i would like someone to look into this

[Guest Air Bisquit]

Jasper has to be the toughest place to win, it seems you are 7 points behind before the game even starts.

The positive is that they have the best Turkey legs ;D

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="First Down" post="1275675" timestamp="1348025937"]
Jasper has to be the toughest place to win, it seems you are 7 points behind before the game even starts.

[b]The positive is that they have the best Turkey legs [/b] ;D
[/quote]Yes!!!!  :D

[raid07]

Any place Lumberton is playing.

[Sleepy1]

[quote name="raid07" post="1275701" timestamp="1348028685"]
Any place Lumberton is playing.
[/quote]

This made me laugh!!! Thanks ;D

[PN-G bamatex]

Maybe it's just because it's MCM, but Nederland has always been a hard place for PN-G to play. Outside of that, probably Vidor, which also holds the record for the hardest stadium to get in and out of. We've played them for their homecoming several times and I swear 105 in Vidor is a parking lot everywhere from 1442 to the Jasper County line before and after that game. They really come out of the woodwork for homecoming (not surprising because they put on an awesome show). My senior year, our bus convoy took an hour and fifteen minutes to get from the interstate off-ramp to the stadium, and that was with a police escort calling traffic to the side of the road. We weren't in the stands until about the second quarter.

One of the hardest places to play from the perspective of someone in the stands is probably Livingston. Long drive, small stands, overly excited announcer, lots of mosquitoes and the concessions and bathrooms are on the other side of the field, which means you have to walk on the uneven gravel track to get there. It really sucks in the rain. Nice people though.

[MrUmp1]

When I think about this question I look at it as what team always gives you a tough game at their house. Over the years PNG because of large crowds and the band. But I think that Silsbee benefits from their home more than anybody. They are a touchdown better at home than on the road.

[NDNation]

[quote name="PN-G bamakid" post="1275714" timestamp="1348030199"]
Maybe it's just because it's MCM, but Nederland has always been a hard place for PN-G to play. Outside of that, probably Vidor, which also holds the record for the hardest stadium to get in and out of. We've played them for their homecoming several times and I swear 105 in Vidor is a parking lot everywhere from 1442 to the Jasper County line before and after that game. They really come out of the woodwork for homecoming (not surprising because they put on an awesome show). My senior year, our bus convoy took an hour and fifteen minutes to get from the interstate off-ramp to the stadium, and that was with a police escort calling traffic to the side of the road. We weren't in the stands until about the second quarter.

One of the hardest places to play from the perspective of someone in the stands is probably Livingston. Long drive, small stands, overly excited announcer, lots of mosquitoes and the concessions and bathrooms are on the other side of the field, which means you have to walk on the uneven gravel track to get there. It really sucks in the rain. Nice people though.
[/quote]

I remember that...at Vidor...kept wondering where the band was. :D

[Eagle11]

I remember going to Galveston Ball back when they had good teams (70's). It was bad for the opposing team when Ball won, God forbid if you won.

[QueenPirate]

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1275457" timestamp="1348006754"]
Honestly since i haven't ever had to try and win against the pirates at the boneyard i would have to say png stadium. For some reason that stadium just gives us bad luck.
[/quote]

I would have to agree with that!!  The Reservation is always a hard place to get a win at.  I think that little Indian puts a voodoo spell on the field when he dances across it before the game and during halftime.

[UTgroova]

It is true about Galveston Ball. I remember the stories about that when Central was 5A (yes long time ago). But nowadays I'd say either PNG or Vidor. But you haven't seen it all until you see kids barking at you in Nederland walking to and from the visitor's side. LOL!

[PN-G bamatex]

[quote name="PirateGirl4ever" post="1275884" timestamp="1348067106"]
[quote author=mytwocents link=topic=103326.msg1275457#msg1275457 date=1348006754]
Honestly since i haven't ever had to try and win against the pirates at the boneyard i would have to say png stadium. For some reason that stadium just gives us bad luck.
[/quote]

I would have to agree with that!!  The Reservation is always a hard place to get a win at.  I think that little Indian puts a voodoo spell on the field when he dances across it before the game and during halftime.
[/quote]

There's a reason our seasons don't go well when we do something to the stadium. The first time the stadium was renovated in the early '80s, we suffered a decade-long playoff drought. Then when we replaced the old stadium in 2008, we went 3-6 and didn't win a single game in the new stadium in its first season of operation.

Did I mention we replaced our artificial turf field over the summer?

Also, coaching changes typically have the opposite effect for some reason. See the early seasons of Lew Ford, Doug Ethridge, Danny Malone, Matt Burnett and Brandon Faircloth.

[CowboysNIndians]

Gotta go with Livingston or Jasper for travel and stadium conditions. 
Vidor's teams are almost as tough as getting out of their parking scheme. Also remember their Junior High field had more crawfish holes than yard markers, but that's a different story.
Texas City - not the best area after dark.   
WOS and Nederland because they always came to play and the crowds are great.

[Txdragon]

I looked at some stats for the following program on Max preps website (these are only from 2004 to present) and here is strickly numbers:

West Orange-Stark  33-4    .892
Newton                32-4-1  .865
Dayton                  32-8    .800
Nederland              26-11    .703
Coldspring              24-14    .632
Port Neches-Groves 24-16    .600
PAM                      22-10    .688
West Brook            22-10    .688
Vidor                    21-15    .583
Jasper                  21-19    .525
Silsbee                  20-14    .588
Central                  18-20    .474

[bh89-2]

I see your point about Vidor, but we won there on a regular basis, usually by a lot.  Dayton is hard because the stands suck. 

For BH I would say any place where they put playoffs on the ticket, or Crosby. 

[mypooh]

[quote name="Eagle11" post="1275050" timestamp="1347980111"]
Back in their heyday.......TJ in Memorial stadium was torture. The kids in the endzone bleachers throwing crap.....lol
[/quote]

Along with a game of throw up tackle.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Central's home record sucks, sheesh it dont matter where they play. Guess Soulja was right  ;) :D

[skipper]

wow shut my mouth ,newton and wo-s only 4 teams have won there since 2004  now i would haft to say  newton and wo-s hands down

[mypooh]

[quote name="Txdragon" post="1276132" timestamp="1348082122"]
I looked at some stats for the following program on Max preps website (these are only from 2004 to present) and here is strickly numbers:

West Orange-Stark  33-4    .892
Newton                32-4-1  .865
Nederland              26-11    .703
Coldspring              24-14    .632
Port Neches-Groves 24-16    .600
PAM                      22-10    .688
West Brook            22-10    .688
Vidor                    21-15    .583
Jasper                  21-19    .525
Silsbee                  20-14    .588
Central                  18-20    .474
[/quote]I guess the refs haven't been dropping those flags at the PNG home games like in the past. LOL

[Txdragon]

Just for the Mustang fans. These are the home losses since 2004 according to MaxPreps:

2004 Jasper                  25-23
2007 Bay City                15-12
2010 Kirbyville                28-14 (First game after Reggie was lost)
2011 Friendswood          32-31 (In overtime if memory serves me)

Combined average defeat is by 5 points. Note: No district losses at home in this time span, as Jasper was not a district game.

[skipper]

thank you TXdragon you did a outstanding job

[Txdragon]

[quote name="skipper" post="1276236" timestamp="1348090866"]
thank you TXdragon you did a outstanding job
[/quote]

I appreciate it my friend. I did do one further piece of research..Dayton Broncos since 2004 32-8 for an .800 percentage

[ChampionEagles]

I would think if you included the last twenty years that WOS and Newton would still be right there at the top. Both programs have a long history of winning.

[Guest ECBucFan]

[quote name="Txdragon" post="1276132" timestamp="1348082122"]
I looked at some stats for the following program on Max preps website (these are only from 2004 to present) and here is strickly numbers:

West Orange-Stark  33-4    .892
Newton                32-4-1  .865
Dayton                  32-8    .800
Nederland              26-11    .703
Coldspring              24-14    .632
Port Neches-Groves 24-16    .600
PAM                      22-10    .688
West Brook            22-10    .688
Vidor                    21-15    .583
Jasper                  21-19    .525
Silsbee                  20-14    .588
Central                  18-20    .474
[/quote]

Not sure of the numbers, but you oughta look up EC since 2004.

[Txdragon]

[quote name="ECBucFan" post="1276319" timestamp="1348100384"]
[quote author=Txdragon link=topic=103326.msg1276132#msg1276132 date=1348082122]
I looked at some stats for the following program on Max preps website (these are only from 2004 to present) and here is strickly numbers:

West Orange-Stark  33-4    .892
Newton                32-4-1  .865
Dayton                  32-8    .800
Nederland              26-11    .703
Coldspring              24-14    .632
Port Neches-Groves 24-16    .600
PAM                      22-10    .688
West Brook            22-10    .688
Vidor                    21-15    .583
Jasper                  21-19    .525
Silsbee                  20-14    .588
Central                  18-20    .474
[/quote]

Not sure of the numbers, but you oughta look up EC since 2004.
[/quote]

East Chambers      29-8      .784