SETXsports DIRTY DOZEN BASKETBALL RANKINGS, FINAL RANKINGS

[c_bulldog_0]

Yes, I have saw Cleveland play once. Cleveland was much outplayed by Bmt. Kelly in the Woodville Tournament. At one point they were down by as much as 21 in the fourth. I think Cleveland should be far behind West Orange and behind West Brook, maybe Memorial.

[c_bulldog_0]

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[quote author=Ballislife link=topic=96275.msg1362169#msg1362169 date=1357757676]
Ridiculous, why is Cleveland still ranked over West Orange and Westbrook?
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Have you seen Cleveland?
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Yes, I have saw Cleveland play once. Cleveland was much outplayed by Bmt. Kelly in the Woodville Tournament. At one point they were down by as much as 21 in the fourth. I think Cleveland should be far behind West Orange and behind West Brook, maybe Memorial.

[aTmfan06]

Every team has a off game... not saying they should be ranked that high but don't judge  them by that game lol

[AggiesAreWe]

Rankings have been updated for week of Jan. 13.

[Baller 93]

I know Nederland lost to Ozen but I went watched the Crosby and Humble game. From what I saw Central, Ozen, & Nederland are better than those 2 teams. If that's the best 19-4A has to offer then that district isn't as good people think. Central, Ozen, & Nederland should be over those teams.

[AggiesAreWe]

Rankings have been updated for week of Jan. 20

[AggiesAreWe]

Rankings have been updated for week of Jan. 27

[jwp395]

Kelly should stil  be #2 they beat Big Sandy and would beat EC by 15+

[bullets13]

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Kelly should stil  be #2 they beat Big Sandy and would beat EC by 15+
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that's how rankings work, though.  you lose two in a row, you drop. 

[jwp395]

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[quote author=jwp395 link=topic=96275.msg1367513#msg1367513 date=1359392454]
Kelly should stil  be #2 they beat Big Sandy and would beat EC by 15+
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that's how rankings work, though.  you lose two in a row, you drop.
[/quote] but should also consider how the team would do against another one head to head

[aTmfan06]

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[quote author=bullets13 link=topic=96275.msg1367534#msg1367534 date=1359397762]
[quote author=jwp395 link=topic=96275.msg1367513#msg1367513 date=1359392454]
Kelly should stil  be #2 they beat Big Sandy and would beat EC by 15+
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that's how rankings work, though.  you lose two in a row, you drop.
[/quote] but should also consider how the team would do against another one head to head
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What team you talking about?

[colliecw]

You can't say how any team would play against any other team on any given day.  That is why they play the games.  EC started out the year with two experienced point guards out with injury from football and they didn't start playing until district got started.  They also have a new head coach who has installed a whole new system and it has taken time for the chemistry to gel.  I think they would beat most of the teams they played and lost to earlier in the year, but that is the way the chips fall. 
EC is 10-0 in district play averaging over 80/game and giving up less than 50/game and has earned their spot in the top 12 of the area and #20 in the state during the course of this season... remember they fell out of the rankings earlier this year and have fought to get back to the top.

Could Kelly beat EC, who knows? 8)

[AggiesAreWe]

Rankings have been updated for week of Feb. 3rd

[DXTR]

So where would Kountze rank if they were in the 5a-3a poll?

[fisherman2]

Now West Sabine is better than Kelly  ::)

[AggiesAreWe]

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Now West Sabine is better than Kelly  ::)
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You lose 3 games in a row you are naturally going to drop when the other teams are still winning. ::)

[fisherman2]

The teams Kelly has lost to would beat all the teams above Kelly handily besides Kountze.

[colliecw]

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The teams Kelly has lost to would beat all the teams above Kelly handily besides Kountze.
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We MIGHT get an idea how Kelly compares to East Chambers after they play Hitchcock (common opponent EC 61 - Hitchcock 48 and EC was missing one starter)... I emphasize MIGHT since things change as the season goes on.  I still don't believe that Kelly would beat East Chambers. And IF they could it would not be "handily".

[AggiesAreWe]

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[quote author=fisherman2 link=topic=96275.msg1369691#msg1369691 date=1359958223]
The teams Kelly has lost to would beat all the teams above Kelly handily besides Kountze.
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We MIGHT get an idea how Kelly compares to East Chambers after they play Hitchcock (common opponent EC 61 - Hitchcock 48 and EC was missing one starter)... I emphasize MIGHT since things change as the season goes on.  I still don't believe that Kelly would beat East Chambers. And IF they could it would not be "handily".
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Was told the Kelly/Hitchcock game was canceled.

[colliecw]

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[quote author=colliecw link=topic=96275.msg1369876#msg1369876 date=1360010904]
[quote author=fisherman2 link=topic=96275.msg1369691#msg1369691 date=1359958223]
The teams Kelly has lost to would beat all the teams above Kelly handily besides Kountze.
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We MIGHT get an idea how Kelly compares to East Chambers after they play Hitchcock (common opponent EC 61 - Hitchcock 48 and EC was missing one starter)... I emphasize MIGHT since things change as the season goes on.  I still don't believe that Kelly would beat East Chambers. And IF they could it would not be "handily".
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Was told the Kelly/Hitchcock game was canceled.
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Then I guess we have no reference...

Just some numbers
EC averages:
Season 63 pts/gm and gives up 49 pts/gm
In district 79 pts/gm and give up 38 pts/gm

11-0 in District 25-2A
8)

[BLUEDOVE3]

To be very honest about this district competition stuff, many of these districts are so watered down its pitiful. You can't get a good gauge on whose really good. Some of the Dallas districts are the same. And I know several of the Houston districts are just as bad. It is what it is!!

[bmtcpa87]

East Chambers lost to Big Sandy 72-39 (Dec. 11) and lost to WOS 68-40 (Dec. 14), both home games for EC.  Kelly beat Big Sandy 67-64 (Jan 8) and lost to WOS 64-55 (Nov. 27 - 2 point game with 1:30 left to play), both road games for Kelly.  There's your point of reference. 

Both Wise and Falgout have played the last two games injured.  Wise has a severly sprained ankle that has effected his explosiveness to the basket and Falgout reinjured his thumb that was hurt during football.  Not trying to make excuses but those are the facts.  Those are our two best players and two senior starters.

And yes the game with Hitchcock is cancelled.  Coach Knowles is trying to give the players some time to rest. 

[justsaying]

These score are what they are but EC had just hit the court for about 2 weeks before those games and was missing their two point guards.  You can also look at the HJ games.  Kelly got beat by 51 and EC lost by 32 so who knows...

[colliecw]

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These score are what they are but EC had just hit the court for about 2 weeks before those games and was missing their two point guards.  You can also look at the HJ games.  Kelly got beat by 51 and EC lost by 32 so who knows...
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Thanks for looking that up for me. 

This conversation could go on and on...  Kelly fans think that Kelly is better than EC and EC fans know (lol) that EC is better than Kelly...

Kelly has two playing with injury and has lost 3 in a row...  EC is health right now and is 11-0 in district play.  That said, the way the rankings work,  you lose games you drop in the rankings. 

[bmtcpa87]

Justsaying - Kelly has not played HJ this year, so I'm not sure where you got that. 

colliecw - As far as falling in the rankings, I never even mentioned the rankings and I understand when you lose you are going to fall.  I am responding to the comment that there will now be a common opponent between Kelly and EC.  I was just pointing out that there are already common opponents. 

One thing I am sure of is that the teams we play in our district are much better than the competition EC faces in their district.  Every team in our district is good.  There are no easy games.