Are 'REAL' HS hoops played on the lower classifications (1a or 2a)?

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="cbosha" post="1198907" timestamp="1332101603"]
Have you guys read anything I have writtten. I only mentioned my high school accomplishments as well as my teammates  to prove a point. That real basketball is played on the lower levels, and to show that we have the accolades to prove it.  The fact that my nephew didn't make the all region is a non issue for me right now. i am over it. I only bought it up to show texas a&m his hypocrisy...
[/quote]


and I have proven to you that I have not been a hypocrite about that subject. Never once did I say that Zjori should not have been all region.

BTW, you have not answered my question about the all district teams.

[cbosha]

Again you have incorrect information. Who the heck is Brownwood. Sherly Swoopes played for Brownsfield. We lost to them in the state finals, but it was NOT a blowout. We were ranked#1 in the state and we were undefeated. They had lost 8 games. We took them lightly, didn't prepare properly. We had already scheduled our victory parade..NOONE expected them to beat us, not even their team, but those type of things happen. We won state the next year and Sherly was still playing. ;D,  I am not commenting on a certain player anymore in regards to the all district or all region team. I am passed that. "All things work together for good for those who love the lord and are called according to their purpose". Maybe a 5A team COULD'VE blown us out, but it NEVER happened.

[Dick Vitale]

Brownwood, Brownfield...YOU know what I meant! ;)

[Rockin A]

I'm confident that in 1989, the 3A state champs, who I think went 36-0, could have whooped up on more than a few 5A teams.  They had a center named Shaquille O'Neal.  I think they went 35-1 his junior year when they were still in 2A.  Either way, when he played, there was basically one play...throw it high into the middle and let the big guy do this thing.  Seemed to work. 
 

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="Rockin A" post="1198977" timestamp="1332122708"]
I'm confident that in 1989, the 3A state champs, who I think went 36-0, could have whooped up on more than a few 5A teams.  They had a center named Shaquille O'Neal.  I think they went 35-1 his junior year when they were still in 2A.  Either way, when he played, there was basically one play...throw it high into the middle and let the big guy do this thing.  Seemed to work. 

[/quote]1989? hmmm? Thats about 22 years ago.

[Rockin A]

Huh?  Ya, 1989...actually 23 yrs ago.  Your point?

[AOO7]

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1195010" timestamp="1331318812"]
This topic was brought up from the State Tourney games today wich were lower classifications.  We called them 'not real'.  Thoughts?
[/quote]
You could have 5 starters from say Bmt Ozen, all move to a 1A school, would you then call their games "not real" no? You never know what kind of athletes you''ll see in lower classifications, way more often than not, there is more talent in the higher classifications obviously, but some of these smaller schools especially in basketball can feature some big time players, Kountze Devin Bray, 6-3 200 pounds, he would have played on any team in the state 1-5A, so while he was out on the court and when his team was in Austin how could you say that's not 'real' basketball when you could have placed Bray on that HJ 3A team that was also at state and he would have been a force in that game, the 4a and the 5a state game, you can't say it's not real because you never know what kind of talent these small schools can come up with, but generally the last place team in a 2a district vs the 2nd to last place team won't be as exciting as two last place 5a teams going at it, but when talking about State tournaments, yes it's real basketball.

[True Blue]

[quote name="LP6" post="1199166" timestamp="1332180745"]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=97341.msg1195010#msg1195010 date=1331318812]
This topic was brought up from the State Tourney games today wich were lower classifications.  We called them 'not real'.  Thoughts?
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You could have 5 starters from say Bmt Ozen, all move to a 1A school, would you then call their games "not real" no? You never know what kind of athletes you''ll see in lower classifications, way more often than not, there is more talent in the higher classifications obviously, but some of these smaller schools especially in basketball can feature some big time players, Kountze Devin Bray, 6-3 200 pounds, he would have played on any team in the state 1-5A, so while he was out on the court and when his team was in Austin how could you say that's not 'real' basketball when you could have placed Bray on that HJ 3A team that was also at state and he would have been a force in that game, the 4a and the 5a state game, you can't say it's not real because you never know what kind of talent these small schools can come up with, but generally the last place team in a 2a district vs the 2nd to last place team won't be as exciting as two last place 5a teams going at it, but when talking about State tournaments, yes it's real basketball.
[/quote] Well i agree with most of what your saying except the fact the Devin never made it to Austin, I watch him play 3 times that yr and was in the Gym when he lost to NW before they made it to Austin.

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="True Blue" post="1199173" timestamp="1332181297"]
[quote author=LP6 link=topic=97341.msg1199166#msg1199166 date=1332180745]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=97341.msg1195010#msg1195010 date=1331318812]
This topic was brought up from the State Tourney games today wich were lower classifications.  We called them 'not real'.  Thoughts?
[/quote]
You could have 5 starters from say Bmt Ozen, all move to a 1A school, would you then call their games "not real" no? You never know what kind of athletes you''ll see in lower classifications, way more often than not, there is more talent in the higher classifications obviously, but some of these smaller schools especially in basketball can feature some big time players, Kountze Devin Bray, 6-3 200 pounds, he would have played on any team in the state 1-5A, so while he was out on the court and when his team was in Austin how could you say that's not 'real' basketball when you could have placed Bray on that HJ 3A team that was also at state and he would have been a force in that game, the 4a and the 5a state game, you can't say it's not real because you never know what kind of talent these small schools can come up with, but generally the last place team in a 2a district vs the 2nd to last place team won't be as exciting as two last place 5a teams going at it, but when talking about State tournaments, yes it's real basketball.
[/quote] Well i agree with most of what your saying except the fact the Devin never made it to Austin, I watch him play 3 times that yr and was in the Gym when he lost to NW before they made it to Austin.
[/quote]


Devin was on the Kountze team and played when Kountze won the state championship in 2007, the same year HJ won the 3A title.

[KHSAlum400]

[quote name="LP6" post="1199166" timestamp="1332180745"]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=97341.msg1195010#msg1195010 date=1331318812]
This topic was brought up from the State Tourney games today wich were lower classifications.  We called them 'not real'.  Thoughts?
[/quote]
You could have 5 starters from say Bmt Ozen, all move to a 1A school, would you then call their games "not real" no? You never know what kind of athletes you''ll see in lower classifications, way more often than not, there is more talent in the higher classifications obviously, but some of these smaller schools especially in basketball can feature some big time players, Kountze Devin Bray, 6-3 200 pounds, he would have played on any team in the state 1-5A, so while he was out on the court and when his team was in Austin how could you say that's not 'real' basketball when you could have placed Bray on that HJ 3A team that was also at state and he would have been a force in that game, the 4a and the 5a state game, you can't say it's not real because you never know what kind of talent these small schools can come up with, but generally the last place team in a 2a district vs the 2nd to last place team won't be as exciting as two last place 5a teams going at it, but when talking about State tournaments, yes it's real basketball.
[/quote]

After reading this, you bring up a good point. What happens when a 3A team wins a State Championship and then drops to 2A the next year and wins another State Championship. Were they not playing "REAL" basketball when they simply on changed "classifications?"

[AOO7]

[quote name="KHSAlum400" post="1199235" timestamp="1332188387"]
[quote author=LP6 link=topic=97341.msg1199166#msg1199166 date=1332180745]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=97341.msg1195010#msg1195010 date=1331318812]
This topic was brought up from the State Tourney games today wich were lower classifications.  We called them 'not real'.  Thoughts?
[/quote]
You could have 5 starters from say Bmt Ozen, all move to a 1A school, would you then call their games "not real" no? You never know what kind of athletes you''ll see in lower classifications, way more often than not, there is more talent in the higher classifications obviously, but some of these smaller schools especially in basketball can feature some big time players, Kountze Devin Bray, 6-3 200 pounds, he would have played on any team in the state 1-5A, so while he was out on the court and when his team was in Austin how could you say that's not 'real' basketball when you could have placed Bray on that HJ 3A team that was also at state and he would have been a force in that game, the 4a and the 5a state game, you can't say it's not real because you never know what kind of talent these small schools can come up with, but generally the last place team in a 2a district vs the 2nd to last place team won't be as exciting as two last place 5a teams going at it, but when talking about State tournaments, yes it's real basketball.
[/quote]

After reading this, you bring up a good point. What happens when a 3A team wins a State Championship and then drops to 2A the next year and wins another State Championship. Were they not playing "REAL" basketball when they simply on changed "classifications?"
[/quote]
Great point! La Marque was just a 4A football powerhouse, they dropped down to 3A next year will they still be playing "real football" lol, that was a stretch to the topic, but I'm just making a point.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="LP6" post="1199242" timestamp="1332188990"]
[quote author=KHSAlum400 link=topic=97341.msg1199235#msg1199235 date=1332188387]
[quote author=LP6 link=topic=97341.msg1199166#msg1199166 date=1332180745]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=97341.msg1195010#msg1195010 date=1331318812]
This topic was brought up from the State Tourney games today wich were lower classifications.  We called them 'not real'.  Thoughts?
[/quote]
You could have 5 starters from say Bmt Ozen, all move to a 1A school, would you then call their games "not real" no? You never know what kind of athletes you''ll see in lower classifications, way more often than not, there is more talent in the higher classifications obviously, but some of these smaller schools especially in basketball can feature some big time players, Kountze Devin Bray, 6-3 200 pounds, he would have played on any team in the state 1-5A, so while he was out on the court and when his team was in Austin how could you say that's not 'real' basketball when you could have placed Bray on that HJ 3A team that was also at state and he would have been a force in that game, the 4a and the 5a state game, you can't say it's not real because you never know what kind of talent these small schools can come up with, but generally the last place team in a 2a district vs the 2nd to last place team won't be as exciting as two last place 5a teams going at it, but when talking about State tournaments, yes it's real basketball.
[/quote]

After reading this, you bring up a good point. What happens when a 3A team wins a State Championship and then drops to 2A the next year and wins another State Championship. Were they not playing "REAL" basketball when they simply on changed "classifications?"
[/quote]
Great point! La Marque was just a 4A football powerhouse, they dropped down to 3A next year will they still be playing "real football" lol, that was a stretch to the topic, but I'm just making a point.
[/quote]Hmmm! La Marque is a traditional powerhouse with real players ;D

[BMTSoulja1]

Are we STILL talking about this?  Really?

[True Blue]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1199185" timestamp="1332182790"]
[quote author=True Blue link=topic=97341.msg1199173#msg1199173 date=1332181297]
[quote author=LP6 link=topic=97341.msg1199166#msg1199166 date=1332180745]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=97341.msg1195010#msg1195010 date=1331318812]
This topic was brought up from the State Tourney games today wich were lower classifications.  We called them 'not real'.  Thoughts?
[/quote]
You could have 5 starters from say Bmt Ozen, all move to a 1A school, would you then call their games "not real" no? You never know what kind of athletes you''ll see in lower classifications, way more often than not, there is more talent in the higher classifications obviously, but some of these smaller schools especially in basketball can feature some big time players, Kountze Devin Bray, 6-3 200 pounds, he would have played on any team in the state 1-5A, so while he was out on the court and when his team was in Austin how could you say that's not 'real' basketball when you could have placed Bray on that HJ 3A team that was also at state and he would have been a force in that game, the 4a and the 5a state game, you can't say it's not real because you never know what kind of talent these small schools can come up with, but generally the last place team in a 2a district vs the 2nd to last place team won't be as exciting as two last place 5a teams going at it, but when talking about State tournaments, yes it's real basketball.
[/quote] Well i agree with most of what your saying except the fact the Devin never made it to Austin, I watch him play 3 times that yr and was in the Gym when he lost to NW before they made it to Austin.
[/quote]


Devin was on the Kountze team and played when Kountze won the state championship in 2007, the same year HJ won the 3A title.
[/quote]OH I did not know that.. He must have been a Freshman. Did he start as a Freshman???

[AOO7]

[quote name="True Blue" post="1199294" timestamp="1332200698"]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=97341.msg1199185#msg1199185 date=1332182790]
[quote author=True Blue link=topic=97341.msg1199173#msg1199173 date=1332181297]
[quote author=LP6 link=topic=97341.msg1199166#msg1199166 date=1332180745]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=97341.msg1195010#msg1195010 date=1331318812]
This topic was brought up from the State Tourney games today wich were lower classifications.  We called them 'not real'.  Thoughts?
[/quote]
You could have 5 starters from say Bmt Ozen, all move to a 1A school, would you then call their games "not real" no? You never know what kind of athletes you''ll see in lower classifications, way more often than not, there is more talent in the higher classifications obviously, but some of these smaller schools especially in basketball can feature some big time players, Kountze Devin Bray, 6-3 200 pounds, he would have played on any team in the state 1-5A, so while he was out on the court and when his team was in Austin how could you say that's not 'real' basketball when you could have placed Bray on that HJ 3A team that was also at state and he would have been a force in that game, the 4a and the 5a state game, you can't say it's not real because you never know what kind of talent these small schools can come up with, but generally the last place team in a 2a district vs the 2nd to last place team won't be as exciting as two last place 5a teams going at it, but when talking about State tournaments, yes it's real basketball.
[/quote] Well i agree with most of what your saying except the fact the Devin never made it to Austin, I watch him play 3 times that yr and was in the Gym when he lost to NW before they made it to Austin.
[/quote]


Devin was on the Kountze team and played when Kountze won the state championship in 2007, the same year HJ won the 3A title.
[/quote]OH I did not know that.. He must have been a Freshman. Did he start as a Freshman???
[/quote]
he was prolly a  sophomore

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1199251" timestamp="1332191742"]
Are we STILL talking about this?  Really?
[/quote] yep! ;D

[BMTSoulja1]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1199431" timestamp="1332211870"]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=97341.msg1199251#msg1199251 date=1332191742]
Are we STILL talking about this?  Really?
[/quote] yep! ;D
[/quote]Smh. 

[KHSAlum400]

[quote name="LP6" post="1199428" timestamp="1332211466"]
[quote author=True Blue link=topic=97341.msg1199294#msg1199294 date=1332200698]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=97341.msg1199185#msg1199185 date=1332182790]
[quote author=True Blue link=topic=97341.msg1199173#msg1199173 date=1332181297]
[quote author=LP6 link=topic=97341.msg1199166#msg1199166 date=1332180745]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=97341.msg1195010#msg1195010 date=1331318812]
This topic was brought up from the State Tourney games today wich were lower classifications.  We called them 'not real'.  Thoughts?
[/quote]
You could have 5 starters from say Bmt Ozen, all move to a 1A school, would you then call their games "not real" no? You never know what kind of athletes you''ll see in lower classifications, way more often than not, there is more talent in the higher classifications obviously, but some of these smaller schools especially in basketball can feature some big time players, Kountze Devin Bray, 6-3 200 pounds, he would have played on any team in the state 1-5A, so while he was out on the court and when his team was in Austin how could you say that's not 'real' basketball when you could have placed Bray on that HJ 3A team that was also at state and he would have been a force in that game, the 4a and the 5a state game, you can't say it's not real because you never know what kind of talent these small schools can come up with, but generally the last place team in a 2a district vs the 2nd to last place team won't be as exciting as two last place 5a teams going at it, but when talking about State tournaments, yes it's real basketball.
[/quote] Well i agree with most of what your saying except the fact the Devin never made it to Austin, I watch him play 3 times that yr and was in the Gym when he lost to NW before they made it to Austin.
[/quote]


Devin was on the Kountze team and played when Kountze won the state championship in 2007, the same year HJ won the 3A title.
[/quote]OH I did not know that.. He must have been a Freshman. Did he start as a Freshman???
[/quote]
he was prolly a  sophomore
[/quote]

He was a Freshman, did not start but made huge contributions throughout the year and especially at the Regional Tournament and State Tournament that year.

[True Blue]

[quote name="KHSAlum400" post="1199507" timestamp="1332251384"]
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[quote author=True Blue link=topic=97341.msg1199173#msg1199173 date=1332181297]
[quote author=LP6 link=topic=97341.msg1199166#msg1199166 date=1332180745]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=97341.msg1195010#msg1195010 date=1331318812]
This topic was brought up from the State Tourney games today wich were lower classifications.  We called them 'not real'.  Thoughts?
[/quote]
You could have 5 starters from say Bmt Ozen, all move to a 1A school, would you then call their games "not real" no? You never know what kind of athletes you''ll see in lower classifications, way more often than not, there is more talent in the higher classifications obviously, but some of these smaller schools especially in basketball can feature some big time players, Kountze Devin Bray, 6-3 200 pounds, he would have played on any team in the state 1-5A, so while he was out on the court and when his team was in Austin how could you say that's not 'real' basketball when you could have placed Bray on that HJ 3A team that was also at state and he would have been a force in that game, the 4a and the 5a state game, you can't say it's not real because you never know what kind of talent these small schools can come up with, but generally the last place team in a 2a district vs the 2nd to last place team won't be as exciting as two last place 5a teams going at it, but when talking about State tournaments, yes it's real basketball.
[/quote] Well i agree with most of what your saying except the fact the Devin never made it to Austin, I watch him play 3 times that yr and was in the Gym when he lost to NW before they made it to Austin.
[/quote]


Devin was on the Kountze team and played when Kountze won the state championship in 2007, the same year HJ won the 3A title.
[/quote]OH I did not know that.. He must have been a Freshman. Did he start as a Freshman???
[/quote]
he was prolly a  sophomore
[/quote]

He was a Freshman, did not start but made huge contributions throughout the year and especially at the Regional Tournament and State Tournament that year.
[/quote] I will say he was one of the best small forwards I have seen play in the 1a to 3a schools. Dont know if he will be a star in collage, but he did shine in high school...

[BLUEDOVE3]

Is Bray the kid who moved to California and came back to Kountze?

[True Blue]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1199572" timestamp="1332257829"]
Is Bray the kid who moved to California and came back to Kountze?
[/quote]yep you got it... that him, hes playing at Jc now but have not heard if he got picked up this yr. Watch him play PA and he looked good. But at 6'2'' he has a little prob. matching up on the def. side.. and he does not have a good out side shot.. his game is more of taking is off the dribble and going to the rack.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="True Blue" post="1199598" timestamp="1332261497"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=97341.msg1199572#msg1199572 date=1332257829]
Is Bray the kid who moved to California and came back to Kountze?
[/quote]yep you got it... that him, hes playing at Jc now but have not heard if he got picked up this yr. Watch him play PA and he looked good. But at 6'2'' he has a little prob. matching up on the def. side.. and he does not have a good out side shot.. his game is more of taking is off the dribble and going to the rack.
[/quote]  :-X :-X

[BLUEDOVE3]

So, based on this thread started by a *firestarter* whom I will remain nameless [s](BmtSoulja[/s]),  I would conclude that real basketball is played on all levels. The DIFFERENCE is that 5-A gives you a larger pool to watch more entertaining players. ;)

[stevenash]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1199907" timestamp="1332334575"]
So, based on this thread started by a *firestarter* whom I will remain nameless [s](BmtSoulja[/s]),  I would conclude that real basketball is played on all levels. The DIFFERENCE is that 5-A gives you a larger pool to watch more entertaining players. ;)
[/quote]

Subject to one's individual definition of "more entertaining"

[True Blue]

It just depends on what you like to watch. I like to watch a team ,that is matched up even and play good def. and a good half court off. Small School.. But I understand that some like to watch a Team run up and down with dunks and alleys with very little def. 4 and 5a....