Peewee Spreads Wk 5

[Swami]

-Favs / + Dogs

Lum R vs Ned G (-14)
Lum W vs Bmt G (+20)
Png G vs WOS W (-6)
Png P vs Ned W (-27)
Png W vs Ned B (-22)
BC R vs Ktz (+6)
BC W vs BMT B (-48)
LC vs VID (+16)
OF W vs OF O (+13)

[Bmt Pride]

Well since there were no scores ever posted on STJFL i have no clue of how half the teams did last week. But i would think these should be pretty close. Good luck to all this weekend, hopefully the games dont turn into a swimming competition!

[MoJo1972]

Kinda new to this stuff.  So what does the + and - symbols mean???

[Swami]

[quote name="MoJo1972" post="1284260" timestamp="1348853222"]
Kinda new to this stuff.  So what does the + and - symbols mean???
[/quote] + lose by / - Win by

[Guest Air Bisquit]

[quote name="Ocho" post="1283974" timestamp="1348837286"]
-Favs / + Dogs

Lum R vs Ned G (-14)
Lum W vs Bmt G (+20)
Png G vs WOS W (-6)
Png P vs Ned W (-27)
Png W vs Ned B (-22)
BC R vs Ktz (+6)
BC W vs BMT B (-48)
LC vs VID (+16)
OF W vs OF O (+13)
[/quote]

Is this the line that Vegas has set. ::)
Point spreads on Pee Wee football?    C'mon Man!!!

[elhector1]

[quote name="First Down" post="1287145" timestamp="1349016346"]
[quote author=Ocho link=topic=103796.msg1283974#msg1283974 date=1348837286]
-Favs / + Dogs

Lum R vs Ned G (-14)
Lum W vs Bmt G (+20)
Png G vs WOS W (-6)
Png P vs Ned W (-27)
Png W vs Ned B (-22)
BC R vs Ktz (+6)
BC W vs BMT B (-48)
LC vs VID (+16)
OF W vs OF O (+13)
[/quote]

Is this the line that Vegas has set. ::)
Point spreads on Pee Wee football?    C'mon Man!!!
[/quote]

If all of us that read this board were well balanced adults, capable of loving our kids without any of it relating to ball, I could see this as "tongue in cheek", and even fun.  I see this though, as something way serious, and not "for fun"...I can see some crazy daddy or momma, though, taking these numbers way too seriously, and abusing their kid over it.  No, the author of the spreads didn't beat the kid, but can it be a contributing factor?  Just look at the mentality of some in Tustin, CA...

[Guest Air Bisquit]

[quote name="elhector1" post="1287167" timestamp="1349017470"]
[quote author=First Down link=topic=103796.msg1287145#msg1287145 date=1349016346]
[quote author=Ocho link=topic=103796.msg1283974#msg1283974 date=1348837286]
-Favs / + Dogs

Lum R vs Ned G (-14)
Lum W vs Bmt G (+20)
Png G vs WOS W (-6)
Png P vs Ned W (-27)
Png W vs Ned B (-22)
BC R vs Ktz (+6)
BC W vs BMT B (-48)
LC vs VID (+16)
OF W vs OF O (+13)
[/quote]

Is this the line that Vegas has set. ::)
Point spreads on Pee Wee football?    C'mon Man!!!
[/quote]

If all of us that read this board were well balanced adults, capable of loving our kids without any of it relating to ball, I could see this as "tongue in cheek", and even fun.  I see this though, as something way serious, and not "for fun"...I can see some crazy daddy or momma, though, taking these numbers way too seriously, and abusing their kid over it.  No, the author of the spreads didn't beat the kid, but can it be a contributing factor?  Just look at the mentality of some in [b]Tustin, CA[/b]...
[/quote]

Sadly nothing surprises me any more :(
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/09/pee-wee-football-bounty-claims-under-investigation/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2012/09/29/pop-warner-bounties-california-football/1603007/

[SmashMouth]

[quote name="elhector1" post="1287167" timestamp="1349017470"]
[quote author=First Down link=topic=103796.msg1287145#msg1287145 date=1349016346]
[quote author=Ocho link=topic=103796.msg1283974#msg1283974 date=1348837286]
-Favs / + Dogs

Lum R vs Ned G (-14)
Lum W vs Bmt G (+20)
Png G vs WOS W (-6)
Png P vs Ned W (-27)
Png W vs Ned B (-22)
BC R vs Ktz (+6)
BC W vs BMT B (-48)
LC vs VID (+16)
OF W vs OF O (+13)
[/quote]

Is this the line that Vegas has set. ::)
Point spreads on Pee Wee football?    C'mon Man!!!
[/quote]

If all of us that read this board were well balanced adults, capable of loving our kids without any of it relating to ball, I could see this as "tongue in cheek", and even fun.  I see this though, as something way serious, and not "for fun"...I can see some crazy daddy or momma, though, taking these numbers way too seriously, and abusing their kid over it.  No, the author of the spreads didn't beat the kid, but can it be a contributing factor?  Just look at the mentality of some in Tustin, CA...
[/quote]

When the game is over, my son and I break down the film together and evaluate his performance. If he doesn't perform to his abilities, he is punished. What's wrong with that? Shouldn't he be accountable for his performance???

[Bmt Pride]

[quote name="SmashMouth" post="1289489" timestamp="1349269973"]
[quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1287167#msg1287167 date=1349017470]
[quote author=First Down link=topic=103796.msg1287145#msg1287145 date=1349016346]
[quote author=Ocho link=topic=103796.msg1283974#msg1283974 date=1348837286]
-Favs / + Dogs

Lum R vs Ned G (-14)
Lum W vs Bmt G (+20)
Png G vs WOS W (-6)
Png P vs Ned W (-27)
Png W vs Ned B (-22)
BC R vs Ktz (+6)
BC W vs BMT B (-48)
LC vs VID (+16)
OF W vs OF O (+13)
[/quote]

Is this the line that Vegas has set. ::)
Point spreads on Pee Wee football?    C'mon Man!!!
[/quote]

If all of us that read this board were well balanced adults, capable of loving our kids without any of it relating to ball, I could see this as "tongue in cheek", and even fun.  I see this though, as something way serious, and not "for fun"...I can see some crazy daddy or momma, though, taking these numbers way too seriously, and abusing their kid over it.  No, the author of the spreads didn't beat the kid, but can it be a contributing factor?  Just look at the mentality of some in Tustin, CA...
[/quote]

When the game is over, my son and I break down the film together and evaluate his performance. If he doesn't perform to his abilities, he is punished. What's wrong with that? Shouldn't he be accountable for his performance???
[/quote]

i ground my kid from school if he doesnt perform well. lmao

[thetragichippy]

[quote name="SmashMouth" post="1289489" timestamp="1349269973"]
[quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1287167#msg1287167 date=1349017470]
[quote author=First Down link=topic=103796.msg1287145#msg1287145 date=1349016346]
[quote author=Ocho link=topic=103796.msg1283974#msg1283974 date=1348837286]
-Favs / + Dogs

Lum R vs Ned G (-14)
Lum W vs Bmt G (+20)
Png G vs WOS W (-6)
Png P vs Ned W (-27)
Png W vs Ned B (-22)
BC R vs Ktz (+6)
BC W vs BMT B (-48)
LC vs VID (+16)
OF W vs OF O (+13)
[/quote]

Is this the line that Vegas has set. ::)
Point spreads on Pee Wee football?    C'mon Man!!!
[/quote]

If all of us that read this board were well balanced adults, capable of loving our kids without any of it relating to ball, I could see this as "tongue in cheek", and even fun.  I see this though, as something way serious, and not "for fun"...I can see some crazy daddy or momma, though, taking these numbers way too seriously, and abusing their kid over it.  No, the author of the spreads didn't beat the kid, but can it be a contributing factor?  Just look at the mentality of some in Tustin, CA...
[/quote]

When the game is over, my son and I break down the film together and evaluate his performance. If he doesn't perform to his abilities, he is punished. What's wrong with that? Shouldn't he be accountable for his performance???
[/quote]

joking?

If not......

It's a game.  I usually agree with your post but not this one.

We also watch the film and look at his individual performance. We point out his good plays and discuss what he could of done better. The only punishment he would EVER get would be losing his starting position.......or hard agility drills on Mondays practice......

[SmashMouth]

[quote name="thetragichippy" post="1289504" timestamp="1349270820"]
[quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=103796.msg1289489#msg1289489 date=1349269973]
[quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1287167#msg1287167 date=1349017470]
[quote author=First Down link=topic=103796.msg1287145#msg1287145 date=1349016346]
[quote author=Ocho link=topic=103796.msg1283974#msg1283974 date=1348837286]
-Favs / + Dogs

Lum R vs Ned G (-14)
Lum W vs Bmt G (+20)
Png G vs WOS W (-6)
Png P vs Ned W (-27)
Png W vs Ned B (-22)
BC R vs Ktz (+6)
BC W vs BMT B (-48)
LC vs VID (+16)
OF W vs OF O (+13)
[/quote]

Is this the line that Vegas has set. ::)
Point spreads on Pee Wee football?    C'mon Man!!!
[/quote]

If all of us that read this board were well balanced adults, capable of loving our kids without any of it relating to ball, I could see this as "tongue in cheek", and even fun.  I see this though, as something way serious, and not "for fun"...I can see some crazy daddy or momma, though, taking these numbers way too seriously, and abusing their kid over it.  No, the author of the spreads didn't beat the kid, but can it be a contributing factor?  Just look at the mentality of some in Tustin, CA...
[/quote]

When the game is over, my son and I break down the film together and evaluate his performance. If he doesn't perform to his abilities, he is punished. What's wrong with that? Shouldn't he be accountable for his performance???
[/quote]

joking?

If not......

It's a game.  I usually agree with your post but not this one.

We also watch the film and look at his individual performance. We point out his good plays and discuss what he could of done better. The only punishment he would EVER get would be losing his starting position.......or hard agility drills on Mondays practice......
[/quote]

Of course, I was just joking. I was pointing out how ridiculous elhector's comments about the social  harms of point spreads on a meaningless social board sound by posting an equally ridiculous comment about punishing my son for a poor performance.  In reality, win or lose, I hug him and kiss him square on the lips (I'm not a pedophile either, elhector) and I tell him how proud of him I am. We may or may not watch the film together, and I may tell him if I thought he played to his potential, but I never degrade or demean him because of a football game.

I have been known to slap him around or touch a hot iron to the bottom of his feet for a bad practice though... ;D

[elhector1]

I think holding your kid accountable is part of parenting...you hold him accountable for his performance here and in the classroom...nothing wrong with that...

Do you hold him accountable, though, if he does everything as he is supposed to, and then the team still loses big?  Or because someone thinks they are "dogs"?...Sadly, smash, there are some out there that do...having nothing to do with performance, and instead bust their kids on perception...

[SmashMouth]

[quote name="elhector1" post="1289524" timestamp="1349271967"]
I think holding your kid accountable is part of parenting...you hold him accountable for his performance here and in the classroom...nothing wrong with that...

Do you hold him accountable, though, if he does everything as he is supposed to, and then the team still loses big?  Or because someone thinks they are "dogs"?...Sadly, smash, [b]there are some out there that do[/b]...having nothing to do with performance, and instead bust their kids on perception...
[/quote]

You may OR may not be correct in your [b]assumption[/b]...however, that will go on (if it is even the case) whether or not silly point spreads are projected.

Why don't you just advocate getting rid of keeping score in Pee Wee age ball altogether?

[elhector1]

[quote name="SmashMouth" post="1289528" timestamp="1349272201"]
[quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1289524#msg1289524 date=1349271967]
I think holding your kid accountable is part of parenting...you hold him accountable for his performance here and in the classroom...nothing wrong with that...

Do you hold him accountable, though, if he does everything as he is supposed to, and then the team still loses big?  Or because someone thinks they are "dogs"?...Sadly, smash, [b]there are some out there that do[/b]...having nothing to do with performance, and instead bust their kids on perception...
[/quote]

You may OR may not be correct in your [b]assumption[/b]...however, that will go on (if it is even the case) whether or not silly point spreads are projected.

Why don't you just advocate getting rid of keeping score in Pee Wee age ball altogether?
[/quote]

Winning and losing is part of growing up...scores are part of that...

Dogging a team before the game, though...that's different.  Having worked with kids, they know when they are being dogged.  As adults, we deal with insults all day long, and dish right back.  How does a kid that sees this though, (and you know they will) insult someone like Ocho back, since he is an adult?  On the field for sure, but how does that play here? 

Maybe an "Ocho gets dogged" thread when he is way wrong?

[SmashMouth]

[quote name="elhector1" post="1289569" timestamp="1349274668"]
[quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=103796.msg1289528#msg1289528 date=1349272201]
[quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1289524#msg1289524 date=1349271967]
I think holding your kid accountable is part of parenting...you hold him accountable for his performance here and in the classroom...nothing wrong with that...

Do you hold him accountable, though, if he does everything as he is supposed to, and then the team still loses big?  Or because someone thinks they are "dogs"?...Sadly, smash, [b]there are some out there that do[/b]...having nothing to do with performance, and instead bust their kids on perception...
[/quote]

You may OR may not be correct in your [b]assumption[/b]...however, that will go on (if it is even the case) whether or not silly point spreads are projected.

Why don't you just advocate getting rid of keeping score in Pee Wee age ball altogether?
[/quote]

Winning and losing is part of growing up...scores are part of that...

Dogging a team before the game, though...that's different.  Having worked with kids, they know when they are being dogged.  As adults, we deal with insults all day long, and dish right back.  How does a kid that sees this though, (and you know they will) insult someone like Ocho back, since he is an adult?  On the field for sure, but how does that play here? 

Maybe an "Ocho gets dogged" thread when he is way wrong?
[/quote]

Do you wear panties?

[thetragichippy]

[quote name="SmashMouth" post="1289523" timestamp="1349271879"]
[quote author=thetragichippy link=topic=103796.msg1289504#msg1289504 date=1349270820]
[quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=103796.msg1289489#msg1289489 date=1349269973]
[quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1287167#msg1287167 date=1349017470]
[quote author=First Down link=topic=103796.msg1287145#msg1287145 date=1349016346]
[quote author=Ocho link=topic=103796.msg1283974#msg1283974 date=1348837286]
-Favs / + Dogs

Lum R vs Ned G (-14)
Lum W vs Bmt G (+20)
Png G vs WOS W (-6)
Png P vs Ned W (-27)
Png W vs Ned B (-22)
BC R vs Ktz (+6)
BC W vs BMT B (-48)
LC vs VID (+16)
OF W vs OF O (+13)
[/quote]

Is this the line that Vegas has set. ::)
Point spreads on Pee Wee football?    C'mon Man!!!
[/quote]

If all of us that read this board were well balanced adults, capable of loving our kids without any of it relating to ball, I could see this as "tongue in cheek", and even fun.  I see this though, as something way serious, and not "for fun"...I can see some crazy daddy or momma, though, taking these numbers way too seriously, and abusing their kid over it.  No, the author of the spreads didn't beat the kid, but can it be a contributing factor?  Just look at the mentality of some in Tustin, CA...
[/quote]

When the game is over, my son and I break down the film together and evaluate his performance. If he doesn't perform to his abilities, he is punished. What's wrong with that? Shouldn't he be accountable for his performance???
[/quote]

joking?

If not......

It's a game.  I usually agree with your post but not this one.

We also watch the film and look at his individual performance. We point out his good plays and discuss what he could of done better. The only punishment he would EVER get would be losing his starting position.......or hard agility drills on Mondays practice......
[/quote]

Of course, I was just joking. I was pointing out how ridiculous elhector's comments about the social  harms of point spreads on a meaningless social board sound by posting an equally ridiculous comment about punishing my son for a poor performance.  In reality, win or lose, I hug him and kiss him square on the lips (I'm not a pedophile either, elhector) and I tell him how proud of him I am. We may or may not watch the film together, and I may tell him if I thought he played to his potential, but I never degrade or demean him because of a football game.

I have been known to slap him around or touch a hot iron to the bottom of his feet for a bad practice though... ;D
[/quote]

I guess I didn't have my coffee this morning.....

Bottom line....Its all in fun.......

I think elhector1's point is the minority....I think 99.9% of the parents love their kids and would not hurt them over a game of football.

[elhector1]

[quote name="SmashMouth" post="1289586" timestamp="1349275696"]
[quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1289569#msg1289569 date=1349274668]
[quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=103796.msg1289528#msg1289528 date=1349272201]
[quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1289524#msg1289524 date=1349271967]
I think holding your kid accountable is part of parenting...you hold him accountable for his performance here and in the classroom...nothing wrong with that...

Do you hold him accountable, though, if he does everything as he is supposed to, and then the team still loses big?  Or because someone thinks they are "dogs"?...Sadly, smash, [b]there are some out there that do[/b]...having nothing to do with performance, and instead bust their kids on perception...
[/quote]

You may OR may not be correct in your [b]assumption[/b]...however, that will go on (if it is even the case) whether or not silly point spreads are projected.

Why don't you just advocate getting rid of keeping score in Pee Wee age ball altogether?
[/quote]

Winning and losing is part of growing up...scores are part of that...

Dogging a team before the game, though...that's different.  Having worked with kids, they know when they are being dogged.  As adults, we deal with insults all day long, and dish right back.  How does a kid that sees this though, (and you know they will) insult someone like Ocho back, since he is an adult?  On the field for sure, but how does that play here? 

Maybe an "Ocho gets dogged" thread when he is way wrong?
[/quote]

Do you wear panties?
[/quote]

Nope...adult "Underoos" with pictures of a young Pamela Anderson on them...quite comfortable, really...

[thetragichippy]

[quote name="elhector1" post="1289649" timestamp="1349280297"]
[quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=103796.msg1289586#msg1289586 date=1349275696]
[quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1289569#msg1289569 date=1349274668]
[quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=103796.msg1289528#msg1289528 date=1349272201]
[quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1289524#msg1289524 date=1349271967]
I think holding your kid accountable is part of parenting...you hold him accountable for his performance here and in the classroom...nothing wrong with that...

Do you hold him accountable, though, if he does everything as he is supposed to, and then the team still loses big?  Or because someone thinks they are "dogs"?...Sadly, smash, [b]there are some out there that do[/b]...having nothing to do with performance, and instead bust their kids on perception...
[/quote]

You may OR may not be correct in your [b]assumption[/b]...however, that will go on (if it is even the case) whether or not silly point spreads are projected.

Why don't you just advocate getting rid of keeping score in Pee Wee age ball altogether?
[/quote]

Winning and losing is part of growing up...scores are part of that...

Dogging a team before the game, though...that's different.  Having worked with kids, they know when they are being dogged.  As adults, we deal with insults all day long, and dish right back.  How does a kid that sees this though, (and you know they will) insult someone like Ocho back, since he is an adult?  On the field for sure, but how does that play here? 

Maybe an "Ocho gets dogged" thread when he is way wrong?
[/quote]

Do you wear panties?
[/quote]

Nope...adult "Underoos" with pictures of a young Pamela Anderson on them...quite comfortable, really...
[/quote]

;D :o

[Guest tigersvoice]

[quote name="SmashMouth" post="1289586" timestamp="1349275696"]
[quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1289569#msg1289569 date=1349274668]
[quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=103796.msg1289528#msg1289528 date=1349272201]
[quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1289524#msg1289524 date=1349271967]
I think holding your kid accountable is part of parenting...you hold him accountable for his performance here and in the classroom...nothing wrong with that...

Do you hold him accountable, though, if he does everything as he is supposed to, and then the team still loses big?  Or because someone thinks they are "dogs"?...Sadly, smash, [b]there are some out there that do[/b]...having nothing to do with performance, and instead bust their kids on perception...
[/quote]

You may OR may not be correct in your [b]assumption[/b]...however, that will go on (if it is even the case) whether or not silly point spreads are projected.

Why don't you just advocate getting rid of keeping score in Pee Wee age ball altogether?
[/quote]

Winning and losing is part of growing up...scores are part of that...

Dogging a team before the game, though...that's different.  Having worked with kids, they know when they are being dogged.  As adults, we deal with insults all day long, and dish right back.  How does a kid that sees this though, (and you know they will) insult someone like Ocho back, since he is an adult?  On the field for sure, but how does that play here? 

Maybe an "Ocho gets dogged" thread when he is way wrong?
[/quote]

Do you wear panties?
[/quote]

Well, since you asked - only in the privacy of my own home.  I NEVER go out in public in them. :-X ;D ;D ;D

[elhector1]

[quote name="Tigersvoice" post="1289660" timestamp="1349281486"]
[quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=103796.msg1289586#msg1289586 date=1349275696]
[quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1289569#msg1289569 date=1349274668]
[quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=103796.msg1289528#msg1289528 date=1349272201]
[quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1289524#msg1289524 date=1349271967]
I think holding your kid accountable is part of parenting...you hold him accountable for his performance here and in the classroom...nothing wrong with that...

Do you hold him accountable, though, if he does everything as he is supposed to, and then the team still loses big?  Or because someone thinks they are "dogs"?...Sadly, smash, [b]there are some out there that do[/b]...having nothing to do with performance, and instead bust their kids on perception...
[/quote]

You may OR may not be correct in your [b]assumption[/b]...however, that will go on (if it is even the case) whether or not silly point spreads are projected.

Why don't you just advocate getting rid of keeping score in Pee Wee age ball altogether?
[/quote]

Winning and losing is part of growing up...scores are part of that...

Dogging a team before the game, though...that's different.  Having worked with kids, they know when they are being dogged.  As adults, we deal with insults all day long, and dish right back.  How does a kid that sees this though, (and you know they will) insult someone like Ocho back, since he is an adult?  On the field for sure, but how does that play here? 

Maybe an "Ocho gets dogged" thread when he is way wrong?
[/quote]

Do you wear panties?
[/quote]

Well, since you asked - only in the privacy of my own home.  I NEVER go out in public in them. :-X ;D ;D ;D
[/quote]

+1...lol...

[Gucci]

I personally think it is great that the coaches, parents and fans take pride in not only their team but pay attention to other teams and their progress. Stjfl coaches/parents teach our kids a competitive sport where scores are kept and they have standings, playoffs then a Badd @$$ Super Bowl!!. It's all about the kids and learning this great sport and achieving goals, building confidence, and showing them if they work hard no matter if they are the biggest  fastest or most talented player and not one player wins or loses a game by themselves. Far as all the talk regarding stats, point spreads and rankings, have fun with this, its meaninglessness!! You think your kids know if they're ranked or if they're the favorite or underdog this week. If they do, then blame your coach and Not.OCHO..lol

[forthelove]

[quote name="Gucci" post="1289783" timestamp="1349287455"]
I personally think it is great that the coaches, parents and fans take pride in not only their team but pay attention to other teams and their progress. Stjfl coaches/parents teach our kids a competitive sport where scores are kept and they have standings, playoffs then a Badd @$$ Super Bowl!!. It's all about the kids and learning this great sport and achieving goals, building confidence, and showing them if they work hard no matter if they are the biggest  fastest or most talented player and not one player wins or loses a game by themselves. Far as all the talk regarding stats, point spreads and rankings, have fun with this, its meaninglessness!! You think your kids know if they're ranked or if they're the favorite or underdog this week. If they do, then blame your coach and Not.OCHO..lol
[/quote]
I agree! Good post Gucci!