun (28-4 1st Place District--Ranked as high as #21)
Corpus Christi Calallen (14-15 2nd Place Behind CC Ray)
Kingwood Park (24-11 2nd Place District Behind Humble)
Jacksonville (24-8 2nd Place District Behind Tyler)
LC-M (4 Times) (19-15 4th Place District)
Silsbee (2 Times) (23-7 Co-Champs with HJ) 3A #5 Ranked Team

Is it as strong as some teams, no!!!  But it is far from weak!!!!  12-1 in those 13 games.  Only loss at Silsbee by 3 points.  There are no more or no less weak teams on HJ's schedule than anyone else's!!!!  No world beaters on there either!!!  But non-district wins over good solid 4A teams and a solid 2A team in Kountze.
[/quote]Well with all the weak opponents HJ has played this year. It sure has generated alot of discussion from others.  ;)  :D ;D

[stevenash]

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1180420" timestamp="1329533595"]
I am still trying to figure out how this is a "weak schedule"

Kountze (26-8 1st Place District)
Nederland (27-7 Co-Champs with Central)
Beaumont Central (21-9 Co-Champs with Nederland)
Port Lavaca Calhoun (28-4 1st Place District--Ranked as high as #21)
Corpus Christi Calallen (14-15 2nd Place Behind CC Ray)
Kingwood Park (24-11 2nd Place District Behind Humble)
Jacksonville (24-8 2nd Place District Behind Tyler)
LC-M (4 Times) (19-15 4th Place District)
Silsbee (2 Times) (23-7 Co-Champs with HJ) 3A #5 Ranked Team

Is it as strong as some teams, no!!!  But it is far from weak!!!!  12-1 in those 13 games.  Only loss at Silsbee by 3 points.  There are no more or no less weak teams on HJ's schedule than anyone else's!!!!  No world beaters on there either!!!  But non-district wins over good solid 4A teams and a solid 2A team in Kountze.
[/quote]

The schedule is not and never has been the problem in reality.  Some feel the need to find a way to discredit a situation that they resent or envy, particularly if it is exceeding expectations. If you can't attack the won-loss record, the schedule is the next logical step.  If for some reason that fails, then, even though it is quite a bit less credible, you will hear things like " the refs give them preferential treatment", or "their old coach is in the UIL"  yadda, yadda, yadda.  Bottom line is, if you are winning, you will always face some detractors and nothing can be done about that. 

[Lazeek]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1180437" timestamp="1329534498"]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=96046.msg1180420#msg1180420 date=1329533595]
I am still trying to figure out how this is a "weak schedule"

Kountze (26-8 1st Place District)
Nederland (27-7 Co-Champs with Central)
Beaumont Central (21-9 Co-Champs with Nederland)
Port Lavaca Calhoun (28-4 1st Place District--Ranked as high as #21)
Corpus Christi Calallen (14-15 2nd Place Behind CC Ray)
Kingwood Park (24-11 2nd Place District Behind Humble)
Jacksonville (24-8 2nd Place District Behind Tyler)
LC-M (4 Times) (19-15 4th Place District)
Silsbee (2 Times) (23-7 Co-Champs with HJ) 3A #5 Ranked Team

Is it as strong as some teams, no!!!  But it is far from weak!!!!  12-1 in those 13 games.  Only loss at Silsbee by 3 points.  There are no more or no less weak teams on HJ's schedule than anyone else's!!!!  No world beaters on there either!!!  But non-district wins over good solid 4A teams and a solid 2A team in Kountze.
[/quote]

The schedule is not and never has been the problem in reality.  Some feel the need to find a way to discredit a situation that they resent or envy, particularly if it is exceeding expectations. If you can't attack the won-loss record, the schedule is the next logical step.  If for some reason that fails, then, even though it is quite a bit less credible, you will hear things like " the refs give them preferential treatment", or "their old coach is in the UIL"  yadda, yadda, yadda.  Bottom line is, if you are winning, you will always face some detractors and nothing can be done about that.
[/quote]

;D ;D ;D

[FanintheStands]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1180437" timestamp="1329534498"]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=96046.msg1180420#msg1180420 date=1329533595]
I am still trying to figure out how this is a "weak schedule"

Kountze (26-8 1st Place District)
Nederland (27-7 Co-Champs with Central)
Beaumont Central (21-9 Co-Champs with Nederland)
Port Lavaca Calhoun (28-4 1st Place District--Ranked as high as #21)
Corpus Christi Calallen (14-15 2nd Place Behind CC Ray)
Kingwood Park (24-11 2nd Place District Behind Humble)
Jacksonville (24-8 2nd Place District Behind Tyler)
LC-M (4 Times) (19-15 4th Place District)
Silsbee (2 Times) (23-7 Co-Champs with HJ) 3A #5 Ranked Team

Is it as strong as some teams, no!!!  But it is far from weak!!!!  12-1 in those 13 games.  Only loss at Silsbee by 3 points.  There are no more or no less weak teams on HJ's schedule than anyone else's!!!!  No world beaters on there either!!!  But non-district wins over good solid 4A teams and a solid 2A team in Kountze.
[/quote]

The schedule is not and never has been the problem in reality.  Some feel the need to find a way to discredit a situation that they resent or envy, particularly if it is exceeding expectations. If you can't attack the won-loss record, the schedule is the next logical step.  If for some reason that fails, then, even though it is quite a bit less credible, you will hear things like " the refs give them preferential treatment", or "their old coach is in the UIL"  yadda, yadda, yadda.  Bottom line is, if you are winning, you will always face some detractors and nothing can be done about that.
[/quote].... or the ever popular, "Well, they hijack every thread!" :D

[Dick Vitale]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1180437" timestamp="1329534498"]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=96046.msg1180420#msg1180420 date=1329533595]
I am still trying to figure out how this is a "weak schedule"

Kountze (26-8 1st Place District)
Nederland (27-7 Co-Champs with Central)
Beaumont Central (21-9 Co-Champs with Nederland)
Port Lavaca Calhoun (28-4 1st Place District--Ranked as high as #21)
Corpus Christi Calallen (14-15 2nd Place Behind CC Ray)
Kingwood Park (24-11 2nd Place District Behind Humble)
Jacksonville (24-8 2nd Place District Behind Tyler)
LC-M (4 Times) (19-15 4th Place District)
Silsbee (2 Times) (23-7 Co-Champs with HJ) 3A #5 Ranked Team

Is it as strong as some teams, no!!!  But it is far from weak!!!!  12-1 in those 13 games.  Only loss at Silsbee by 3 points.  There are no more or no less weak teams on HJ's schedule than anyone else's!!!!  No world beaters on there either!!!  But non-district wins over good solid 4A teams and a solid 2A team in Kountze.
[/quote]

The schedule is not and never has been the problem in reality.  Some feel the need to find a way to discredit a situation that they resent or envy, particularly if it is exceeding expectations. If you can't attack the won-loss record, the schedule is the next logical step.  If for some reason that fails, then, even though it is quite a bit less credible, you will hear things like " the refs give them preferential treatment", or "their old coach is in the UIL"  yadda, yadda, yadda.  Bottom line is, if you are winning, you will always face some detractors and nothing can be done about that. 
[/quote]
Seriously...you are right..but I think BLUEDOVE3 just likes to give you guys a hard time..I know he is one who can truly appreciate a good basketball program.  As far as the schedule goes, you can really only play the teams locally, for the most part, unless its an out of town tournament, and being that HJ was probably one of the top areas teams, they just have to play whoever they can get to line up in front of them...36-1 is hard to argue against.

[stevenash]

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1180447" timestamp="1329534952"]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=96046.msg1180437#msg1180437 date=1329534498]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=96046.msg1180420#msg1180420 date=1329533595]
I am still trying to figure out how this is a "weak schedule"

Kountze (26-8 1st Place District)
Nederland (27-7 Co-Champs with Central)
Beaumont Central (21-9 Co-Champs with Nederland)
Port Lavaca Calhoun (28-4 1st Place District--Ranked as high as #21)
Corpus Christi Calallen (14-15 2nd Place Behind CC Ray)
Kingwood Park (24-11 2nd Place District Behind Humble)
Jacksonville (24-8 2nd Place District Behind Tyler)
LC-M (4 Times) (19-15 4th Place District)
Silsbee (2 Times) (23-7 Co-Champs with HJ) 3A #5 Ranked Team

Is it as strong as some teams, no!!!  But it is far from weak!!!!  12-1 in those 13 games.  Only loss at Silsbee by 3 points.  There are no more or no less weak teams on HJ's schedule than anyone else's!!!!  No world beaters on there either!!!  But non-district wins over good solid 4A teams and a solid 2A team in Kountze.
[/quote]

The schedule is not and never has been the problem in reality.  Some feel the need to find a way to discredit a situation that they resent or envy, particularly if it is exceeding expectations. If you can't attack the won-loss record, the schedule is the next logical step.  If for some reason that fails, then, even though it is quite a bit less credible, you will hear things like " the refs give them preferential treatment", or "their old coach is in the UIL"  yadda, yadda, yadda.  Bottom line is, if you are winning, you will always face some detractors and nothing can be done about that. 
[/quote]
Seriously...you are right..but I think BLUEDOVE3 just likes to give you guys a hard time..I know he is one who can truly appreciate a good basketball program.  As far as the schedule goes, you can really only play the teams locally, for the most part, unless its an out of town tournament, and being that HJ was probably one of the top areas teams, they just have to play whoever they can get to line up in front of them...36-1 is hard to argue against.
[/quote]

Yes it is and that is why the schedule becomes the next logical target.  Funny thing is, if you beat all of the other teams who "allegedly (yes, allegedly) played a tougher schedule, you effectively beat every team that they beat.  As for the Dove, he will always play devils advocate and that is ok with me.

[BLUEDOVE3]

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