Razor Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name="hitman009" post="1260777" timestamp="1346810325"][quote author=bigdog link=topic=102439.msg1260330#msg1260330 date=1346782987][quote author=hitman009 link=topic=102439.msg1260288#msg1260288 date=1346780481]I think this game will be closer than everyone thinks... Both teams like to hang on to the ball and control the clock. Ned is good, but I dont think they are what everyone thinks, they were not contested last week. they played a Crosby team that was not ready: new coachs, new style, new line. The Off were not ready for the stunts that the Ned D line gave them and the qb seemed flustered. When they get some experience Crosby will come around. I dont think Ned Off is that good. Crosby's D did not play bad, Ned really had one really good drive. the rest of the points was when the Off had really good starting positions, (27, 42). that is why Ned went up so quick. Ned did not score the second half when their starting field pos was on their side of the field. I dont see Nederland putting up alot of points... if GCM can keep starting points on their side of the field...IMOGCM - 21Ned -14 [/quote]Well, they were on Crosby's 7 at the end of the game , and chose not to punch it in. Also went for a couple of 4th downs to burn clock rather than punt it away. They went pretty conservative after in the second half after being up 21-0 at half time.[/quote]really?? they only went for 1- 4th down and were stopped, the rest were quick punts. to say they were not trying to score the whole second half is crazy. they were only up 14 in the third, and any team with athletes can score quick. and I am sure your coaches knew that. Yes ran the ball more the 2nd half, to hold on to the ball and run the clock, but still threw. (8 plays in the 3rd, 3 of 8 were passes.) but that is Nederlands game. they might of put up another at the end of the game, but no need to. by the way the game ended on the 12 not the 7. I just don't think Nederland can score at will. I think they need good starting positions. I dont think they will put up a bunch of points.... JMO... Everyone on this site talks about the D. not the O. and for good reason.. D will win them games..I think this game comes to field position. GCM has a great back, and have been in the same O for a while. they control the ball. just like nederland.... I dont see this game being a blow out like everyone predicts... I see this game being very close[/quote]It was not 14-0 in the 3rd of the Crosby game...Nederland scored on each of their first 3 possessions and it was 21-0 early in the 2nd quarter...this game was ever in doubt and never close
jake94 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 I will say Nederland wins 17-13. I remember the GCM QB from last season being a good runner and had some speed. They have a couple of good backs as well. I think Big Ned will get the W, but I doubt it will be a blowout. I hope it is a blowout though!
dawgnut Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name="hitman009" post="1260780" timestamp="1346810555"][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=102439.msg1260363#msg1260363 date=1346786008]I could have missed something but i don't think i saw a defensive stunt all night. Just straight up rush the QB. How many other teams had 8 sackes by their DE's last week?[/quote]they did not have 8 sacks... they had 6 as a team, 2 were stunts, and the DE did not get all of them..[/quote]All I know is what they list in the paper, Koby had 10 tackles - two for loses and 3 sacks. De Shawn was listed as 5 sacks.But even if you are correct, tell me how many other teams had 6 (as you say) sacks on week zero!
Guest UHCoog14 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name="dawgnut" post="1260823" timestamp="1346814183"][quote author=hitman009 link=topic=102439.msg1260780#msg1260780 date=1346810555][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=102439.msg1260363#msg1260363 date=1346786008]I could have missed something but i don't think i saw a defensive stunt all night. Just straight up rush the QB. How many other teams had 8 sackes by their DE's last week?[/quote]they did not have 8 sacks... they had 6 as a team, 2 were stunts, and the DE did not get all of them..[/quote]All I know is what they list in the paper, Koby had 10 tackles - two for loses and 3 sacks. De Shawn was listed as 5 sacks.But even if you are correct, tell me how many other teams had 6 (as you say) sacks on week zero![/quote]Only one team played Crosby, so I'd say none.
thedogs1987 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name="GCMPats" post="1260892" timestamp="1346845945"][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=102439.msg1260823#msg1260823 date=1346814183][quote author=hitman009 link=topic=102439.msg1260780#msg1260780 date=1346810555][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=102439.msg1260363#msg1260363 date=1346786008]I could have missed something but i don't think i saw a defensive stunt all night. Just straight up rush the QB. How many other teams had 8 sackes by their DE's last week?[/quote]they did not have 8 sacks... they had 6 as a team, 2 were stunts, and the DE did not get all of them..[/quote]All I know is what they list in the paper, Koby had 10 tackles - two for loses and 3 sacks. De Shawn was listed as 5 sacks.But even if you are correct, tell me how many other teams had 6 (as you say) sacks on week zero![/quote]Only one team played Crosby, so I'd say none.[/quote]You're right....all we heard about Crosby was twins left, twin right, twins up the middle, twins this, twins that.....after the game only one team was seeing double and it wasn't Nederland.I'd say that if I lined on the side with Washington or Couron, I'd be running for my life!!!! I don't even have to mention Malveaux or Pryor because who'd be so dumb as to run against those guys. I see trouble for any offense facing these guys.Every week is a test and these guys are passing with flying colors.
thedogs1987 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name="dawgnut" post="1260696" timestamp="1346805845"]I'm confused, are the Dog's playing GCM or Dayton this week.[/quote]Yes, we are always playing Dayton in fb and BH in baseball. It seems like that's all they talk about. These guys LIVE for their chance to Play Nederland. I really don't what the fascination is with us, really, I kinda wonder is it that dry in the Baytown/Houston area that you have to go finding a worthy opponent in SE Texas.Note: We already have our rival in PNG and many other worthy opponents to play here in SE TEXAS, we don't have to go searching for a team like they do.We have PNG, Vidor, Ozen, Central, LCM and those guys always are ready to play! I kinda feel sorry for Dayton and BH, it must be lonely on their side of the street.
Guest UHCoog14 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name="thedogs1987" post="1260939" timestamp="1346850897"][quote author=GCMPats link=topic=102439.msg1260892#msg1260892 date=1346845945][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=102439.msg1260823#msg1260823 date=1346814183][quote author=hitman009 link=topic=102439.msg1260780#msg1260780 date=1346810555][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=102439.msg1260363#msg1260363 date=1346786008]I could have missed something but i don't think i saw a defensive stunt all night. Just straight up rush the QB. How many other teams had 8 sackes by their DE's last week?[/quote]they did not have 8 sacks... they had 6 as a team, 2 were stunts, and the DE did not get all of them..[/quote]All I know is what they list in the paper, Koby had 10 tackles - two for loses and 3 sacks. De Shawn was listed as 5 sacks.But even if you are correct, tell me how many other teams had 6 (as you say) sacks on week zero![/quote]Only one team played Crosby, so I'd say none.[/quote]You're right....all we heard about Crosby was twins left, twin right, twins up the middle, twins this, twins that.....after the game only one team was seeing double and it wasn't Nederland.I'd say that if I lined on the side with Washington or Couron, I'd be running for my life!!!! I don't even have to mention Malveaux or Pryor because who'd be so dumb as to run against those guys. I see trouble for any offense facing these guys.Every week is a test and these guys are passing with flying colors.[/quote]Earl Campbell twins would not be successful with Crosby's o-line.
Razor Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 That didn't seem to be the general opinion going into last Friday night....heck one poster had Crosby hanging 48 on Nederland
bronco pride Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name="thedogs1987" post="1260945" timestamp="1346851293"][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=102439.msg1260696#msg1260696 date=1346805845]I'm confused, are the Dog's playing GCM or Dayton this week.[/quote]Yes, we are always playing Dayton in fb and BH in baseball. It seems like that's all they talk about. These guys LIVE for their chance to Play Nederland. I really don't what the fascination is with us, really, I kinda wonder is it that dry in the Baytown/Houston area that you have to go finding a worthy opponent in SE Texas.Note: We already have our rival in PNG and many other worthy opponents to play here in SE TEXAS, we don't have to go searching for a team like they do.We have PNG, Vidor, Ozen, Central, LCM and those guys always are ready to play! I kinda feel sorry for Dayton and BH, it must be lonely on their side of the street.[/quote]i dont think dayton considers ned a rivalry. Just pokin fun at your fans. When ned left dayton the world was coming to an end. Now ned beats a below average crosby team and their the best defense in the state.
bronco pride Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name="Razor" post="1260954" timestamp="1346852916"]That didn't seem to be the general opinion going into last Friday night....heck one poster had Crosby hanging 48 on Nederland[/quote]not me. I saw crosby scrimmage the week before yall played them. I think if you would read my previous post I picked ned to win.
robanadana Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name="bronco pride" post="1260961" timestamp="1346853370"][quote author=Razor link=topic=102439.msg1260954#msg1260954 date=1346852916]That didn't seem to be the general opinion going into last Friday night....heck one poster had Crosby hanging 48 on Nederland[/quote]not me. I saw crosby scrimmage the week before yall played them. I think if you would read my previous post I picked ned to win.[/quote]IMO, people put a lot weight into how good the Walter twins are but forget how much Crosby lost last year to graduation and that they have a new coach. Two junior football players don't equal a good football team.
BMTSoulja1 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name="robanadana" post="1260965" timestamp="1346853620"][quote author=bronco pride link=topic=102439.msg1260961#msg1260961 date=1346853370][quote author=Razor link=topic=102439.msg1260954#msg1260954 date=1346852916]That didn't seem to be the general opinion going into last Friday night....heck one poster had Crosby hanging 48 on Nederland[/quote]not me. I saw crosby scrimmage the week before yall played them. I think if you would read my previous post I picked ned to win.[/quote]IMO, people put a lot weight into how good the Walter twins are but forget how much Crosby lost last year to graduation and that they have a new coach. Two junior football players don't equal a good football team.[/quote]Great post!
Guest UHCoog14 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name="robanadana" post="1260965" timestamp="1346853620"][quote author=bronco pride link=topic=102439.msg1260961#msg1260961 date=1346853370][quote author=Razor link=topic=102439.msg1260954#msg1260954 date=1346852916]That didn't seem to be the general opinion going into last Friday night....heck one poster had Crosby hanging 48 on Nederland[/quote]not me. I saw crosby scrimmage the week before yall played them. I think if you would read my previous post I picked ned to win.[/quote]IMO, people put a lot weight into how good the Walter twins are but forget how much Crosby lost last year to graduation and that they have a new coach. Two junior football players don't equal a good football team.[/quote]After meeting those two young men outside of athletics (UIL Accounting event) it's hard to root against them. First class STUDENT athletes.
hitman009 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name="panamamyers" post="1260797" timestamp="1346812303"]I saw two sacks in the first half. Were there six in the second half?I saw a lot of good stops in the backfield on running plays.[/quote]4 sacks in first half, 1 in 3rd, 1 in 4th
hitman009 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name="Razor" post="1260800" timestamp="1346812598"][quote author=hitman009 link=topic=102439.msg1260777#msg1260777 date=1346810325][quote author=bigdog link=topic=102439.msg1260330#msg1260330 date=1346782987][quote author=hitman009 link=topic=102439.msg1260288#msg1260288 date=1346780481]I think this game will be closer than everyone thinks... Both teams like to hang on to the ball and control the clock. Ned is good, but I dont think they are what everyone thinks, they were not contested last week. they played a Crosby team that was not ready: new coachs, new style, new line. The Off were not ready for the stunts that the Ned D line gave them and the qb seemed flustered. When they get some experience Crosby will come around. I dont think Ned Off is that good. Crosby's D did not play bad, Ned really had one really good drive. the rest of the points was when the Off had really good starting positions, (27, 42). that is why Ned went up so quick. Ned did not score the second half when their starting field pos was on their side of the field. I dont see Nederland putting up alot of points... if GCM can keep starting points on their side of the field...IMOGCM - 21Ned -14 [/quote]Well, they were on Crosby's 7 at the end of the game , and chose not to punch it in. Also went for a couple of 4th downs to burn clock rather than punt it away. They went pretty conservative after in the second half after being up 21-0 at half time.[/quote]really?? they only went for 1- 4th down and were stopped, the rest were quick punts. to say they were not trying to score the whole second half is crazy. they were only up 14 in the third, and any team with athletes can score quick. and I am sure your coaches knew that. Yes ran the ball more the 2nd half, to hold on to the ball and run the clock, but still threw. (8 plays in the 3rd, 3 of 8 were passes.) but that is Nederlands game. they might of put up another at the end of the game, but no need to. by the way the game ended on the 12 not the 7. I just don't think Nederland can score at will. I think they need good starting positions. I dont think they will put up a bunch of points.... JMO... Everyone on this site talks about the D. not the O. and for good reason.. D will win them games..I think this game comes to field position. GCM has a great back, and have been in the same O for a while. they control the ball. just like nederland.... I dont see this game being a blow out like everyone predicts... I see this game being very close[/quote]It was not 14-0 in the 3rd of the Crosby game...Nederland scored on each of their first 3 possessions and it was 21-0 early in the 2nd quarter...this game was ever in doubt and never close[/quote]read before posting... I said they were down by 14, not the score was 14-0... but they can score quick, on scoring drive had passes of 14, 19 and 20 yd td pass... in less than 3 min.
thedogs1987 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name="bronco pride" post="1260957" timestamp="1346853113"][quote author=thedogs1987 link=topic=102439.msg1260945#msg1260945 date=1346851293][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=102439.msg1260696#msg1260696 date=1346805845]I'm confused, are the Dog's playing GCM or Dayton this week.[/quote]Yes, we are always playing Dayton in fb and BH in baseball. It seems like that's all they talk about. These guys LIVE for their chance to Play Nederland. I really don't what the fascination is with us, really, I kinda wonder is it that dry in the Baytown/Houston area that you have to go finding a worthy opponent in SE Texas.Note: We already have our rival in PNG and many other worthy opponents to play here in SE TEXAS, we don't have to go searching for a team like they do.We have PNG, Vidor, Ozen, Central, LCM and those guys always are ready to play! I kinda feel sorry for Dayton and BH, it must be lonely on their side of the street.[/quote]i dont think dayton considers ned a rivalry. Just pokin fun at your fans. When ned left dayton the world was coming to an end. Now ned beats a below average crosby team and their the best defense in the state.[/quote]Broncopride.....the fact that you are posting on any thread about Nederland says everything. Case in point.I don't consider Dayton a rival, threat, powerhouse, anything really. It's just a town off of I-10 that I never exit off for, and that would go as well for your rival a few miles away. FYI .... We do play GCM this week. Go Dogs!
liltex Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 That's just fine w/us how you feel.You've had your hurrahs but not in a long time vs Dayton.And w/recent scrimm I wouldn't put much faith in the underclassmen the next 2 yrs either ;D
James Mosley Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name="bronco pride" post="1260957" timestamp="1346853113"][quote author=thedogs1987 link=topic=102439.msg1260945#msg1260945 date=1346851293][quote author=dawgnut link=topic=102439.msg1260696#msg1260696 date=1346805845]I'm confused, are the Dog's playing GCM or Dayton this week.[/quote]Yes, we are always playing Dayton in fb and BH in baseball. It seems like that's all they talk about. These guys LIVE for their chance to Play Nederland. I really don't what the fascination is with us, really, I kinda wonder is it that dry in the Baytown/Houston area that you have to go finding a worthy opponent in SE Texas.Note: We already have our rival in PNG and many other worthy opponents to play here in SE TEXAS, we don't have to go searching for a team like they do.We have PNG, Vidor, Ozen, Central, LCM and those guys always are ready to play! I kinda feel sorry for Dayton and BH, it must be lonely on their side of the street.[/quote]i dont think dayton considers ned a rivalry. Just pokin fun at your fans. When ned left dayton the world was coming to an end. Now ned beats a below average crosby team and their the best defense in the state.[/quote]The world coming to an end was not so for those who understand Nederland football, a scrimmage game, "come on man", really. I will say this about Nederlands front 4 on defense, it would be hard to find 4 players in 4A football that make up a defensive front like the four at Nederland. Also, the linebackers are very sound and go get the ball well. Secondary is still a question mark. With that I'd say Nederland has one of the better defenses in 4A football. All Nederland has to do it put a few points on the board and they will win. Few is all it will take...This defense is really fun to watch!
Indianforever Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 From watching the video I have to say crosbys o-line made nederlands defense look really good...probably better than what they really are...jmho
JohnSmith Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 :[quote name="liltex" post="1261037" timestamp="1346861276"]That's just fine w/us how you feel.You've had your hurrahs but not in a long time vs Dayton.And w/recent scrimm I wouldn't put much faith in the underclassmen the next 2 yrs either ;D[/quote] :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D
James Mosley Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name="indianforever" post="1261043" timestamp="1346861893"]From watching the video I have to say crosbys o-line made nederlands defense look really good...probably better than what they really are...jmho[/quote]If I were pulling for PNG this year that is how I would have looked at the video too. Shame what reality will bring once it hits....Enjoy the video, watching it live is really painful!!! lol
Guest UHCoog14 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name="James Mosley" post="1261053" timestamp="1346862371"][quote author=indianforever link=topic=102439.msg1261043#msg1261043 date=1346861893]From watching the video I have to say crosbys o-line made nederlands defense look really good...probably better than what they really are...jmho[/quote]If I were pulling for PNG this year that is how I would have looked at the video too. Shame what reality will bring once it hits....Enjoy the video, watching it live is really painful!!! lol[/quote]So is having to read about it over and over and over and over on SETXSports.
James Mosley Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 Kinda like Nederlands defense stuffing the run, over and over and over....Sorry, couldn't resist. I'm done on this one for a while.
Puma42 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 Back to the topic- I have the Dogs over GCM, can't wait!!
thedogs1987 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name="GCMPats" post="1261055" timestamp="1346862433"][quote author=James Mosley link=topic=102439.msg1261053#msg1261053 date=1346862371][quote author=indianforever link=topic=102439.msg1261043#msg1261043 date=1346861893]From watching the video I have to say crosbys o-line made nederlands defense look really good...probably better than what they really are...jmho[/quote]If I were pulling for PNG this year that is how I would have looked at the video too. Shame what reality will bring once it hits....Enjoy the video, watching it live is really painful!!! lol[/quote]So is having to read about it over and over and over and over on SETXSports.[/quote]Don't worry, firsthand information will be provided on Friday around 7 p.m.Come to Bulldog Stadium and you'll see how we Adjust and Overcome.
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