Question of the day: Which SE Texas footballl program.....

[Dick Vitale]

has been to the state championship game the most times ALL TIME?:

A) Westbrook
B) West Orange Stark
C) Jasper
D) PA Jefferson
E) Newton

How many times?

[PNGFan]

PNG has been 6 times, but out of that group I would say Newton.

[WOSgrad]

The answer to your question is: it depends.

1) If you go strictly by the names listed in the multiple choices: The answer is a tie between West Orange-Stark (1986, 1987, 1988, 2000) and Newton (1974, 1998, 2004, 2005) with 4 state title appearances;

2) If you are talking about schools that were the same school but underwent a name change: The answer is Port Arthur Jefferson with 5.  While PA Jefferson made the state championship game only once (1980), the same school, under the name Port Arthur High, advanced to the state championship game 4 times (1928 1929, 1944, 1957).

[Dick Vitale]

Thats good stuff WOSgrad! And thanks PNGfan, I accidentally omitted PNG...I am putting something together for all SE Texas sports....Thanks for the info! ;)

[WOSgrad]

Port Neches-Groves appeared in the state title game 3 times as Port Neches High (1953, 1954, 1955) and 3 under its current name (1975, 1977, 1999).

[Dick Vitale]

OK...I guess I can count them together, right? In that case I can count Hebert/Ozen together on the hoops count....Thanks again...Putting together a list of Greatest SE Texas Programs of all time...Putting together one for Houston area as well....Just out of curiosity and something for the board to discuss during the summer months! 8)

[WOSgrad]

Here is a list of state championships (but not all appearances) that I put together for a previous thread:

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1078611" timestamp="1318211980"]
[center][b]LIST OF HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL STATE CHAMPIONS[/B][/CENTER]

[table]
[tr][td][b]School (City)[/td][td]    [/td][td][b]Titles[/td][td]    [/td][td][b]Years (Organization and Class)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Beaumont Kelly Catholic High School (Beaumont)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]5[/td][td]    [/td][td]1979 (TCIL), 1987 (TCIL) 1992 (TCIL), 1993 (TCIL)*, 1998 (TAPPS DI)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Hebert High School (Beaumont)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]3[/td][td]    [/td][td]1959 (PVIL 3A), 1966 (PVIL 4A), 1976 (UIL 3A)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Lincoln High School (Port Arthur)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]3[/td][td]    [/td][td]1949 (PVIL 2A)*, 1953 (PVIL 3A), 1955 (PVIL 3A)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Newton High School (Newton)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]3[/td][td]    [/td][td]1974 (UIL 2A), 1998 (UIL 3A, DII), 2005 (UIL 2A, DI)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Port Neches-Groves High School (Port Neches)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]3[/td][td]    [/td][td]1953 (UIL 3A), 1955 (UIL 3A), 1975 (UIL 4A)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Barbers Hill High School (Mont Belvieu)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]2[/td][td]    [/td][td]1971 (UIL 1A)*, 1976 (UIL 1A)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Burkeville High School (Burkeville)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]2[/td][td]    [/td][td]1986 (UIL 1A), 2001 (UIL 1A)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Carver High School (Baytown)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]2[/td][td]    [/td][td]1958 (PVIL 2A), 1961 (PVIL 3A)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Corrigan-Camden High School (Corrigan)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]2[/td][td]    [/td][td]1988 (UIL 2A), 2002 (UIL 2A, DI)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Groveton High School (Groveton)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]2[/td][td]    [/td][td]1989 (UIL 2A), 1990 (UIL 2A)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Port Arthur High School (Port Arthur)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]2[/td][td]    [/td][td]1929 (UIL)*, 1944 (UIL)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Wallace High School (Orange)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]2[/td][td]    [/td][td]1949 (PVIL 1A), 1954 (PVIL 2A)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]West Orange-Stark High School (West Orange)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]2[/td][td]    [/td][td]1986 (UIL 4A), 1987 (UIL 4A)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Bishop Byrne High School (Port Arthur)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]1[/td][td]    [/td][td]1952 (TCIL)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Bridge City High School (Bridge City)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]1[/td][td]    [/td][td]1966 (UIL 3A)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Dunbar High School (Livingston)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]1[/td][td]    [/td][td]1958 (PVIL 1A)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]French High School (Beaumont)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]1[/td][td]    [/td][td]1984 (UIL 5A)*[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Hull-Daisetta High School (Daisetta)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]1[/td][td]    [/td][td]1979 (UIL 1A)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Nederland High School (Nederland)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]1[/td][td]    [/td][td]1957 (UIL 3A)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Rowe High School (Jasper)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]1[/td][td]    [/td][td]1967 (PVIL 2A)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]St. Anthony's High School (Beaumont)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]1[/td][td]    [/td][td]1955 (TCIL)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]San Augustine High School (San Augustine)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]1[/td][td]    [/td][td]2003 (UIL 2A, DI)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]West Brook High School (Beaumont)[/td][td]    [/td][td][center]1[/td][td]    [/td][td]1982 (UIL 5A)[/td][/tr][/table]

*-Co-Champion
UIL - University Interscholastic League
PVIL - Prairie View Interscholastic League
TCIL - Texas Catholic Interscholastic League
TAPPS - Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools
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[Dick Vitale]

Thanks! Going to need this list as well....

[badndn]

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1230397" timestamp="1339600046"]
In that case I can count Hebert/Ozen together on the hoops count....[/quote]
No. Two entirely different schools.
PA High School and Jefferson HS are the same because PA High School just changed names, never shut down or combined schools...Also the case with PN HS and PNG HS. No merger occurred, just added the other city that had been going there all along.

[WOSgrad]

[quote name="badndn" post="1230407" timestamp="1339604018"]
[quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100519.msg1230397#msg1230397 date=1339600046]
In that case I can count Hebert/Ozen together on the hoops count....[/quote]
No. Two entirely different schools.
PA High School and Jefferson HS are the same because PA High School just changed names, never shut down or combined schools...Also the case with PN HS and PNG HS. No merger occurred, just added the other city that had been going there all along.
[/quote]

In fact, the UIL state archive now lists the teams of 1953-55 "Port Neches-Groves"