Gladiator Program vs. USSSA

[2ForTheRoad]

Supposedly the entire Beaumont Gladiator program is banned from USSSA and any associated tournaments...please explain.  Maybe some bad blood???

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[quote name="2ForTheRoad" post="1202765" timestamp="1332896567"]
Supposedly the entire Beaumont Gladiator program is banned from USSSA and any associated tournaments...please explain.  Maybe some bad blood???
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If this is true then it will really hurt the younger Elite teams and the older teams since they rely more on USSSA to play tournaments.

[rounder17]

But I thought usssa would never do that? They are "all about the kids", right VP93? Seems usssa has a personal vendetta against Morgan Walker. Why would they suspend all Gladiator teams, when he only coaches 14u? Why would they suspend any FAMILY member of his? Maybe VP93, 2 sons playing, or MJB can help me out and answer some of these question. Is it because usssa isn't thriving in Beaumont?

[KF89]

i doubt that usssa has banned a team just becuz of a person or becuz of playing nations baseball.im sure if the gladiators sign up for a u-trip tourney they will take their team & money with a smile.all this supposedly & i heard bulls**t is like a group of jr. high girls flapping their lips. gladiator program if thats what u want to call it,isnt going to make or break an organization the size of usssa.u guys just need to shut up & just play baseball in whatever organization u want. 

[One4All]

Gladiators /Nations-  have  been trying to kill Usssa in Bmt. since it started..... Several times the Nations tournament director in Bmt. has offered my son's team discounts,  if we only play Nations tournaments at Ford Park.  So we are only allowed to play Usssa tournaments in other areas.

Also I have a close coworker that is an umpire who was cordially threatened to not work Usssa gamrumores.  Which is ridiculous! ...........Facts not  rumor

[rounder17]

[quote name="One4All" post="1202895" timestamp="1332936064"]
Gladiators /Nations-  have  been trying to kill Usssa in Bmt. since it started..... Several times the Nations tournament director in Bmt. has offered my son's team discounts,  if we only play Nations tournaments at Ford Park.  So we are only allowed to play Usssa tournaments in other areas.

Also I have a close coworker that is an umpire who was cordially threatened to not work Usssa gamrumores.  Which is ridiculous! ...........Facts not  rumor
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What do you mean you are only "allowed" to play usssa tournaments in other areas? What would happen if you played one locally?

[getripped]

What happened, did a Gladiator team show up to a USSSA tourney and pass out Nations flyers or something?    I am with Rounder, seems there was an argument several weeks back about how USSSA is for the kids!  Tillery offers discounts so why cant Morgan.  Seems like a business decision to me.

[knucklehead]

[quote name="kf89" post="1202875" timestamp="1332910059"]
i doubt that usssa has banned a team just becuz of a person or becuz of playing nations baseball.im sure if the gladiators sign up for a u-trip tourney they will take their team & money with a smile.all this supposedly & i heard bulls**t is like a group of jr. high girls flapping their lips. gladiator program if thats what u want to call it,isnt going to make or break an organization the size of usssa.u guys just need to shut up & just play baseball in whatever organization u want.
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>:(

[rounder17]

[quote name="One4All" post="1202895" timestamp="1332936064"]
Gladiators /Nations-  have  been trying to kill Usssa in Bmt. since it started..... Several times the Nations tournament director in Bmt. has offered my son's team discounts,  if we only play Nations tournaments at Ford Park.  So we are only allowed to play Usssa tournaments in other areas.

Also I have a close coworker that is an umpire who was cordially threatened to not work Usssa gamrumores.  Which is ridiculous! ...........Facts not  rumor
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Usssa has been trying to kill nations also. Every time nations put on a tournament in Lake Charles last year, usssa went and offered one the same weekend for $100. Tillerys' tournaments are $200. Discount you say? What's the difference? How can you say Gladiators are trying to kill usssa? If I remember correctly, Morgan switched from Usssa to Nations, years ago. I like how they inform me on a Wednesday that we can't play in the tournament we are signed up for this weekend, after telling me Tuesday that we could play. But hey, it's justifiable for anyone that "does it for the kids" right? Look at for the new usssa team named the GT Cobras.

[knucklehead]

kf89, I heard that the 11 U Gladiator team got notice today that they were removed from the USSSA tournament at Big League Dreams for this weekend.  So, it is real and its too bad that the children are the ones who suffer from USSSA's decision! What did these kids do to deserve this? So, it does appear that the Gladiators tried to support USSSA by registering and attempting to play in one of their tournaments. Who has taken the high road here, not USSSA!

[tc hawk]

You wanna know how their trying to kill the (local) usssa, just ask some of the coaches,umpires and workers! It's been told to local teams, that they will get a discount from (local) nations tournaments and the baseball academy, if they don't play in ANY of the (local) usssa tournaments. Fact, its been offered to me and my team.

Umpires have been told because they umpire for usssa (local) they want be asked to umpire in nations. Fact, its happen to me also.

I only know of one but im sure there are more but it was told to one of the workers who worked for both usssa and nations that if he worked another usssa tournament he would not be used at nations again.

So ask yourself who took the high road!

I don't agree in the whole kicking out the teams though. Looks like both failed on that part. Kick the coach out not the team!

[rounder17]

[quote name="tc hawk" post="1203107" timestamp="1332959167"]
You wanna know how their trying to kill the (local) usssa, just ask some of the coaches,umpires and workers! It's been told to local teams, that they will get a discount from (local) nations tournaments and the baseball acdemy, if they don't play in ANY of the (local) usssa tournaments. Fact, its been offered to me and my team.

Umpires have been told because they umpire for usssa (local) they want be asked to umpire in nations. Fact, its happen to me also.

I only know of one but im sure there are more but it was told to one of the workers who worked for both usssa and nations that if he worked another usssa tournament he would not be used at nations again.

So ask yourself who took the high road!

I don't agree in the whole kicking out the teams though. Looks like both failed on that part. Kick the coach out not the team!
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If you think usssa isn't offering discounts your blind. Go find me some other tournaments that cost $100-$200. As for the workers out there, I don't think Nations or usssa controls who works a concession stand, or on a field.
Knucklehead, 11u gladiators did get an e-mail today stating that. That's okay though, they found a Nations event that was full, and Nations bent over backwards to get them in. That's what people who "do it for the kids" do.

[rounder17]

Also, I bought a truck earlier in the year. One dealership offered me a better deal for the same vehicle, so I chose the better deal. It's called doing what it takes to get your business. Most good businesses do those kind of things.

[tc hawk]

[quote name="rounder17" post="1203110" timestamp="1332959504"]
[quote author=tc hawk link=topic=98184.msg1203107#msg1203107 date=1332959167]
You wanna know how their trying to kill the (local) usssa, just ask some of the coaches,umpires and workers! It's been told to local teams, that they will get a discount from (local) nations tournaments and the baseball acdemy, if they don't play in ANY of the (local) usssa tournaments. Fact, its been offered to me and my team.

Umpires have been told because they umpire for usssa (local) they want be asked to umpire in nations. Fact, its happen to me also.

I only know of one but im sure there are more but it was told to one of the workers who worked for both usssa and nations that if he worked another usssa tournament he would not be used at nations again.

So ask yourself who took the high road!

I don't agree in the whole kicking out the teams though. Looks like both failed on that part. Kick the coach out not the team!
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If you think usssa isn't offering discounts your blind. Go find me some other tournaments that cost $100-$200. As for the workers out there, I don't think Nations or usssa controls who works a concession stand, or on a field.
Knucklehead, 11u gladiators did get an e-mail today stating that. That's okay though, they found a Nations event that was full, and Nations bent over backwards to get them in. That's what people who "do it for the kids" do.
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No one said concessions stand or on the fields. The workers who go around picking up trash and doing other things. It's obvious you work for Morgan or Coach one of his teams so you should know whats going on.

[rounder17]

[quote name="tc hawk" post="1203116" timestamp="1332959992"]
[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=98184.msg1203110#msg1203110 date=1332959504]
[quote author=tc hawk link=topic=98184.msg1203107#msg1203107 date=1332959167]
You wanna know how their trying to kill the (local) usssa, just ask some of the coaches,umpires and workers! It's been told to local teams, that they will get a discount from (local) nations tournaments and the baseball acdemy, if they don't play in ANY of the (local) usssa tournaments. Fact, its been offered to me and my team.

Umpires have been told because they umpire for usssa (local) they want be asked to umpire in nations. Fact, its happen to me also.

I only know of one but im sure there are more but it was told to one of the workers who worked for both usssa and nations that if he worked another usssa tournament he would not be used at nations again.

So ask yourself who took the high road!

I don't agree in the whole kicking out the teams though. Looks like both failed on that part. Kick the coach out not the team!
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If you think usssa isn't offering discounts your blind. Go find me some other tournaments that cost $100-$200. As for the workers out there, I don't think Nations or usssa controls who works a concession stand, or on a field.
Knucklehead, 11u gladiators did get an e-mail today stating that. That's okay though, they found a Nations event that was full, and Nations bent over backwards to get them in. That's what people who "do it for the kids" do.
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No one said concessions stand or on the fields. The workers who go around picking up trash and doing other things. It's obvious you work for Morgan or Coach one of his teams so you should know whats going on.
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So those workers don't work for smg? I don't know, that's why I'm asking.
Why don't you answer my other question? Why does usssa put on discounted tournaments of a $100, on weekends that nations have tournaments there? Are they trying to run nations out of there? Seems to be the same thing to me.

[Roaddog]

[b][u][size=14pt][color=orange]IMO, I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD TAKE A STEP BACK AND FOCUS MORE ON THE KIDS, FAMILY,FRIENDS AND GET ON YOUR KNEES AND PRAY FOR FORGIVENESS, RECONSILIATION, AND RESOLUTION. AS THIS CONSTANT BICKERING,AND RESENTMENT IS EFFECTING THE FUTURE OF OUR CHILDREN. THANK GOD FOR THE OPPRITUNITY I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SPEND TIME AT THE BALLPARK WITH MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS!!!![/color][/size][/u][/b]

[Guest UHCoog14]

[quote name="Roaddog" post="1203131" timestamp="1332960750"]
[b][u][size=14pt][color=orange]IMO, I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD TAKE A STEP BACK AND FOCUS MORE ON THE KIDS, FAMILY,FRIENDS AND GET ON YOUR KNEES AND PRAY FOR FORGIVENESS, RECONSILIATION, AND RESOLUTION. AS THIS CONSTANT BICKERING,AND RESENTMENT IS EFFECTING THE FUTURE OF OUR CHILDREN. THANK GOD FOR THE OPPRITUNITY I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SPEND TIME AT THE BALLPARK WITH MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS!!!![/color][/size][/u][/b]
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Stop yelling at me.

Good luck to Morgan and the Gladiators. My son was fortunate enough to play for him and Jed. They are 1st class!

[tc hawk]

[quote name="rounder17" post="1203127" timestamp="1332960477"]
[quote author=tc hawk link=topic=98184.msg1203116#msg1203116 date=1332959992]
[quote author=rounder17 link=topic=98184.msg1203110#msg1203110 date=1332959504]
[quote author=tc hawk link=topic=98184.msg1203107#msg1203107 date=1332959167]
You wanna know how their trying to kill the (local) usssa, just ask some of the coaches,umpires and workers! It's been told to local teams, that they will get a discount from (local) nations tournaments and the baseball acdemy, if they don't play in ANY of the (local) usssa tournaments. Fact, its been offered to me and my team.

Umpires have been told because they umpire for usssa (local) they want be asked to umpire in nations. Fact, its happen to me also.

I only know of one but im sure there are more but it was told to one of the workers who worked for both usssa and nations that if he worked another usssa tournament he would not be used at nations again.

So ask yourself who took the high road!

I don't agree in the whole kicking out the teams though. Looks like both failed on that part. Kick the coach out not the team!
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If you think usssa isn't offering discounts your blind. Go find me some other tournaments that cost $100-$200. As for the workers out there, I don't think Nations or usssa controls who works a concession stand, or on a field.
Knucklehead, 11u gladiators did get an e-mail today stating that. That's okay though, they found a Nations event that was full, and Nations bent over backwards to get them in. That's what people who "do it for the kids" do.
[/quote]

No one said concessions stand or on the fields. The workers who go around picking up trash and doing other things. It's obvious you work for Morgan or Coach one of his teams so you should know whats going on.
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So those workers don't work for smg? I don't know, that's why I'm asking.
Why don't you answer my other question? Why does usssa put on discounted tournaments of a $100, on weekends that nations have tournaments there? Are they trying to run nations out of there? Seems to be the same thing to me.
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If you wanna know something about why usssa has done what they done or why there cheaper, call your local director, he has giving you his number on another post. Pick up the phone and call.

[Chorizo_11]

SHUT UP AND PLAY BASEBALL,,,,,,,,

[tc hawk]

[quote name="faub10" post="1203139" timestamp="1332961451"]
SHUT UP AND PLAY BASEBALL,,,,,,,,
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I so AGREE!

[Horns89]

There are plenty of tournaments out there. Just pick one ut and play. Its not hard!!!!!!

[knucklehead]

not many to choose from on a Wednesday afternoon but it appears that the 11U team found an alternative tourney with Nations, so it will all be okay. I suppose they know not to offer its support to USSSA anymore!  Play Ball!

[tc hawk]

[quote name="knucklehead" post="1203241" timestamp="1332972075"]
not many to choose from on a Wednesday afternoon but it appears that the 11U team found an alternative tourney with Nations, so it will all be okay. I suppose they know not to offer its support to USSSA anymore!  Play Ball!
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Just remember, NATIONS has done the same thing.
You and rounder17 thought it was funny, takeing jabs at 2sonsplaying for the same thing happening to his team.
KARMA, it sucks.

[rounder17]

[quote name="tc hawk" post="1203268" timestamp="1332977699"]
[quote author=knucklehead link=topic=98184.msg1203241#msg1203241 date=1332972075]
not many to choose from on a Wednesday afternoon but it appears that the 11U team found an alternative tourney with Nations, so it will all be okay. I suppose they know not to offer its support to USSSA anymore!  Play Ball!
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Just remember, NATIONS has done the same thing.
You and rounder17 thought it was funny, takeing jabs at 2sonsplaying for the same thing happening to his team.
KARMA, it sucks.
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First of all I have never taken jabs at 2 sons playing for that, it was VP93. Second, totally different situation. The vipers coach got caught handing out usssa tournament flyers at a nations tournament in Houston, and was escorted out. Therefore, his team got suspended by nations. I can assure you, the Gladiator coach has not been caught doing that. So since you obviously know so much, tell me THE REASON all Gladiator teams got suspended from usssa.

[rounder17]

Oh and remember 2 sons playing said he has an 8 and 10 year old kid.  If that is true, how did his team get suspended by nations, when it was an 11 year old team that I was referring to?