4A DCTF Rankings & Coaches Poll

[mikehoncho]

[quote name="JohnSmith" post="1237193" timestamp="1342633452"]
[quote author=Mike Latorice link=topic=100695.msg1236936#msg1236936 date=1342577145]
[quote author=bronco pride link=topic=100695.msg1236229#msg1236229 date=1342445002]
[quote author=Mike Latorice link=topic=100695.msg1236117#msg1236117 date=1342400170]
[quote author=bronco pride link=topic=100695.msg1235075#msg1235075 date=1342018946]
Dayton has a kid playing at ou now to. Itsfunny when I hear even dayton fans say how we dont have talent. Dayton has had alot of talent over the last 5 years for crying out loud we had a parade all american and a d1 qb on the same team. Also had a kid at running back same year who had the fastest 400 meter hurdle time in the nation.
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If you're referring to my posts, perhaps your reading comprehension is a little weak.  Dayton has had plenty of talent relative to MOST schools.  My argument was vs. Brenham.  Take a look at the number of players that get college football scholarships in Dayton vs Brenham and get back to me.  I was giving coach Stewart the credit that I think he deserves.
[/quote]i guess your football comprehension isnt that great. First off you use the example of daytons 3 best players going to inferior schools to texas. I told you that along with those kids dayton has a kid at ou now. The kid that went to u of houston was a parade all american and could have went to any school in the country. My argument was and still is that while brenham has had a slight edge in talent its not as much as you make it out to be. Since your a texas fan I will give you a quote from an old texas head coach "you dont want my plays you want my players".
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So because you struggle with basic math you think I struggle with football comprehension?  Ok cool.  Dayton puts out about 1-2 D1 players a year.  In 2009 Brenham had about 10 players on that roster that went on to get D1 scholarships over the next couple of seasons.  Call that a slight advantage if you choose.  My whole point of this conversation has been to give Jerry Stewart the credit he deserves for competing at an elite level.  I hate to talk about former players in a negative light,[b] but there's a reason the player at OU is still a walk on[/b].  Go back and see who offered. With regard to the kid that went to UofH, name me an elite level school that offered.  The numbers are astoundingly in favor of Brenham with regards to talent.  If you choose to ignore the facts that's up to you.  Dayton has exceeded expectations relative to the talent they had.
[/quote]This student wanted to go to the Naval Academy, his parents did not want him to.  So he waited to long to decide and had to walk on in mid july and was given a scholarship by the end of August.  with in 3-4 games he started on the kickoff return on the third row and went in as a lead blocking fullback in short yardage plays including on the goal line.
[/quote]

He's still not on scholarship at this point, he's been injured since the bowl game in Dec. and speculation is that he'll be back on the field this fall.

However, there are a lot of great things being said about him.  Both coaches and the press are high on him...I wish him the best of luck, it's not often you see a kid walk on and do that well.

[mikehoncho]

[quote name="BrenhamFan" post="1236940" timestamp="1342578143"]
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[quote author=Mike Latorice link=topic=100695.msg1236117#msg1236117 date=1342400170]
[quote author=bronco pride link=topic=100695.msg1235075#msg1235075 date=1342018946]
Dayton has a kid playing at ou now to. Itsfunny when I hear even dayton fans say how we dont have talent. Dayton has had alot of talent over the last 5 years for crying out loud we had a parade all american and a d1 qb on the same team. Also had a kid at running back same year who had the fastest 400 meter hurdle time in the nation.
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If you're referring to my posts, perhaps your reading comprehension is a little weak.  Dayton has had plenty of talent relative to MOST schools.  My argument was vs. Brenham.  Take a look at the number of players that get college football scholarships in Dayton vs Brenham and get back to me.  I was giving coach Stewart the credit that I think he deserves.
[/quote]i guess your football comprehension isnt that great. First off you use the example of daytons 3 best players going to inferior schools to texas. I told you that along with those kids dayton has a kid at ou now. The kid that went to u of houston was a parade all american and could have went to any school in the country. My argument was and still is that while brenham has had a slight edge in talent its not as much as you make it out to be. Since your a texas fan I will give you a quote from an old texas head coach "you dont want my plays you want my players".
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Texas isn't the only place we send kids.  In the last 10 years, we have sent kids to Texas, Texas A&M, Arkansas, LSU, Nebraska, SMU, TCU, Houston, Rice, Tulane among others. (those are just the D1 schools I can think of off the top of my head)
*Thats more than "slight"
[/quote]actually yes it is slight with the exception of last year dayton has put kids in 5 of those schools you just named over a 2 year span.
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I also forgot UTSA &[size=14pt][u][b] Texas State[/b][/u][/size].... We recently sent kids there too.

We put numerous kids at those schools every year.  (especially UT) Not too mention the schools that recruited our kids in the last few years, but they didn't go there. (Last year alone, we had Arkansas, Baylor, Florida, LSU, Miami (FL), Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Tennessee, Texas Tech, USC, Virginia.)

I agree that Dayton has a great team, but your argument doesn't make any sense....
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we're THRILLED @ Tx State to have both Bellard and Jeter-Gilmon!

[mikehoncho]

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1236229" timestamp="1342445002"]
"you dont want my plays you want my players".
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In the case of coach stewart over his 15 year tenure, this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard and is not at all applicable here...you DEFINITELY want his plays, and his testicular fortitude...Stewart has always coached his teams up, even more recently (w/ the exception of the State Championship run, and a handful of other seasons)

he's always done more with less, pound for pound, than any other team in Texas

[dustoff03]

has DCTF rankings ever held up through the season? just asking, i'm not that familiar with this magazine. i know......

[liltex]

Lately they've been right on the money pic-in LT and that's about it 8)

[dustoff03]

yeah, LT has been a no brainer for a while.

[robanadana]

[quote name="GoDogs27" post="1236223" timestamp="1342443696"]
[quote author=robanadana link=topic=100695.msg1235966#msg1235966 date=1342324233]
[quote author=bigdog link=topic=100695.msg1235268#msg1235268 date=1342062434]
Don't want to rain on your parade too much Robadana, but Vidor has been in the playoffs 5 times in your history.
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The past is the past. I reference Austin Lake Travis sir. My Pirates aren't anyone's cakewalk anymore and everyone in 20-4A knows it. We have a heck of a coach, the best fan base in the area and a bunch of kids who think they can and will win. That is all you need for victories.
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The best fan base in the area? You're kidding right? PN-G wins that hands down with Nederland a close second.
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Vidor's fan base is there through thick and thin; go 2 - 8 and we'll see where the puppy fans are. And our fans travel; I would like to see the comparison on home and away between us and y'all.  Before Brian English, you never had over 5 fans show up for a basketball game. Then he started recruiting from PA and whammo, packed the gym. Just sayin'.

[Bigdog]

[quote name="robanadana" post="1237405" timestamp="1342665507"]
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[quote author=robanadana link=topic=100695.msg1235966#msg1235966 date=1342324233]
[quote author=bigdog link=topic=100695.msg1235268#msg1235268 date=1342062434]
Don't want to rain on your parade too much Robadana, but Vidor has been in the playoffs 5 times in your history.
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The past is the past. I reference Austin Lake Travis sir. My Pirates aren't anyone's cakewalk anymore and everyone in 20-4A knows it. We have a heck of a coach, the best fan base in the area and a bunch of kids who think they can and will win. That is all you need for victories.
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The best fan base in the area? You're kidding right? PN-G wins that hands down with Nederland a close second.
[/quote]

Vidor's fan base is there through thick and thin; go 2 - 8 and we'll see where the puppy fans are. And our fans travel; I would like to see the comparison on home and away between us and y'all.  Before Brian English, you never had over 5 fans show up for a basketball game. Then he started recruiting from PA and whammo, packed the gym. Just sayin'.
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We have had bad seasons, but not too many in the last 19 years.  The crowds were still there even during the low times.  As far as basketball goes,  I went to games while I was still in high school and our side was packed. ( Definitely not during the good years.)  And no, you don't travel as well as either Ned or PNG, or even WOS for that matter.  We outnumber the home side just about every game with the exception of PNG, where it is about even.

[mytwocents-28]

[quote name="bigdog" post="1237834" timestamp="1342741793"]
[quote author=robanadana link=topic=100695.msg1237405#msg1237405 date=1342665507]
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[quote author=robanadana link=topic=100695.msg1235966#msg1235966 date=1342324233]
[quote author=bigdog link=topic=100695.msg1235268#msg1235268 date=1342062434]
Don't want to rain on your parade too much Robadana, but Vidor has been in the playoffs 5 times in your history.
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The past is the past. I reference Austin Lake Travis sir. My Pirates aren't anyone's cakewalk anymore and everyone in 20-4A knows it. We have a heck of a coach, the best fan base in the area and a bunch of kids who think they can and will win. That is all you need for victories.
[/quote]
The best fan base in the area? You're kidding right? PN-G wins that hands down with Nederland a close second.
[/quote]

Vidor's fan base is there through thick and thin; go 2 - 8 and we'll see where the puppy fans are. And our fans travel; I would like to see the comparison on home and away between us and y'all.  Before Brian English, you never had over 5 fans show up for a basketball game. Then he started recruiting from PA and whammo, packed the gym. Just sayin'.
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We have had bad seasons, but not too many in the last 19 years.  The crowds were still there even during the low times.  As far as basketball goes,  I went to games while I was still in high school and our side was packed. ( Definitely not during the good years.)  And no, you don't travel as well as either Ned or PNG, or even WOS for that matter.  We outnumber the home side just about every game with the exception of PNG, where it is about even.
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If i recall correctly we out numbered yall last year at your home stadium bigdog. Yes yall have a great fan base and i'm not arguing that Vidor has the best one. I'd give that to PNG but what i am arguing is that yall's numbers are so much better than ours.

[Bigdog]

Lol.  I seriously doubt it.  It didn't affect the outcome of the game anyway.

[dustoff03]

[quote name="bigdog" post="1237834" timestamp="1342741793"]
[quote author=robanadana link=topic=100695.msg1237405#msg1237405 date=1342665507]
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[quote author=robanadana link=topic=100695.msg1235966#msg1235966 date=1342324233]
[quote author=bigdog link=topic=100695.msg1235268#msg1235268 date=1342062434]
Don't want to rain on your parade too much Robadana, but Vidor has been in the playoffs 5 times in your history.
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The past is the past. I reference Austin Lake Travis sir. My Pirates aren't anyone's cakewalk anymore and everyone in 20-4A knows it. We have a heck of a coach, the best fan base in the area and a bunch of kids who think they can and will win. That is all you need for victories.
[/quote]
The best fan base in the area? You're kidding right? PN-G wins that hands down with Nederland a close second.
[/quote]

Vidor's fan base is there through thick and thin; go 2 - 8 and we'll see where the puppy fans are. And our fans travel; I would like to see the comparison on home and away between us and y'all.  Before Brian English, you never had over 5 fans show up for a basketball game. Then he started recruiting from PA and whammo, packed the gym. Just sayin'.
[/quote]

We have had bad seasons, but not too many in the last 19 years.  The crowds were still there even during the low times.  As far as basketball goes,  I went to games while I was still in high school and our side was packed. ( Definitely not during the good years.)  And no, you don't travel as well as either Ned or PNG, or even WOS for that matter.  We outnumber the home side just about every game with the exception of PNG, where it is about even.
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how can you out numbers us at our stadium when we are sold out and have many more seats on the home side?

[Bigdog]

Sad that you have to have a bigger home side so you can say that, kind of sounds like PNG.

[mytwocents-28]

[quote name="bigdog" post="1237861" timestamp="1342747431"]
Sad that you have to have a bigger home side so you can say that, kind of sounds like PNG.
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No. Whats sad is the fact that you are trying to compare your fan base to ours.  8)

[BMTSoulja1]

[quote name="robanadana" post="1237405" timestamp="1342665507"]
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[quote author=robanadana link=topic=100695.msg1235966#msg1235966 date=1342324233]
[quote author=bigdog link=topic=100695.msg1235268#msg1235268 date=1342062434]
Don't want to rain on your parade too much Robadana, but Vidor has been in the playoffs 5 times in your history.
[/quote]

The past is the past. I reference Austin Lake Travis sir. My Pirates aren't anyone's cakewalk anymore and everyone in 20-4A knows it. We have a heck of a coach, the best fan base in the area and a bunch of kids who think they can and will win. That is all you need for victories.
[/quote]
The best fan base in the area? You're kidding right? PN-G wins that hands down with Nederland a close second.
[/quote]

Vidor's fan base is there through thick and thin; go 2 - 8 and we'll see where the puppy fans are. And our fans travel; I would like to see the comparison on home and away between us and y'all.  Before Brian English, you never had over 5 fans show up for a basketball game. Then he started recruiting from PA and whammo, packed the gym. Just sayin'.
[/quote] :o :o

[Bigdog]

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1238022" timestamp="1342801911"]
[quote author=bigdog link=topic=100695.msg1237861#msg1237861 date=1342747431]
Sad that you have to have a bigger home side so you can say that, kind of sounds like PNG.
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No. Whats sad is the fact that you are trying to compare your fan base to ours.  8)
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I believe it was robadana that made the comparison first.  I am not the one with the inferiority complex.

[mytwocents-28]

Look again bigdog. He just made a statement saying that we had the best fan base in the area. You were the one argued it and brought up the png and ned fan bases.

[outanup]

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1237853" timestamp="1342746304"]
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[quote author=robanadana link=topic=100695.msg1237405#msg1237405 date=1342665507]
[quote author=GoDogs27 link=topic=100695.msg1236223#msg1236223 date=1342443696]
[quote author=robanadana link=topic=100695.msg1235966#msg1235966 date=1342324233]
[quote author=bigdog link=topic=100695.msg1235268#msg1235268 date=1342062434]
Don't want to rain on your parade too much Robadana, but Vidor has been in the playoffs 5 times in your history.
[/quote]



The past is the past. I reference Austin Lake Travis sir. My Pirates aren't anyone's cakewalk anymore and everyone in 20-4A knows it. We have a heck of a coach, the best fan base in the area and a bunch of kids who think they can and will win. That is all you need for victories.
[/quote]
The best fan base in the area? You're kidding right? PN-G wins that hands down with Nederland a close second.
[/quote]

Vidor's fan base is there through thick and thin; go 2 - 8 and we'll see where the puppy fans are. And our fans travel; I would like to see the comparison on home and away between us and y'all.  Before Brian English, you never had over 5 fans show up for a basketball game. Then he started recruiting from PA and whammo, packed the gym. Just sayin'.
[/quote]

We have had bad seasons, but not too many in the last 19 years.  The crowds were still there even during the low times.  As far as basketball goes,  I went to games while I was still in high school and our side was packed. ( Definitely not during the good years.)  And no, you don't travel as well as either Ned or PNG, or even WOS for that matter.  We outnumber the home side just about every game with the exception of PNG, where it is about even.
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If i recall correctly we out numbered yall last year at your home stadium bigdog. Yes yall have a great fan base and i'm not arguing that Vidor has the best one. I'd give that to PNG but what i am arguing is that yall's numbers are so much better than ours.
[/quote]LOL!!!! 8) ;) ;) ;)

[cooligan]

Hey Pideran, Please tell me which players Coach English recruitied from PA? Just wondering

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="85' HUSKER" post="1238186" timestamp="1342827115"]
Hey Pideran, Please tell me which players Coach English recruitied from PA? Just wondering
[/quote]smh

[cooligan]

Rather than smh don't you mean YHUYA?

[Puma42]

I can't believe that someone said the Vidor fan base is bigger and more loyal to their team. That is silly. I remember when I was in high school (05-09) and when we had home games against Vidor, the visitor side of the stadium was only about 1/4-1/2 full, and that is being generous. Vidor has a great fan base, and I believe it will continue to grow from their recent success. They just aren't on PNG or Nederland's level yet. At home or away games, more significantly away games.

[mytwocents-28]

[quote name="BigRed42" post="1238743" timestamp="1342986713"]
I can't believe that someone said the Vidor fan base is bigger and more loyal to their team. That is silly. I remember when I was in high school (05-09) and when we had home games against Vidor, the visitor side of the stadium was only about 1/4-1/2 full, and that is being generous. Vidor has a great fan base, and I believe it will continue to grow from their recent success. They just aren't on PNG or Nederland's level yet. At home or away games, more significantly away games.
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Man you must have been blind cuz i was in school about the same time (03 to 07) and we completely destroyed yall's numbers fans wise. What game were you at? JV?

[JohnSmith]

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1239119" timestamp="1343084337"]
[quote author=BigRed42 link=topic=100695.msg1238743#msg1238743 date=1342986713]
I can't believe that someone said the Vidor fan base is bigger and more loyal to their team. That is silly. I remember when I was in high school (05-09) and when we had home games against Vidor, the visitor side of the stadium was only about 1/4-1/2 full, and that is being generous. Vidor has a great fan base, and I believe it will continue to grow from their recent success. They just aren't on PNG or Nederland's level yet. At home or away games, more significantly away games.
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Man you must have been blind cuz i was in school about the same time (03 to 07) and we completely destroyed yall's numbers fans wise. What game were you at? JV?
[/quote]Everything always looks bigger when you were younger.  Just saying.  ::)

[mytwocents-28]

[quote name="JohnSmith" post="1239121" timestamp="1343084600"]
[quote author=mytwocents link=topic=100695.msg1239119#msg1239119 date=1343084337]
[quote author=BigRed42 link=topic=100695.msg1238743#msg1238743 date=1342986713]
I can't believe that someone said the Vidor fan base is bigger and more loyal to their team. That is silly. I remember when I was in high school (05-09) and when we had home games against Vidor, the visitor side of the stadium was only about 1/4-1/2 full, and that is being generous. Vidor has a great fan base, and I believe it will continue to grow from their recent success. They just aren't on PNG or Nederland's level yet. At home or away games, more significantly away games.
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Man you must have been blind cuz i was in school about the same time (03 to 07) and we completely destroyed yall's numbers fans wise. What game were you at? JV?
[/quote]Everything always looks bigger when you were younger.  Just saying.  ::)
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