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I noticed where a number 1 seed is picked to lose to a # 3 seed.  Therefore, Dicky V, I see no way you can resist the forthcoming offer.  We have already agreed to a $20 bet where you and Soulja are both taking Ozen.  My only requirement was that if I lost, I wanted Soulja to deliver the $ to you so you won't hassle me about the loss.  I want to offer you an opportunity to enhance your proceeds.  The total points scored between Ozen and Nederland in their two games was 93 for Ozen and 88 for Nederland.  Therefore, if you would like to give me Nederland plus 5, I am offering to replace our original bet with a new bet where I put up $100 to your $20 in exchange for being given 5 points.  If you prefer the original bet, that is ok with me but since you are particularly confident about the outcome, I thought you would prefer to make $100 instead of $20 while putting only $20 at risk in either case.
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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1186470" timestamp="1330315279"]
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So just what is wrong with Ozen being the favorite in this game?
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Seriously?
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Yes, seriously.
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If Iowa State or Baylor meet Kansas in the NCAA tournament, who is the favorite? Or if Florida State plays North Carolina or Duke in the tourney, who's the favorite?
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So just what is wrong with Ozen being the favorite in this game?
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Seriously?
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Yes, seriously.
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If Iowa State or Baylor meet Kansas in the NCAA tournament, who is the favorite? Or if Florida State plays North Carolina or Duke in the tourney, who's the favorite?
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I would personally make Kansas, NC and Duke the favorites.

But, I don't consider those to be the same as this game with Nederland and Ozen.

Instead of posing questions to me, tell me why you do not agree with Ozen being the favorite and why Nederland should be the favorite.
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[quote name="NB-Dawg" post="1186473" timestamp="1330315728"]
Here is another: If Humble were playing Summer Creek this Tuesday, who would have been the favorite?
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Well, considering that Humble swept Summer Creek in district by the scores of 62-52 and then 75-47, I would make Humble the favorite.
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[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=96704.msg1186466#msg1186466 date=1330314967]
So just what is wrong with Ozen being the favorite in this game?
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Seriously?
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Yes, seriously.
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If Iowa State or Baylor meet Kansas in the NCAA tournament, who is the favorite? Or if Florida State plays North Carolina or Duke in the tourney, who's the favorite?
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I would personally make Kansas, NC and Duke the favorites.

But, I don't consider those to be the same as this game with Nederland and Ozen.

Instead of posing questions to me, tell me why you do not agree with Ozen being the favorite and why Nederland should be the favorite.
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Here is what they all have in common. Baylor, ISU, and FL State are 3rd place teams (as was Summer Creek). Kansas and Humble finished 1st in their standings, and NC and Duke are CO, yes CO-Champs of the ACC.
Duke and FL State split their season meetings, just like Nederland and Ozen. Somehow you have the 3rd seed team as a favorite against the 1st seed team in the SAME district! Just doesn't seem logical.
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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1186477" timestamp="1330316267"]
[quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=96704.msg1186473#msg1186473 date=1330315728]
Here is another: If Humble were playing Summer Creek this Tuesday, who would have been the favorite?
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Well, considering that Humble swept Summer Creek in district by the scores of 62-52 and then 75-47, I would make Humble the favorite.
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Ok, fair.
Who would have been the favorite between Humble and KW Park (had they met again in the playoffs)? They split their head to heads in district play, yet Humble finished #1 and KW Park #2. I know for a fact that Humble would have been the favorite.
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I put Ozen the favorite based on the fact that the last time these two played, Ozen won by double digits. Also, IMO, I believe Ozen is playing the better basketball of late based on their two playoff victories over what I consider better opponents than what Nederland faced. I believe that Humble and North Forest are better teams than Dayton and Magnolia. Humble was district champion and state ranked and North Forest was runner up in their district, sweeping Dayton in district, a team that Nederland struggled with in the first round.

I admit that I was wrong with making Magnolia a favorite over Nederland but I see nothing wrong with making Ozen a favorite over Nederland based on what I just stated.

IMO, Ozen is playing a little better basketball of late than Nederland therefore why I have them as 4 point favorites.

I do not see where that is so hard to understand.
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[quote name="NB-Dawg" post="1186479" timestamp="1330316740"]
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[quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=96704.msg1186473#msg1186473 date=1330315728]
Here is another: If Humble were playing Summer Creek this Tuesday, who would have been the favorite?
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Well, considering that Humble swept Summer Creek in district by the scores of 62-52 and then 75-47, I would make Humble the favorite.
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Ok, fair.
Who would have been the favorite between Humble and KW Park (had they met again in the playoffs)? They split their head to heads in district play, yet Humble finished #1 and KW Park #2. [b]I know for a fact [/b]that Humble would have been the favorite.
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I would not know for a fact. I would have to look at how the two finished the season and how they performed in the playoffs up to that point.
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I put Ozen the favorite based on the fact that the last time these two played, Ozen won by double digits. Also, IMO, I believe Ozen is playing the better basketball of late based on their two playoff victories over what I consider better opponents than what Nederland faced. I believe that Humble and North Forest are better teams than Dayton and Magnolia. Humble was district champion and state ranked and North Forest was runner up in their district, sweeping Dayton in district, a team that Nederland struggled with in the first round.

I admit that I was wrong with making Magnolia a favorite over Nederland but I see nothing wrong with making Ozen a favorite over Nederland based on what I just stated.

IMO, Ozen is playing a little better basketball of late than Nederland therefore why I have them as 4 point favorites.

I do not see where that is so hard to understand.
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How was i suppose to know what you were thinking? Now that u have explained it, I understand, thanks!  ;)

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Ozen is playing good right now. But as their loss to Livingston proved, they are also capable of playing badly, as is any team. IMO previously played games don't mean much at this point, it is all about the game at hand. Overall, Nederland will handle Ozen's pressure, and will ultimately win this game at the FT line in the 4th qtr
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Ozen is playing good right now. But as their loss to Livingston proved, they are also capable of playing badly, as is any team. IMO previously played games don't mean much at this point, it is all about the game at hand. Overall, Nederland will handle Ozen's pressure, and will ultimately win this game at the FT line in the 4th qtr
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How did you come to THIS conclusion? FT Line? You have got to be NOSTRADAMUS to predict that sort of outcome...You WANT Nederland to win...You HOPE they win...THATS ok...Just say that... ::)
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[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=96704.msg1186492#msg1186492 date=1330318460]
Ozen is playing good right now. But as their loss to Livingston proved, they are also capable of playing badly, as is any team. IMO previously played games don't mean much at this point, it is all about the game at hand. Overall, Nederland will handle Ozen's pressure, and will ultimately win this game at the FT line in the 4th qtr
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How did you come to THIS conclusion? FT Line? You have got to be NOSTRADAMUS to predict that sort of outcome...You WANT Nederland to win...You HOPE they win...THATS ok...Just say that... ::)
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Same as you KNOW Ozen is going to win right?
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[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1186481" timestamp="1330317015"]
It's NEDERLAND....at the end of the day... 8)
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Well, as you say, "it's Nederland" and since it is "Nederland at the end of the day", I am in total shock that you haven't jumped ALL OVER my financial offer since the outcome is seemingly cut and dried.
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