20-4A Thoughts

[uandme08]

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1246077" timestamp="1345209709"]
[quote author=uandme08 link=topic=101649.msg1245831#msg1245831 date=1345151814]
[quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=101649.msg1245556#msg1245556 date=1345122429]
No doubt Lubera (6'5") kid who graduated will be missed. Size may be a issue against 1-2 teams until football is over. We then add Couron and Washington who are both 6'4" with big bodies. In addition, Kimler brings athletecism to the team. He will likely be a defensive specialist. He gave K. Smith fits last season when the two teams played in Nederland.
Last year's team started without any returning starters and only 2 players with varsity experience. Taking all of that into account, I like our chances:

1. Nederland
2. Central
3. Ozen

[b][i]Soulja-From what I've been told, Ozen only returns Jakobi Jones, D. Sams, and Alex 'Duck' Williamsms from last years team. Jones and Williams were starters while Sams moved up from JV mid year and came off the bench.[/i][/quote][/b]
We'll just have to wait and see about that......
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Sorry if I missed other players. The information I received was from a reliable source. Please add more players if there are additional returning lettermen.
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Sorry Honest Abe, I was just being my usual sarcastic self - nothing against what you said....I think the info is pretty accurate.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1246077" timestamp="1345209709"]
[quote author=uandme08 link=topic=101649.msg1245831#msg1245831 date=1345151814]
[quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=101649.msg1245556#msg1245556 date=1345122429]
No doubt Lubera (6'5") kid who graduated will be missed. Size may be a issue against 1-2 teams until football is over. We then add Couron and Washington who are both 6'4" with big bodies. In addition, Kimler brings athletecism to the team. He will likely be a defensive specialist. He gave K. Smith fits last season when the two teams played in Nederland.
Last year's team started without any returning starters and only 2 players with varsity experience. Taking all of that into account, I like our chances:

1. Nederland
2. Central
3. Ozen

[b][i]Soulja-From what I've been told, Ozen only returns Jakobi Jones, D. Sams, and Alex 'Duck' Williamsms from last years team. Jones and Williams were starters while Sams moved up from JV mid year and came off the bench.[/i][/quote][/b]
We'll just have to wait and see about that......
[/quote]
Sorry if I missed other players. The information I received was from a reliable source. Please add more players if there are additional returning lettermen.
[/quote]I don't think thats what she meant ;)

[diego cruz]

i heard that one of nederlands returning starters is considering not playing basketball because several division 1 colleges are offering him a track scholarship for the high jump?

[CThoops]

He does have a good future at high jump, no question there.. But this would be his last year ever to play basketball.. I dont think he would give up on his team and best friends after the years they went through..

He played last year and did track, and didnt get injured, so I say he should be good to go ;)

[BMTSoulja1]

Are y'all talking about Rogers?

[CThoops]

He is referring to Jared Lormier, an all-district player from the past season

[asary]

[quote name="diego cruz" post="1246336" timestamp="1345232476"]
i heard that one of nederlands returning starters is considering not playing basketball because several division 1 colleges are offering him a track scholarship for the high jump?
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Certainly something to seriously consider. D1 full ride sounds pretty sweet.

[BLUEDOVE3]

Depending on the contract, legally binding so maybe it wont make a difference - depending on what's being offered.

[Honest Abe]

I think he will still play. I heard he was a bit burned out. He attended the Duke basketball camp this summer, and I was told he played really well. Definitely a huge asset to the team, as he was the only kid to register on the dunk-o-meter last season and by far has the best MRJS on the team. Both qualities that Soulja hold close to his heart.  8)
We definitely need his athleticism on the court.

[mytwocents-28]

I'm gonna laugh and call all of yall out when Vidor runs through district and gets that DC.

[u][b]Disclaimer:[/b][/u] No I, mytwocents, is not claiming that Vidor will win DC or will even make the playoffs. Therefore saving myself from living on crow in basketball season.

[BMTSoulja1]

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1246905" timestamp="1345315320"]
I think he will still play. I heard he was a bit burned out. He attended the Duke basketball camp this summer, and I was told he played really well. Definitely a huge asset to the team, as he was the only kid to register on the dunk-o-meter last season and by far has the best MRJS on the team. Both qualities that Soulja hold close to his heart.  8)
We definitely need his athleticism on the court.
[/quote]Ok, so the dunk o meter returns....  Interesting...  I must admit.  I'm VERY interested to see the Nederland kid with the SMRJ.  8)

[Honest Abe]

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1246995" timestamp="1345324104"]
[quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=101649.msg1246905#msg1246905 date=1345315320]
I think he will still play. I heard he was a bit burned out. He attended the Duke basketball camp this summer, and I was told he played really well. Definitely a huge asset to the team, as he was the only kid to register on the dunk-o-meter last season and by far has the best MRJS on the team. Both qualities that Soulja hold close to his heart.  8)
We definitely need his athleticism on the court.
[/quote]Ok, so the dunk o meter returns....  Interesting...  I must admit.  I'm VERY interested to see the Nederland kid with the SMRJ.  8)
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Sure hope we see him this year too! He was an all-district 1st teamer last season. About 6'2" and looks a lot like Z. English. Difference is he can high jump 6'10". Very smooth release and great form.

[BunaBaller14]

LCM could challenge for the 4th playoff spot. They have a contender for newcomer of the year in Trumaine Elmore. He averaged 18 and 11 on JV. He's a 6'2 shooting guard in the Kristian Smith build.

[Honest Abe]

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1246914" timestamp="1345315981"]
[b]I'm gonna laugh and call all of yall out when Vidor runs through district and gets that DC.[/b]

[u][b]Disclaimer:[/b][/u] No I, mytwocents, is not claiming that Vidor will win DC or will even make the playoffs. Therefore saving myself from living on crow in basketball season.
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You know why I like you? Cause you're a funny guy! Since there is no clear favorite for the 4th spot, Vidor could surprise us all. If I recall, Vidor was young last year, no? In addition, it was Larry's 1st season as HC. The Pirates should be more competitive for sure. I still think it will be between Livingston and PNG, but it's truly up for grabs.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1247299" timestamp="1345388894"]
[quote author=mytwocents link=topic=101649.msg1246914#msg1246914 date=1345315981]
[b]I'm gonna laugh and call all of yall out when Vidor runs through district and gets that DC.[/b]

[u][b]Disclaimer:[/b][/u] No I, mytwocents, is not claiming that Vidor will win DC or will even make the playoffs. Therefore saving myself from living on crow in basketball season.
[/quote]
You know why I like you? Cause you're a funny guy! Since there is no clear favorite for the 4th spot, Vidor could surprise us all. If I recall, Vidor was young last year, no? In addition, it was Larry's 1st season as HC. The Pirates should be more competitive for sure. I still think it will be between Livingston and PNG, but it's truly up for grabs.
[/quote]Naw, you know whats really funny???? Nederlend gets the 4th spot  ;D

[Honest Abe]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1247317" timestamp="1345391646"]
[quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=101649.msg1247299#msg1247299 date=1345388894]
[quote author=mytwocents link=topic=101649.msg1246914#msg1246914 date=1345315981]
[b]I'm gonna laugh and call all of yall out when Vidor runs through district and gets that DC.[/b]

[u][b]Disclaimer:[/b][/u] No I, mytwocents, is not claiming that Vidor will win DC or will even make the playoffs. Therefore saving myself from living on crow in basketball season.
[/quote]
You know why I like you? Cause you're a funny guy! Since there is no clear favorite for the 4th spot, Vidor could surprise us all. If I recall, Vidor was young last year, no? In addition, it was Larry's 1st season as HC. The Pirates should be more competitive for sure. I still think it will be between Livingston and PNG, but it's truly up for grabs.
[/quote]Naw, you know whats really funny???? Nederlend gets the 4th spot  ;D
[/quote]That IS funny, bc just as Vidor will not win the DC, Nederland will NOT finish 4th. But thanks for the laugh, that's why I like you too!  8)

[BLUEDOVE3]

And Nederland would still have bragging rights finishing
4th, because of the watered down playoff system. 8)

[stevenash]

Dove- did the playoff system become watered down when they added the fourth, third, or second team?

[Honest Abe]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1247346" timestamp="1345398128"]
And Nederland would still have bragging rights finishing
4th, because of the watered down playoff system. 8)
[/quote]
??? ??? 5-10 years ago, we would have been happy finishing 4th, but expectations have clearly changed a bit. Finishing 4th this year would be a huge disappointment for the Dawgs (and it ain't gonna happen)!  8)

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1247350" timestamp="1345399914"]
Dove- did the playoff system become watered down when they added the fourth, third, or second team?
[/quote]Kinda like winning the Silver Bracket in a tourney. But you made Silver because its where all the losers go from LOSING in bracket play, and you weren't go enough to play in Platinum Bracket. Silver and third spot is still a losers bracket.

[stevenash]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1247441" timestamp="1345414815"]
[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=101649.msg1247350#msg1247350 date=1345399914]
Dove- did the playoff system become watered down when they added the fourth, third, or second team?
[/quote]Kinda like winning the Silver Bracket in a tourney. But you made Silver because its where all the losers go from LOSING in bracket play, and you weren't go enough to play in Platinum Bracket. Silver and third spot is still a losers bracket.
[/quote]

Then, the only true winners are the district champs?

[BLUEDOVE3]

Well at least you're not a consolation winner

[BEARCAT]

There seems to be a consensus that Ned., Ozen, and Central will be the top 3 teams (none in my opinion will go undefeated in dist.).  The 4th spot, and a shot at the playoffs, may not be so clear.  Other than Collins who is a great athlete who else does Livingston have?  Do they have any size coming back? Just curious.  A young LCM and an improving Vidor may have a shot at the 4th spot.  A taste of playoffs, even if short lived, gives young teams experience and confidence.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="BEARCAT" post="1250219" timestamp="1345833269"]
There seems to be a consensus that Ned., Ozen, and Central will be the top 3 teams (none in my opinion will go undefeated in dist.).  The 4th spot, and a shot at the playoffs, may not be so clear.  Other than Collins who is a great athlete who else does Livingston have?  Do they have any size coming back? Just curious.  A young LCM and an improving Vidor may have a shot at the 4th spot.  A taste of playoffs, even if short lived, gives young teams experience and confidence.
[/quote]Good point! Much like the district last year with HF& WO-S, it will be interesting to see who gets the final playoff spot. Livingston possibly could play a dual role this year. Being the dark horse and the spoiler in this district. They could get that 4th spot and at the same time apply pressure on Nederland and Central fighting for the 2nd and 3rd spots.

[Honest Abe]

One thing for sure, it is NOT easy to win in the Lion's Den. Ozen was defeated by 9 last year, but easily beat them in Beaumont.
Excluding last year, Nederland has fought tooth and nail to leave Livingston with a 'W'. I remember 2011 when the Dawgs went undefeated in district, their toughest game was AT Livingston. We only won by 1 or 2, then beat them at home by 15+. Same happened in 2009 & 2010. With that said, I think it gives them the slight advantage at the 4th spot. But I agree Bearcat, the final spot is wide open.