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[quote name="TX_RENEGADES" post="1181802" timestamp="1329838854"]
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[quote author=TX_RENEGADES link=topic=96232.msg1181288#msg1181288 date=1329756963]
[quote author=2 Sons Playing link=topic=96232.msg1181264#msg1181264 date=1329754814]
Some of you guys would censored and moan about anything.."they should have done this, I would have done this"..just stop you're not that important. let me give you a little history of what it's been like playing under Nations here the past 5 years. Most of the time you wouldn't find out till Thur or Fri if the tourney would fill at all, if it did then you either got to play the same 3 or 4 teams each time or was asked to play up an age bracket. 90% of all teams playing were local teams only. If you wanted to play other teams you had to got to Htown or LA to get that. USSSA 1st tourney has 68 teams signed up with less than a dozen being local. if you local teams want that to continue then I would suggest you start signing up for their tourneys and supporting an org that is trying to bring better teams to our park to play. Had Morgan been as proactive the past 5 years as he is this year, then this situation wouldn't have ever happened.

Now to clear up a few comments; The guy complaining about the director having a team, the Gladiators run the nations tourneys locally and have a team for every age bracket playing in all their tourneys..get  a clue.

[b]Renegades you chose to play up an age bracket at Nations instead of playing against teams in your own age bracket..please explaing to me how that is better for your players and what were the results from it?[/b]
As for how the tourney went this weekend, it was unfortunate about the weather on Sat but they did a great job of being fair to all teams. Sunday ended up being a great day to play, and I think most teams enjoyed themselves and will hopefully come back. Ford park is one of the best facilities around, I would prefer to play most of my games here against better teams. I hope you will support it so they can continue to build on what just started.
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Yeah I chose too after I was called on a week before about it. My team was 11u Elite at the time of that tournament now we are select(NATIONS). My team in USSSA is also AA and my kids are far from ready to play major and AAA teams, that why I pulled out of the tourney. You want to talk about results, yeah we got smashed 10-0,8-4 but I did it with LITTLE LEAGUE TALENT Kids playing against 12u SELECT kids. Im not talking down on anyone, We are new to the area and we all know it takes time for the kids to gel together. I have revamped my team since that tournament and added more pitching and Bigger bats so hopefully we are blessed that those outcomes will be different when we play up if we have too. I was told it would be hard to make a competitive team since ALL the talent was taken already, I just hope we dont catch anyone ASLEEP!
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TX_RENEGADES,

[b]Don't you also go by... "StrikeOut" on here[/b]?????? :o
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That would be a BIG 10-4!  :o
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aren't you suppose to be learning how to coach baseball for little league. Lol
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that would be another BIG 10-4
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That is good, and for the record I'm not strikeout. Lets don't ruined this topic on this. Strikeout is a renegade and had a few last night at our scrimmage
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[quote name="Scalp'em" post="1181243" timestamp="1329751556"]
I'm not bashing anyone on here, but how about just playing baseball. Who cares if a kid 9 is playing with 8's or all of these other issues. I know it's breaking rules, but in the grand scheme of things just play baseball. Too many people getting caught up in all of the other stuff. When I was contacted by both organizations, I told them my kids just want to play baseball. I don't care about USSSA or Nations. For me and my team, as long as the kids are having fun and getting better, that's all I care about. With that said, when I seen the open tournament for this past weekend, I felt that my team wasn't ready to play other teams two levels above them and pulled my team out weeks ago. Good luck to everyone this baseball season!
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WOW!!!!!!

You don't care that an 9 yr old plays against an 8 yr old team, I had to pick myself off the Floor. Yea, let's not get all caught up on the "Rules", rules are for whimps.

But, that kind of additude is expected from you after your "strategic Drafting" comments.

Each time you comment I see a little piece of your heart.



Can't wait to play your Team...... I'll make sure and add a 12 yr old to pitch against you since you don't care about the rules and just want your son to play ball..........



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Bobcat, your kids play elite and my team is select. If you feel like pitching a 12 year old that's fine with me. Whatever makes you feel better. Don't know what your deal is with me. I don't hardly know you. Never said my team was jaugernaut or elite, just a group kids wanting play baseball. I just Don't come on here complain about how I was wronged in a sporting event.

BTW, we've never been scared to play OF in football or BC in baseball. Quit trying to pick arguments.
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[quote author=AllSportsMom link=topic=96232.msg1181076#msg1181076 date=1329686437]
Different age groups are different time limits. Nothing wrong with director having a team. Most we've played in the director had @ least 1 team. I'm sure that dealing w/weather they made adjustments the best they could & dealing with odd number of teams some have to play more than once.
Hey ASM, you have been quiet on the baseball forum since you bashed your sons team couple years back on here, welcome back!
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[quote author=sportsfan2020 link=topic=96232.msg1180720#msg1180720 date=1329599397]
Games were always 1:20 before rain. Nations is 1:40. Forgot to mention tournament director is coaching a team too
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Nations games are not 1:40... Most directors have a team even in Nations.. ;)
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Every game I have played in Nations has been 1:40. I haven't coached younger than 11u though. Where have you played that the director was a coach? BTW, the local Nations guy runs an organization, and doesn't coach a team in any of his tournaments.

Hey Rounder, are you a player or a coach? Or, are you like a player manager?
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[quote author=sportsfan2020 link=topic=96232.msg1180720#msg1180720 date=1329599397]
Games were always 1:20 before rain. Nations is 1:40. Forgot to mention tournament director is coaching a team too
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Nations games are not 1:40... Most directors have a team even in Nations.. ;)
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Every game I have played in Nations has been 1:40. I haven't coached younger than 11u though. Where have you played that the director was a coach? BTW, the local Nations guy runs an organization, and doesn't coach a team in any of his tournaments.

Hey Rounder, are you a player or a coach? Or, are you like a player manager?
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Both, and I would love for you to step in the box when im pitching.
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[quote name="rounder17" post="1182421" timestamp="1329874700"]
[quote author=knucklehead link=topic=96232.msg1182245#msg1182245 date=1329868161]
[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=96232.msg1181148#msg1181148 date=1329708850]
[quote author=VP 93...... link=topic=96232.msg1181142#msg1181142 date=1329707970]
[quote author=sportsfan2020 link=topic=96232.msg1180720#msg1180720 date=1329599397]
Games were always 1:20 before rain. Nations is 1:40. Forgot to mention tournament director is coaching a team too
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Nations games are not 1:40... Most directors have a team even in Nations.. ;)
[/quote]

Every game I have played in Nations has been 1:40. I haven't coached younger than 11u though. Where have you played that the director was a coach? BTW, the local Nations guy runs an organization, and doesn't coach a team in any of his tournaments.

Hey Rounder, are you a player or a coach? Or, are you like a player manager?
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[u][i][b]Both, and I would love for you to step in the box when im pitching.[/b][/i][/u]

:D
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[quote author=knucklehead link=topic=96232.msg1182245#msg1182245 date=1329868161]
[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=96232.msg1181148#msg1181148 date=1329708850]
[quote author=VP 93...... link=topic=96232.msg1181142#msg1181142 date=1329707970]
[quote author=sportsfan2020 link=topic=96232.msg1180720#msg1180720 date=1329599397]
Games were always 1:20 before rain. Nations is 1:40. Forgot to mention tournament director is coaching a team too
[/quote]

Nations games are not 1:40... Most directors have a team even in Nations.. ;)
[/quote]

Every game I have played in Nations has been 1:40. I haven't coached younger than 11u though. Where have you played that the director was a coach? BTW, the local Nations guy runs an organization, and doesn't coach a team in any of his tournaments.

Hey Rounder, are you a player or a coach? Or, are you like a player manager?
[/quote]

Both, and I would love for you to step in the box when im pitching.
[/quote] I think that you will learn that you are a has been, just like the guy that you challange to step in the box. You two better just stick with the BEAST, keep good BS and call it a day.   
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[quote author=knucklehead link=topic=96232.msg1182245#msg1182245 date=1329868161]
[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=96232.msg1181148#msg1181148 date=1329708850]
[quote author=VP 93...... link=topic=96232.msg1181142#msg1181142 date=1329707970]
[quote author=sportsfan2020 link=topic=96232.msg1180720#msg1180720 date=1329599397]
Games were always 1:20 before rain. Nations is 1:40. Forgot to mention tournament director is coaching a team too
[/quote]

Nations games are not 1:40... Most directors have a team even in Nations.. ;)
[/quote]

Every game I have played in Nations has been 1:40. I haven't coached younger than 11u though. Where have you played that the director was a coach? BTW, the local Nations guy runs an organization, and doesn't coach a team in any of his tournaments.

Hey Rounder, are you a player or a coach? Or, are you like a player manager?
[/quote]

Both, and I would love for you to step in the box when im pitching.
[/quote] I think that you will learn that you are a has been, just like the guy that you challange to step in the box. You two better just stick with the BEAST, keep good BS and call it a day. 
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Lol. I can live with that, but I don't really like the BEAST, unlike you two. I think you meant to say that I am a BEAST. ;D
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[quote name="VP 93......" post="1183539" timestamp="1329984210"]
[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=96232.msg1183525#msg1183525 date=1329975016]
VP, is it true that you are a coach for one of Brian Tllerys' teams? Head or assistant.
[/quote] Nope...Tillery only has one team btw !!! 8aaa....
I coach 11aaa....
[/quote]

Oh ok, so you coach with Cansler then? Is he like Tillerys' partner or something, or just the assistant tournament director for usssa in Beaumont?
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[quote author=bunabaseball77 link=topic=96232.msg1183572#msg1183572 date=1330004718]
VP 93 - Robby Carter (Vipers  11u coach)[b]Yep you must of done your homework[/b]!!!
2 sons Playing - Juan Gonzales (Vipers 11u coach) [b]WRONG[/b]!!!!!!
MJB - Mike Bernard (Venom 9U)[b]Dont know about this one[/b]!!!

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[quote name="rounder17" post="1183593" timestamp="1330006999"]
[quote author=VP 93...... link=topic=96232.msg1183539#msg1183539 date=1329984210]
[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=96232.msg1183525#msg1183525 date=1329975016]
VP, is it true that you are a coach for one of Brian Tllerys' teams? Head or assistant.
[/quote] Nope...Tillery only has one team btw !!! 8aaa....
I coach 11aaa....
[/quote]

Oh ok, so you coach with Cansler then? Is he like Tillerys' partner or something, or just the assistant tournament director for usssa in Beaumont?
[/quote]

Yes, me and Cansler have been coaching for the past couple of years together!! The assistant director is a guy by the the name of Collin...where are your trying to go with this!! ???
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[quote name="VP 93......" post="1183599" timestamp="1330007355"]
[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=96232.msg1183593#msg1183593 date=1330006999]
[quote author=VP 93...... link=topic=96232.msg1183539#msg1183539 date=1329984210]
[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=96232.msg1183525#msg1183525 date=1329975016]
VP, is it true that you are a coach for one of Brian Tllerys' teams? Head or assistant.
[/quote] Nope...Tillery only has one team btw !!! 8aaa....
I coach 11aaa....
[/quote]

Oh ok, so you coach with Cansler then? Is he like Tillerys' partner or something, or just the assistant tournament director for usssa in Beaumont?
[/quote]

Yes, me and Cansler have been coaching for the past couple of years together!! The assistant director is a guy by the the name of Collin...where are your trying to go with this!! ???
[/quote]

Just trying to figure out why you guys are dogging nations and bringing Morgan Walker into it, and talking up usssa. It makes sense to me now that I know you guys have ties to Tillery. Also kind of weird that most of you have had a son that has played for the Gladiators in the past. Your post about "two sides to every story, and then there's the truth", makes a whole lot of sense now. You have obviously heard one side, but not the truth.
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[quote author=VP 93...... link=topic=96232.msg1183599#msg1183599 date=1330007355]
[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=96232.msg1183593#msg1183593 date=1330006999]
[quote author=VP 93...... link=topic=96232.msg1183539#msg1183539 date=1329984210]
[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=96232.msg1183525#msg1183525 date=1329975016]
VP, is it true that you are a coach for one of Brian Tllerys' teams? Head or assistant.
[/quote] Nope...Tillery only has one team btw !!! 8aaa....
I coach 11aaa....
[/quote]

Oh ok, so you coach with Cansler then? Is he like Tillerys' partner or something, or just the assistant tournament director for usssa in Beaumont?
[/quote]

Yes, me and Cansler have been coaching for the past couple of years together!! The assistant director is a guy by the the name of Collin...where are your trying to go with this!! ???
[/quote]

Just trying to figure out why you guys are dogging nations and bringing Morgan Walker into it, and talking up usssa. It makes sense to me now that I know you guys have ties to Tillery. Also kind of weird that most of you have had a son that has played for the Gladiators in the past. Your post about "two sides to every story, and then there's the truth", makes a whole lot of sense now. [b]You have obviously heard one side, but not the truth[/b].
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Let me guess, you know the truth?
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[quote name="VP 93......" post="1183633" timestamp="1330009338"]
[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=96232.msg1183626#msg1183626 date=1330008998]
[quote author=VP 93...... link=topic=96232.msg1183599#msg1183599 date=1330007355]
[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=96232.msg1183593#msg1183593 date=1330006999]
[quote author=VP 93...... link=topic=96232.msg1183539#msg1183539 date=1329984210]
[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=96232.msg1183525#msg1183525 date=1329975016]
VP, is it true that you are a coach for one of Brian Tllerys' teams? Head or assistant.
[/quote] Nope...Tillery only has one team btw !!! 8aaa....
I coach 11aaa....
[/quote]

Oh ok, so you coach with Cansler then? Is he like Tillerys' partner or something, or just the assistant tournament director for usssa in Beaumont?
[/quote]

Yes, me and Cansler have been coaching for the past couple of years together!! The assistant director is a guy by the the name of Collin...where are your trying to go with this!! ???
[/quote]

Just trying to figure out why you guys are dogging nations and bringing Morgan Walker into it, and talking up usssa. It makes sense to me now that I know you guys have ties to Tillery. Also kind of weird that most of you have had a son that has played for the Gladiators in the past. Your post about "two sides to every story, and then there's the truth", makes a whole lot of sense now. [b]You have obviously heard one side, but not the truth[/b].
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Let me guess, you know the truth?
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I know a lot more than you think. I know why yours and Tillerys' team are suspended by Nations. Should I tell you why, or are there 6 sides to that story?
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[quote author=VP 93...... link=topic=96232.msg1183633#msg1183633 date=1330009338]
[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=96232.msg1183626#msg1183626 date=1330008998]
[quote author=VP 93...... link=topic=96232.msg1183599#msg1183599 date=1330007355]
[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=96232.msg1183593#msg1183593 date=1330006999]
[quote author=VP 93...... link=topic=96232.msg1183539#msg1183539 date=1329984210]
[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=96232.msg1183525#msg1183525 date=1329975016]
VP, is it true that you are a coach for one of Brian Tllerys' teams? Head or assistant.
[/quote] Nope...Tillery only has one team btw !!! 8aaa....
I coach 11aaa....
[/quote]

Oh ok, so you coach with Cansler then? Is he like Tillerys' partner or something, or just the assistant tournament director for usssa in Beaumont?
[/quote]

Yes, me and Cansler have been coaching for the past couple of years together!! The assistant director is a guy by the the name of Collin...where are your trying to go with this!! ???
[/quote]

Just trying to figure out why you guys are dogging nations and bringing Morgan Walker into it, and talking up usssa. It makes sense to me now that I know you guys have ties to Tillery. Also kind of weird that most of you have had a son that has played for the Gladiators in the past. Your post about "two sides to every story, and then there's the truth", makes a whole lot of sense now. [b]You have obviously heard one side, but not the truth[/b].
[/quote]
Let me guess, you know the truth?
[/quote]

I know a lot more than you think. I know why yours and Tillerys' team are suspended by Nations. Should I tell you why, or are there 6 sides to that story?
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Tillerys team is suspended because he's a usssa director! Tillery has stated on serveral occasions that Morgan and anyone that plays Nations is more than welcome to come play usssa.. Can't say that about Nations can we... My team, well if its suspended thats the first I've heard about it. But that wouldn't surprise me one bit! It goes to show you who really does it for the kids and who does it to make a quick buck!!
Your not hurting the Coaches by suspending their team, your hurting the KIDS.......GOOD JOB NATIONS!!! 
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[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=96232.msg1183626#msg1183626 date=1330008998]
[quote author=VP 93...... link=topic=96232.msg1183599#msg1183599 date=1330007355]
[quote author=roundaer17 link=topic=96232.msg1183593#msg1183593 date=1330006999]
[quote author=VP 93...... link=topic=96232.msg1183539#msg1183539 date=1329984210]
[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=96232.msg1183525#msg1183525 date=1329975016]
VP, is it true that you are a coach for one of Brian Tllerys' teams? Head or assistant.
[/quote] Nope...Tillery only has one team btw !!! 8aaa....
I coach 11aaa....
[/quote]

Oh ok, so you coach with Cansler then? Is he like Tillerys' partner or something, or just the assistant tournament director for usssa in Beaumont?
[/quote]

Yes, me and Cansler have been coaching for the past couple of years together!! The assistant director is a guy by the the name of Collin...where are your trying to go with this!! ???
[/quote]

Just trying to figure out why you guys are dogging nations and bringing Morgan Walker into it, and talking up usssa. It makes sense to me now that I know you guys have ties to Tillery. Also kind of weird that most of you have had a son that has played for the Gladiators in the past. Your post about "two sides to every story, and then there's the truth", makes a whole lot of sense now. [b]You have obviously heard one side, but not the truth[/b].
[/quote]
Let me guess, you know the truth?
[/quote]

I know a lot more than you think. I know why yours and Tillerys' team are suspended by Nations. Should I tell you why, or are there 6 sides to that story?
[/quote]
Tillerys team is suspended because he's a usssa director! Tillery has stated on serveral occasions that Morgan and anyone that plays Nations is more than welcome to come play usssa.. Can't say that about Nations can we... My team, well if its suspended thats the first I've heard about it. But that wouldn't surprise me one bit! It goes to show you who really does it for the kids and who does it to make a quick buck!!
Your not hurting the Coaches by suspending their team, your hurting the KIDS.......GOOD JOB NATIONS!!!
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You really don't have clue. Your team is suspended from Nations, because your boys got caught handing out usssa flyers at a nations tournament in Houston. Ron Mathis didn't think too kindly of it, and suspended the teams, but im sure you thought Morgan suspended y'all.  Not so fast on the usssa does it for the kids speech. Joey Odom (a usssa Director in LA) sent out e-mails, threatening to suspend anyone who participates in Nations events, umpires, coaches, and KIDS (the ones you say they care about and do it for). Like I said before, I know A LOT more than you think. You can try to persuade these local teams all you want, but the TRUTH will always come out.
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Can someone explain to me why or how all this came about, cause I have heard different things and I just want to know,lol. I asked that question a few months ago and someone stated something about lawyers and little league and all this other stuff. But to me it sounds like BEAUMONT has its hands full with BASEBALL.......
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